Upcoming Weekend Event

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

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Hi guys, this is my question

As you all know the upcoming weekend event will feature double odds of achieving green items from bosses. Of course this concerns the green weapons but does this now also include the war in kryta greens? And I don't only mean the new weapons but more important, the new mini's!

I hope your thought can help me cause I'm not so sure.

Fusylum

Fusylum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Michigan

Reign of Judgement [RoJ]

I would imagine so but I could be wrong, considering the announcement doesn't say...
or possibly the fact that it doesn't need too

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

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Double chance of greens from BOSSES means what it says. If a green can drop from a WiK BOSS, then you have a better chance of getting it from that boss, but not from normal foes.

But don't get excited, a double chance means something like a .02% chance instead of a .01% chance. In my experience, this doubling adds up to nothing.

Narcin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/

this could be interesting..... i hope it means double minis haha

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

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Originally Posted by Darcy View Post
Double chance of greens from BOSSES means what it says. If a green can drop from a WiK BOSS, then you have a better chance of getting it from that boss, but not from normal foes.

But don't get excited, a double chance means something like a .02% chance instead of a .01% chance. In my experience, this doubling adds up to nothing.
Last double weekend I managed to get 4 greens and didn't play that much. I could be lucky ofcourse.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

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Last double weekend I managed to get 4 greens and didn't play that much. I could be lucky ofcourse.
Exactly, it all comes down to luck more than the doubling. And, GW "urban legends" notwithstanding, your luck is random.

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

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Yes the description says double chance of greens from bosses. As far as I know the new mini's are regarded green items and they, according to the wiki information, can drop from every mantle/peacekeeper. So logically it would make sense we have indeed a double drop rate of those mini's from bosses.
I do agree that the chance is still very small and because it will only be form bosses the chances of getting them don't improve that much. Unless there is some WiK boss somewhere which can be easily farmed. But I don't think there is any, maybe the one outside ToA but yeah, we will see..

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

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Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
Yes the description says double chance of greens from bosses. As far as I know the new mini's are regarded green items and they, according to the wiki information, can drop from every mantle/peacekeeper. So logically it would make sense we have indeed a double drop rate of those mini's from bosses.
I do agree that the chance is still very small and because it will only be form bosses the chances of getting them don't improve that much. Unless there is some WiK boss somewhere which can be easily farmed. But I don't think there is any, maybe the one outside ToA but yeah, we will see..
Mesmer boss just outside beetletun. Monks boss (the bounty one outside divinity reach)is easy to get to. But the WiK mobs are better setup than most of the other boss mobs. Greaves outside ToA I think you mean him is also easy to get to.
The new bosses just outside Lions arch are easy to get to. There is one in scoundrils rise.
But I have no idea if these new WiK bosses even drop greens, don't they all drop greens there?

MArcSinus

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Mesmer boss just outside beetletun. Monks boss (the bounty one outside divinity reach)is easy to get to. But the WiK mobs are better setup than most of the other boss mobs. Greaves outside ToA I think you mean him is also easy to get to.
The new bosses just outside Lions arch are easy to get to. There is one in scoundrils rise.
But I have no idea if these new WiK bosses even drop greens, don't they all drop greens there?
Yes I agree, the one outside beetletun would probably be the closest one, also the mob it is in isn't that hard after a quick pull. The fact that it's a mesmer I think isn't that great but we will see I guess

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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Are the while mantle greens dropped by the bosses? I thought they dropped from the other mantle (goons etc)

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

You're right they drop from the normal mobs.

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

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But don't they also drop from bosses? I can only see one unique item on wiki that is dropped by destor. I hope they drop from bossed too since there are lots of them now.

MArcSinus

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You're right they drop from the normal mobs.
According to the wiki, mini's drop from whitemantle/peacekeepers, as far I know a mantle/peacekeeper boss is still a mantle/peacekeeper. Not so sure about the weapons, cause The Firebrand for instance, can only be dropped from a Goon ect, unless maybe if the boss is also an ele...

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

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this could be interesting..... i hope it means double minis haha
There's only one mini I know of that is a drop (mini Enforcer). Mini Livia, Sarma, & Evennia come from Royal Gifts.

Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

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There's only one mini I know of that is a drop (mini Enforcer). Mini Livia, Sarma, & Evennia come from Royal Gifts.
theres also mini confessor dorian and mini confessor isiah.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Minia...nfessor_Dorian

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Minia...nfessor_Isaiah

^_^ exspanding horizens right there <3

also a lil off topic.. cant we get like a decent pve weekend.. the last few( and they are few.. this yr has been dommed by pvp) have been tbh preety crappy. (making worthless greens.. even more worthless!)

