I was just looking at the map while working on my Canthan guardian title and I noticed there is like..no green at all. So my question is, how the heck do they feed everybody, there are no farms!
The Luxons I guess could eat turtles and scuttlefish and such, I suppose the Kurzicks might live off mushrooms and fungal wallows, but how do you feed everybody who lives in Kaineng? It's like..a city the size of half a continent, theres no way you could import enough food for everybody and there's nowhere in Cantha to grow it, It doesn't really make sense.
How the heck does Cantha survive?
Sticks and Stones
Xenomortis
Notice the map doesn't reveal much south of the Jade Sea or the Echovald.
Malla13
Individual villages outside of Kaineng seem to support themselves (rice fields on Shing Jea). Xenomortis has a good point - we don't see every part of Cantha. There's also a pretty good-sized island just south of the Monastery that I could see having a potentially large fruit or grains crop, and we have no idea what is up in the mountainous areas.
Plus there's always trade. I'm sure material exports would net them lots and lots of bushels of grains.
Also, from my impressions of Kaineng I would say that they kind of fail at feeding everyone. It seemed like that entire city was one big overcrowded slum. XD
Plus there's always trade. I'm sure material exports would net them lots and lots of bushels of grains.
Also, from my impressions of Kaineng I would say that they kind of fail at feeding everyone. It seemed like that entire city was one big overcrowded slum. XD
Celestina
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Individual villages outside of Kaineng seem to support themselves (rice fields on Shing Jea). Xenomortis has a good point - we don't see every part of Cantha. There's also a pretty good-sized island just south of the Monastery that I could see having a potentially large fruit or grains crop, and we have no idea what is up in the mountainous areas.
Plus there's always trade. I'm sure material exports would net them lots and lots of bushels of grains. Also, from my impressions of Kaineng I would say that they kind of fail at feeding everyone. It seemed like that entire city was one big overcrowded slum. XD |
Piippo
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we have no idea what is up in the mountainous areas.
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Of course you may mean the mountains north of the Jade Sea. Those could well have a far better farming climate than the southern ones.
Spiritz
Way i see it - prophs is farming and some mining which is exported , cantha imports food and some materials and exports its own materials.Also i suppose canthans eat a lot of kappa`s which are probably captured with cucumbers from prophs ( check out kappas and cucumbers on wiki and u`ll know what i mean )
Zacchius
Well there's one thing you're all missing here: there's an entire ocean full of fish right off the coast.
They also apparently eat lots of pickled vermin tongues.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Marketplace
They also apparently eat lots of pickled vermin tongues.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Marketplace
Konig Des Todes
According to the "An Empire Divided" work that came with the Factions Prima guide and is canon lore - the farms on Shing Jea provide enough food for the entire Empire of the Dragon (those on Shing Jea and in Kaineng City). Those in the Jade Sea probably feast off of fish and the wallows (the truffles are very much edible), while those from the Echovald Forest probably eat wallows
We also know from the same document that Cantha also imports large amounts of food.
We also know from the same document that Cantha also imports large amounts of food.
Xenomortis
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the farms on Shing Jea provide enough food for the entire Empire of the Dragon
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I'll simply assume magic.
Konig Des Todes
You must remember that the size of what we see is not to scale with the size in lore. That is, what might seem like a small farm in the game may be a 100 square acre field in lore. Mind you, everything else in the continent is most likely going to have that same scale.
But do keep in mind that I said that Cantha imports a large amount of food, they have fishers, and as Zacchius said: They eat the vermins' tongues. I'm sure they eat other things as well. Like wallow Tuffles.
But do keep in mind that I said that Cantha imports a large amount of food, they have fishers, and as Zacchius said: They eat the vermins' tongues. I'm sure they eat other things as well. Like wallow Tuffles.
Mintha Syl
"Shing Jea provides enough"...yes, no, maybe...but for sure there's a lot of people starving in Kaineng, so either there's not really food enough or poor people aren't taken into statistics.
jackinthe
Eragon Zarroc
kaineng could live off of fishing in the ocean. as for outlying areas, there is a lot of land that is uncovered by us. Shing Jea Island can farm for itself and fish too.
