What matters in HoM for gw2?

20 devoted miniatures.
5 displayed heroes or pets.
5 titles or accomplishments.
5 prestige armor sets.
11 destroyer / tormented weapons.


This is confirmed requirements for the bonus in GW2, whatever that may be.

There is no indication or confirmation, from ANet, that GWAMM is needed or something like that. Although My Guild Hall Smells of Rich Mahogany changes the look of the statue.

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This is correct, right?

As much as some want GWAMM to give some bonus in GW2, there has been no indication, direct or indirect that it is needed for GW2 bonus?

i didn't think you needed a full HoM for any bonus in GW2? is that confirmed?
it would be easier on the casual players to reward a player on each individual statue in the HoM?

Source of this?

What I've heard the most is that you need a full monument, and by full I mean all available spots in each of the 5 filled and not to get EVERYTHING in the game in there, since that's actually impossible given the promotional and limited minis (unless they don't count those in, but it's still stupid givent he colossal amount of gold and time you'd need).

So that's 20 minis, 5 companions, etc.

But afaik, it's actually unknown. Everyone speculates and the above is what makes the most sense.

Obviously there's a reason why you can only display X amount of something in the monument. There's also a reason why you can display titles at a 'breakpoint', like r4, and no need for rMax.


But I'm really asking a simple question: is there any indication or a quote that GWAMM may be needed? I assume not, I guess it would be noticed already.

hopefully u get rewarded for individual titles, etc. not just full monuments, seeing as some accomplishments way harder to achieve than others. hopefully...

as for any indication that gwamm may be a measure of reward, i would think that the display of ur gwamm title when u enter the hall and the change in the statue based on ur gwamm title would be an indirect indication that you would get rewarded for it in gw2

yeah, because it would be difficult to have 30-40 statues showing all at once... Most obvious reason i can think of.

Possibly, but I think I was not accurate enough.

GWAMM = r6 of the title. I didn't mean "maxed titles" rank in itself.

Statue changes only up to r5, and AFAIK, nothing changes when you go from r5 to r6.

Yeah I was pretty sad when I got GWAMM that the monument didn't change and that there isn't even a statue for GWAMM like other max titles...

still, the fact the your hall appearance changes based on progression through your gwamm title could be an indication that you will get rewarded in gw2 based on the rank you have in gwamm. As your hall appearance changes based on your progressive accomplishments, so would the rewards that you would receive change. I wouldn't rule out gwamm not giving you rewards, it is entirely possible.

There are over 30 statues just for titles, plus the statues for campaign and elite area completion. There are 25 heroes, plus generic pet statue, plus special pet statues. IIRC, there are somewhere around 90 minis. And there are 22 different weapons possible, counting both Destroyer and Tormented.

Add all of this up, and ANet would have to come up with around 200 rewards. I just don't see it as likely that they would put this kind of effort into it, and it seems incredibly greedy to expect it. I expect only a handful of possible rewards. Perhaps one for each filled monument, and maybe a few special rewards for certain accomplishments (such as GWAMM).

I don't want to ruin any hopes or anything but does anyone have reliable sources that say anything about a specific reward from having a more complete HoM?

I don't remember reading anything saying we would get a game advantage from completing our HoM, more like we would be able to show off.

I think we will get something like a special mini or maybe an exclusive emote, not an in game advantage.

It's no effort at all for them to make exclusive titles appear under your name, or copy GW1 art assets for minis (since they are just using an evolved version of the same engine.)

- GWAMM is at present likely not tracked independently of your character. The GWAMM display counts the number of titles on your character, not number of titles enshrined in the HoM. It is also not account-wide displayable wheras all monuments are. Finally it is not itself a monument nor can you choose to enshrine it, and only monuments have explicitly been mentioned to link to GW2. It's very likely Anet is just going to want to look at people's account HoM storage and not have to dig up individual character data files when doing the transfer. At this time I would say the means for transferring GWAMM directly to GW2 does not exist, and if these were wanted, a simple GWAMM monument would be added to the

On the other hand, this could be because they want to support "rebuilding" GWAMM- I.E. in GW2 it simply counts the number/type of enshrined honor monuments, calculates your GWAMM based on that, and grants you a displayable title as appropriate.

No point in even discussing this since no one knows.

I'm still waiting for confirmation that (a) it doesn't matter what specific titles/minis/weapons etc go into each display and that (b) a display is counted as full when you've got as many things added to it as there are visible display slots rather than when it won't let you add anything else to the list.

In other words, someone who's got all PvP titles displayed compared to someone with all PvE, or someone with an island guardian and a panda displayed compared to someone with a whiptail and a jade; or someone with both destroyer and tormented weapon sets compared to someone with only one set, or someone with all 13 armours compared to someone with just the 5 that can be displayed - would both people in each of the four pairs get the same reward, or would person A in each pair get a different reward to person B?