Raven Wing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

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I can confirm from a lot of totem farming that you dont get double green drop from non-bosses. The root behemoths are not bosses and do not drop double, and the regular mantle dropping greenies are not bosses either. Maybe the WiK bosses drop double, i cant tell

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

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Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
According to the wiki, mini's drop from whitemantle/peacekeepers, as far I know a mantle/peacekeeper boss is still a mantle/peacekeeper. Not so sure about the weapons, cause The Firebrand for instance, can only be dropped from a Goon ect, unless maybe if the boss is also an ele...
They might, I have not seen anyone report it though.

I've had two green WiK drops and they were both from normal mobs.

K. Kismet

K. Kismet

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

Italy (UTC +1 / +2 with DST)

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I can confirm the WiK green weapons drop from (White Mantle) bosses too, as I had my first The Adjudicator drop from Inquisitor Lashona. Never had a miniature drop so far neither from bosses nor normal mobs though, so no idea about those...

CronkTheImpaler

CronkTheImpaler

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

midwest

AE

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Im not sure what the % say, however last green couble drop weekend i piled up 21 totem axes just messin round.... sooo im thinkin it applies to all foes that drop "Unique" items. that would include mini's id think. I would assume they are coded the same way all other unique items are.


Cronk

Ps i love the avatar Kismet.. i laughed soo hard when i saw that.

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

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Originally Posted by K. Kismet View Post
I can confirm the WiK green weapons drop from (White Mantle) bosses too, as I had my first The Adjudicator drop from Inquisitor Lashona. Never had a miniature drop so far neither from bosses nor normal mobs though, so no idea about those...
Great, I'll take your word for it
So I guess weapons drop form the bosses too, the upcoming event should give them a double droprate

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

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theres also mini confessor dorian and mini confessor isiah.
Great, two more minis I don't have.
I haven't gotten any green drops yet, let alone minis. (I've gotten minis from gifts though.)

jray14

jray14

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

NC, USA

Ohm Mahnee Pedmay [Hoom]

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Originally Posted by Darcy View Post
Double chance of greens from BOSSES means what it says.
ANet leaves out stuff in the weekend event descriptions all the time. E.g., for SS/LB a couple weeks ago the description only mentioned shrine bounties, but you got double SS/LB for everything: vanquishing, quest rewards, Zaishen mission/bounty rewards, mission completions, etc.

Plus I wouldn't be surprised if the double green thing is hard-coded and that any new bosses added recently will be excluded. Or maybe the WiK non-bosses will be accidentally included because ANet didn't think to exclude them.

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

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Originally Posted by jray14 View Post
ANet leaves out stuff in the weekend event descriptions all the time. E.g., for SS/LB a couple weeks ago the description only mentioned shrine bounties, but you got double SS/LB for everything: vanquishing, quest rewards, Zaishen mission/bounty rewards, mission completions, etc.

Plus I wouldn't be surprised if the double green thing is hard-coded and that any new bosses added recently will be excluded. Or maybe the WiK non-bosses will be accidentally included because ANet didn't think to exclude them.
Yes that could be true, with the double Double Gold, Scrolls and XP for Vanquishing weekend event a couple of weeks ago we also got double faction rewards for vanquishing while that wasn't mentioned. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was indeed hard coded. Ah well, looks like that we all agree that they should theoretically have a higher drop chance but that it will probably not happen or that the greater chances aren't significant. Thanks for your thoughts guys.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jray14 View Post
ANet leaves out stuff in the weekend event descriptions all the time. E.g., for SS/LB a couple weeks ago the description only mentioned shrine bounties, but you got double SS/LB for everything: vanquishing, quest rewards, Zaishen mission/bounty rewards, mission completions, etc.

Plus I wouldn't be surprised if the double green thing is hard-coded and that any new bosses added recently will be excluded. Or maybe the WiK non-bosses will be accidentally included because ANet didn't think to exclude them.
I was thinking the same thing. They just push the event button, copy and paste the description, and whatever happens, happens. They've messed up the description and event start time/end countless times, so this is really just a wait-and-see scenario, though it would be nice to see a staffer pop in to confirm or deny if regular WiK mobs would be affected. Personally, I'd like to see them double drop too, since originally when the first double green event occurred, it was only bosses who dropped greens.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

I remember doing some CoF runs during one of the double green weekends and seeing abnormally high numbers of greens dropping from the endchest so I suspected even the chest drops could have been doubled... but would need much more data to determine whether that observation was a real droprate increase or just random "luck".

Hypothesis: whenever a green weapon/item appears on ANY droptable with a defined random % chance to drop this chance is doubled during the event.

This requires extensive testing to be proved.