Lord Dagon
i always say kaineing to be a place of preety much shanty towns and starvation. Now, it might have been better before the plague mind you, but its still alot of slums.
alos, i agree i would think most of their food would be fish and maybe some crops imporated from proph/shing jea and maybe some more exotic delicacies from the jade sea/encholvald forest.
alos, i agree i would think most of their food would be fish and maybe some crops imporated from proph/shing jea and maybe some more exotic delicacies from the jade sea/encholvald forest.
wilebill
Notice where they perform the annual Harvest Ceremony. The location must be tradition.
Terrible Surgeon
Overpopulation and disease is what factions is all about...or did you miss that point? It is like china currently if they had no imports/exports.
Lishy
That makes factions' story suddenly sound deep. I wish they could have expanded upon those literary ideas ^
Konig Des Todes
They actually rather did... should one actually read the dialogue of the quests (both primary and secondary) they're constantly referring to the slums, waste, and poor conditions of Kaineng City that are caused by the incompetent ministry (they never do really bring up over-population, but one could see that it is over populated by the structures being house built upon house and in some areas even collapsing).
Piippo
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poor conditions of Kaineng City that are caused by the incompetent ministry
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Konig Des Todes
Poverty would prevent that, I would think.
Mr. G
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Poverty would prevent that, I would think.
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Steps_Descending
Isn't there a couple of farms around Mount Qinkai? That region could also provide food to the 3 nations. Kurzick may have some sort of basic farm products since they are on soil at least, but Luxons are probably on a seafood diet.
Dusk_
Kaineng is pretty much the Guild Wars equivalent of an urbanized city in China, or Japan. It's a major port city, which implies a huge amount of import and export, not to mention that it's the home of the Xunlai, who are apparently the "world bankers".
I imagine Kaineng used to be a major port city, which rapidly exploded due to foreign interest in goods and material. The Slums and poverty is the result of massive immigration to the area, from peasants seeking to make their fortunes after hearing about the wealth of the city.
I highly doubt that it's self-sustaining, instead relying on goods from the other parts of the continent, and from other continents and nations, to provide the necessities of life.
Notice how Vabbi, the other "wealthy" nation, seems to have a more classical version of wealth and luxury, while Kaineng is very much a commercially wealthy area.
You know, though, this could have some very interesting implications for GW2, when the entire continent is cut off from the rest of the world.
I imagine Kaineng used to be a major port city, which rapidly exploded due to foreign interest in goods and material. The Slums and poverty is the result of massive immigration to the area, from peasants seeking to make their fortunes after hearing about the wealth of the city.
I highly doubt that it's self-sustaining, instead relying on goods from the other parts of the continent, and from other continents and nations, to provide the necessities of life.
Notice how Vabbi, the other "wealthy" nation, seems to have a more classical version of wealth and luxury, while Kaineng is very much a commercially wealthy area.
You know, though, this could have some very interesting implications for GW2, when the entire continent is cut off from the rest of the world.
Canthafan 28
[Quote]There's also a pretty good-sized island just south of the Monastery that I could see having a potentially large fruit or grains crop,
Actually like the arenas in ascalon and the northern shiverpeaks that island is for training Pvp
*I know this is late but it was bugging me*
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Also Kaineng really on got that big after the Jade wind
This area of Cantha's sprawling northern metropolis is also sometimes called "Old Kaineng" and is usually among the first stops of visitors to the Empire of the Dragon. Before the Jade Wind, the place now called Kaineng Center actually comprised most of Kaineng City, but the ensuing population explosion as citizens fled the affected regions led to an equal expansion of metropolitan boundaries. The central district's new, official moniker was approved by imperial decree in 1408 CC.
— In-game description of Kaineng Center
Actually like the arenas in ascalon and the northern shiverpeaks that island is for training Pvp
*I know this is late but it was bugging me*
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Also Kaineng really on got that big after the Jade wind
This area of Cantha's sprawling northern metropolis is also sometimes called "Old Kaineng" and is usually among the first stops of visitors to the Empire of the Dragon. Before the Jade Wind, the place now called Kaineng Center actually comprised most of Kaineng City, but the ensuing population explosion as citizens fled the affected regions led to an equal expansion of metropolitan boundaries. The central district's new, official moniker was approved by imperial decree in 1408 CC.
— In-game description of Kaineng Center