And who should answer those questions when NO ONE knows?

i dont have a link but i remember reading somewhere that titlewise...the main 2 to get that would transfer were gwamm and ldoa... not sure about a full hom, but im sure that gets something

Just look up hall of monuments and read what it says,

Dont skip over here is a segment


Link to Guild Wars 2
This feature does not allow characters to be transferred between Guild Wars 1 and Guild Wars 2. However, it does allow character names to be reserved.
It does not support bulk transfer of armor, items, characters, or gold. However, acquiring select items in GW1 will confer benefits in GW2 via the Hall of Monuments.
Each of your GW1 characters has its own Hall of Monuments. However, the rewards will be "unlocked" account-wide and will transfer to your GW2 account, and it is possible to display all monuments attained on one account in GW1. Accomplishments dedicated in GW1's Hall of Monuments will continue to update your GW2 account even after GW2's release.

Titles like GWAMM and LDOA for example, should get rewards on their own. Actually. Every title should IMO.

For the rest. Max armor statue = 5 pts. 1 pt for every armor (max = 5). U can get 1 piece of armor with 1 point at an collector in GW2.
Same for weapons.
Heroes statues. Dunno.
Pets. If they don't have any NEW minipets in GW2. Just let everyone be able to choose GW1 pets. Customized and non tradable.

They should not, and why would they?

Besides, GWAMM and LDOA? Good part about grind is that 5 days later all the grinding is useless and in vain. GW2 is going to be fresh and no grinding achievements will matter in any way. Requirement to display some titles in HoM is very low, which proves my point.



And some of you have unrealistic and silly view of how HoM rewards will look like. You will NOT get bonus for each item and display. You will get 1 reward for each HoM section / tapestry filled. Which means that if you can display 5 prestige armor sets at one time, achieving that - 5, and no less no more - will give you some fashion bonus in GW2 - maybe a special title, maybe special emoticon, maybe special piece of clothing, maybe special minipet. You will not get +20 damage vs something boost.


Now my question was whether, besides these tapestries, there would be some bonus to r6 GWAMM itself, or not. It wasn't about what everyone's fantasy about HoM is. Since no one knows if there was any indication from ANet that GWAMM would matter in any way, thread can be closed.

If you have official info to back your claim, post it. Otherwise, as long as there is no official information on how things will transfer, everything is pretty much speculation.

The only thing that seems logical and very likely to happen is that all rewards will be purely cosmetic and won't give any gameplay advantage.

/agree with tijo. Post a link that supports your claim about the so called "requirements" to obtain all the benefits in GW2 and this thread will become interesting. Otherwise this is just another pointless "what-if" thread that has been done to death lol.

I want to know as bad as anyone how our Halls will transfer, but until Anet says something we don't know.

Also I may have missed it in the discussion, but I didn't notice anything about if those "requirements" are supposed to be solely on one character, or since the account info transfers are they only required on the account as a whole. (I don't want to get 5 elite armors for my ranger :P)

I don't need official statement that I have a brain. I can think for myself thank you, and what I posted is how it is. I also am not here to convince you into anything because I am not a missionary.


So if no one knows about r6 GWAMM, as I said that concludes the thread. Lock please.

Neither I nor any article I've seen nor any poster has ever got any information out of Anet regarding the exact nature of the HoM effects of GW2. It's one of the things they have not yet spoken about.

Given that, where exactly do you get your data? Can you cite any interviews, any articles or anything stating anything about HoM? At all?

This is, so far, only your own claim. And you have cited no evidence. So, how could we know?

Kindly remember that we also have brains, can think for ourselves and similar. If you have any actual data, post it. We'll DEVOUR it. If not, it's just your conjecture and has no more worth than for example my idea that all you'll get is a few mementoes on the walls of your personal instance in GW2.

Devour it? No, you're just going to reproduce it then. Brain, that's the thing you use when you have pieces and have to put them together. I know, it's diffiucult after too much grinding.

Well, yeah, that's kind of the point of a public forum, isn't it? I mean, by what logic would one go to a forum and then NOT talk...

I came to this thread hoping to see a compilation of information that has been gathered so far. Instead, all I see is an OP insulting everyone that disagrees with his post even if they give valid arguments. The thread should be renamed to: "What I think matters in HoM for gw2".

To respond to this specific post. If you have read any form of decent literature then you will find that a lot of texts (yes, even internet articles) have information that is not clear from the start but is still there, this is called analysing (or devouring as the josip calls it). For example, the article on the elementalist on the GW2 website reveals a lot of information on the warrior. IGN pointed out that a lot of specific skills were described and that this was possibly a hint that the next class skill video release will be on the warrior.

