Seperate res sig from skill bar?

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Since the skill is the same with every class and there's people who don't like having a slot wasted equipping it, I'm wondering how we'd feel with the idea of giving it a separate slot independent from all class builds?

Del

Del

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If they don't want to waste a slot equipping it, then they should have to do without it.

/notsigned

Fusylum

Fusylum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Michigan

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Sounds Good, if it counts as 9th Slot...

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

Not a bad idea actually. Would free some stuff up. As long it was only res sig, as in not a res skill (sunspear rebirth sig included). If it proves troublesome then it can always be undone.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Been suggested before. /notsigned for balance purposes in PvP

If you NEED this in PvE, it already exists... sorta
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rez_scroll

Lanier

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Join Date: Jan 2010

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might as well. I mean I don't really think its necessary with rez scrolls but its not like any negative effects would result from this.

/signed

Eragon Zarroc

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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if it is important enough to bring, u must sacrifice a slot for it.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
If they don't want to waste a slot equipping it, then they should have to do without it.

/notsigned
This. You need it, you drop something for it. That's the point of GW.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusylum View Post
Sounds Good, if it counts as 9th Slot...
That's exactly what I was looking at.

Now as far as the pvp unbalancing goes, exactly what way are we looking at here if all classes have their full 8 available? Btw, aren't we complaining they're all unbalanced to begin with?

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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No, just no. The 8 skill bar is a basic core design of GW and if you want one of those skills to be a res then you limit your build to 7 to carry one, otherwise do without or carry res scrolls

/unsigned

Shadowhaze

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Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

Much as it would be nice, I have to say no.

So ele's shouldn't have to spend any slots for their attunements then and such and such. (Was being sarcastic there btw. )

GW is different from a lot of other similar gametypes in that it onlys allow you to bring eight skills at a time. I rather like it's difference and is one reason I still play it, even if you have to sac a skill here and there.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

I would have liked this when the game had just come out and was still easily moldable, but the game has aged well and this would really throw the game off. Every skill in the game would have to be balanced to make true 8 skill no res builds as weak as 7 skill builds with a res signet. I dunno. I say no but what do I know for whats best for the game.

Vlad S

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Join Date: Jun 2010

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Having one extra skill in pvp would change A LOT. The Anet team will be rebalancing many things because of the fact that new builds will probably come out that work amazing to the point where it's considered unfair, etc.

So... It's a no for me.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanier View Post
might as well. I mean I don't really think its necessary with rez scrolls but its not like any negative effects would result from this.

/signed
I can think of quite a few negative effects this would have
maybe if pve only but then why bother w/ cons and shrines and UA running about

Swahnee

Swahnee

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Join Date: Jul 2008

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What about monks who don't use any res? They would be penalized because everyone would have basically 1 more skill, exept monks.

IMHO the decision to bring or not to bring the res sig (or any other res), sacrificing or not another skill is something fundamental when it comes to PvP. It's a tactical decision which people have to make, which is part of the game, the same tactical decision which stated that monks shouldn't have it, while all other players should.

ZenRgy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
That's exactly what I was looking at.

Now as far as the pvp unbalancing goes, exactly what way are we looking at here if all classes have their full 8 available? Btw, aren't we complaining they're all unbalanced to begin with?
Allowing everybody an extra skill on their bar would only make any balance problems worse.

The larger a skill bar is the less need to create a compressed and efficient bar. Just because PvP has many problems when it comes to balance, introducing a new problem doesn't help.

Franksalot

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Join Date: May 2009

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I like this idea, rez sig and ss res sig are one shot skills, their useful but once used they become useless and in areas say like fow when litle to no bosses you basically just loose a skill slot, ofc you could always bring a hard rez or rez scrolls yeah but thats not always possible you might be running say a ranger/warrior and have no access to hard rezzes and not be able to afford/no be far enough in eotn for a rez scroll.

I think it would have to be only a PvE addition and i seriously don't see it being added but none the less i like this idea.

/signed

ZenRgy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Franksalot View Post
you might be running say a ranger/warrior and have no access to hard rezzes
Then don't run eight Ranger/Warriors.

Xenomortis

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Join Date: May 2008

UK

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No. Guild Wars was designed with 8 skills in mind. Res Sig is a strong skill. Skills belong on the 8 slot skill bar.

/notsigned

Franksalot

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Join Date: May 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenRgy View Post
Then don't run eight Ranger/Warriors.
you can have just one and he be the last one alive... screaming in fear alone in the dark surrounded by corpses

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

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Join Date: Apr 2010

As others said, having only 8 slots and making a strategy out of them is the core of gw.

/not signed

Terrible Surgeon

Terrible Surgeon

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Join Date: Oct 2009

hopper

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I always thought 9 slots would have been better than 8.....NOT! That is basically what you are asking for here. 8 slots+1 for a res=9. Nah....
/nosigny

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

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A resurrection skill is as much a skill as any other is. This would give people 9 skills on their skill bar.

/notsigned

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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One of the things that make GW interesting is that you can't have your cake and eat it too. As many RPG's it forces you to make choices, compromise between different 'powers'; when you make one aspect of your character stronger, something else becomes weaker.

It's perfectly fitting within that frame that you have to choose between bringing a rez, or bringing a stronger skill bar and a greater risk of loosing a match.