IGN article part 2

That being said, I'll add some useful information on the HoM in GW2 that is actually confirmed:

"If you’re currently a fan of Guild Wars, and debating whether or not to "jump ship," as it were, to Guild Wars 2, the ArenaNet boys have included a little incentive for you, via the Hall of Monuments in the latest Guild Wars expansion, Eye of the North. It goes like this: when you accomplish something great in Guild Wars–maybe you finished a particularly gnarly quest–a monument is erected in honor of the event in the Hall of Monuments. The Hall carries over into Guild Wars 2, and all the greatness you achieved will still be on display, despite the fact that the action of the game takes place several hundred years after the first GW. This is about more than just bragging rights, though. Thanks to your efforts in GW, your character in GW2–the descendant of your GW character–will have access to exclusive titles, companions, pets, armor, and weapons. None of the unlockable content will give you a huge edge over other players, but it will provide you with a nice badge of honor that brands you as an Old School Guild Wars pro and personalizes the gameplay for you just that little bit more. Personally, I think something that nods to the old fans without screwing the new ones is a great idea."

Original article by: Susan Arendt
GameLife, Interview: Guild Wars 2

So, when I analyse this article, it gives us the following:

-All the bonuses will be cosmetic
-The hall of monuments might give you acces to armorers that won't craft for you otherwise

These are of course, my assumptions. According to this article, it might not be an armorer it might as well just be a chest in which you find the armor and although it does say the HoM doesn't give you a "huge" edge over others in the article, it doesnt state it doesnt give you any at all. However, these are more likely than just random assumptions that someone comes up with through his own vision since it is based on an interview with the developers.

With these examples, surely you will be able to make decent thread on the HoM that has information supported by reliable sources.

Of course, things do change. That interview mentions exclusive "companions", but the interview was probably done before ANet decided to drop the companion system mentioned in a couple of early interviews. So we still have to take even "official" information with a grain of salt until we get the final explanation.

Any chance that this might relate to the unknown use for Medals of Honor? Perhaps they will be needed to actually transfer accomplishments from GW to GW2?

"but it will provide you with a nice badge of honor that brands you as an Old School Guild Wars pro"

The "Badge of honor" the quote refers to isn't an actual item. It's talking about your GW1 accomplishments in GW2 acting as a "veteran status" of sorts.

Keep in mind that those pieces might fight together into something coherent in different ways . Until we have any official info, your guess is as good as any (well almost any) You're not with only one with a brain or the capacity to use it, so implying people are wrong because they disagree with you is simply wrong in itself until GW2 comes out or we have solid info.

If it turns out you are right, i will gladly admit i was wrong. However, until then i will stand by my statement that your view on how the HoM will work is mere speculation.

Actually, I think it might be an actual item. A piece of armor that makes people recognise you as a gw1 veteran can be a badge of honor on it's own.

Also, I think it's just a way to conclude the paragraph, "badge of honor" here meaning the rewards they stated earlier.

EDIT:
@BrettM

Of course, people change their minds and nothing is certain at such an early stage of development as when the interview was done. The main reason why I posted that article was to get this thread going in the right direction, rather than just being a "you're wrong and I'm right" discussion.


EDIT2:

Some other thoughts on the article. It states the rewards being titles, companions, pets, armour and weapons. My guess is, originally they planned on rewarding each monument seperately, for honor you would get a title, for valor you would get a weapon, for fellowship you would get a companion etc. However, with the removal of the companion system the monument of fellowship would be without a matching reward, so the rewards might be something else completely.

I think it would be cool if you dedicate a whole set (1st year, 2nd year...) of minis that the bonus in GW2 would be a mysterious mini that would randomly select the skin of a mini of that set...

Agree or disagree?

Also does anyone think there is a chance at all of the actual Torment Weapon I dedicate to be avalible to my GW2 account?

Hey, i know last week anet was supposed to announce more specifics about what will transfer between gw1 and 2, like certain titles. anyone hear anything? i couldnt find it

All ANet said was that they would be giving us more detail "very soon". They did not give a specific date for when they would make this reveal, much less a date that was last week. You can't find it because it doesn't exist yet.

Believe me, when ArenaNet puts up that promised guide, you will not have any trouble finding it. It will be linked on every GW forum and fan site. Just keep checking their blog for the announcement, but I don't think it will happen before PAX is over and they have rested up again. Don't forget the whole company plays in the demos so that they are well populated.

None of what the OP said has been confirmed by ANET or anyone else working on GW/GW2.
Its all speculation and he has no article and/or statement from any ANET employee to prove any of it. Anyone who disagrees with his guesstimate gets flamed by him. Is there a reason this thread hasn't been closed yet?

Well, it HAS been dead for quite a while, but for some reason, it has been necroed...