Why is the price of an Armbrace of Truth falling so much?

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
The game is over 5 years old. That's why. Who DOESN'T have tormented shield by now?

That, and DwG pwns.
I don't. XD I'm not fond of tormented weapons. lol

Mediocore players? lol. I doubt all who are doing it are mediocore players. I bet a lot are people who have played many years and just want money/more money.

I do hope they don't nerf the skill, mainly because I enjoy using it (and no, I'm not one who uses it only in DOA). It's a fun alternative for rits now that nearly every rit is some form of a spirit spammer these days...I almost wish they'd nerf SoS. lol

But anyway, prices going down because people are killing stuff in DOA a lot again lately.

Anon-e-mouse

Anon-e-mouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

@ Home

League Of Friends [LOF]

R/Mo

Less people playing + lower demand (cos a lot of players already have Tormy's) + larger supply = lower prices..

Fog Accomplice

Fog Accomplice

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Lords of Midnight [oOo Alliance]

All I'm gonna say is this: I bought a tormented shield off an armbrace for 26 ecto. That is a ridiculous price. I've seen guild groups do DoA in a matter of 90 minutes, tops. There is no justification for that kind of price on something that can be farmed.

And frankly, it makes DoA more accessible to me. I don't have time to become a 1337 m4cr0 k1ng and pwn those NPCs for their gems. I want to play the game, ALL the game, and get what everyone else has. The game is 5 years old; why are you still acting like such selfish buggers? If you have that much ecto and money, then try a different game, because you've clearly mastered this one.

Heck, I've still only beaten UW once on a non-sin character, and I've only done a guild battle 3 times. The Deep? Never been past the first group of monsters. It's crappy to know that I won't get to play them either because there are so few dedicated people who know the maps who are on anymore. DoA looks like fun and you get cool rewards: why shouldn't I use the easiest method out there to win? Just because the US has tanks and missiles, are you saying we should stick to muskets, because "where's the fun in that?"

No. So quit crying and realize that this is a GAME a bit more, and start letting some of us lazy farts who work all day have a bit of fun.

Qaletaqa Hania

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

GMT +1

[BCG] and [EKSF]

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TBH I don't see a "problem".

Ecto is now at 7k/ea if i'm buying from a player now, before SF nerf I bought them at 4-5k/ea. Ambraces were 40-47e before sf got nerfed and now they are 24-27e.

40 * 4k = 160k
24 * 7k = 168k
40 * 4,5k = 180k
47 * 4k = 188k
27 * 7k = 189k
40 * 5k = 200k
47 * 4,5k = 211k 500g
47 * 5k = 235k
40 * 6k = 240k
47 * 6k = 282k

Now the lowest price before SF nerf was lower then the lowest price now, the highest price well was alot higher (but only stupid people bought at that price). And ow yes when you go back in time (beginning of NF) then the Ambrace prices were somewhere between 400k-1800k+/ea?

You think i'm wrong? Titan gems were 90-120k/ea and you need 15 of each gem (if you wanna be sure you'll get an Ambrace). The other gems were somewhere between 20-80k, the Stygian gems went down fast to about 2k/ea cause Rangers were able to farm them with Echo Dust trapping builds.

Yes DwG is a reason why the price is dropping but it's not yet a problem, will it become a problem? for some it will become a problem and for others it'll be a "blessing".

Just go with the flow, if you have ambraces I would say try and sell them asap cause the prices will continue to drop, if it becomes a problem then it's gonna be there for a long time, or it could even stay there cause of GW2.

Anyway if everyone starts to sell there Ambraces then the market will be flooded with them and that will result in an even bigger price drop.

But Anet might "fix" it and the prices will skyrocket again.

There are people that are gonna loose millions of pixelgold and there are people who are gonna gain millions of pixelgold cause of this. Anyway it's just a game... so wealth and power, hmmm... well it's not important aslong as you are having fun.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

People are over reacting armbraces used to be 225k and there now 182k, not much of a difference.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaletaqa Hania View Post
There are people that are gonna loose millions of pixelgold and there are people who are gonna gain millions of pixelgold cause of this. Anyway it's just a game... so wealth and power, hmmm... well it's not important aslong as you are having fun.
QTF right there people.

Ka Tet

Ka Tet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Pita Bread And Scud Missiles Ai[iiii]

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Originally Posted by ManlyMan View Post
casuals are owning you neckbeards hard.
I peed a little when i read that. Kudos.

On topic, I'm one of those people who never liked the Torment skins, so it doesn't matter to me how low they fall. Although maybe if they drop to 100k, I'll finally pick up a staff, that skin is kind of nice.
In the end though, it's just a status item, and if you need a status item that badly...

PuppyEater

PuppyEater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

I'm on the left...

Guilds? Where we're going we don't need guilds...

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaletaqa Hania View Post
Anyway it's just a game... so wealth and power, hmmm... well it's not important aslong as you are having fun.
Not to mention that if GW2 really is the shining glory that we are lead to believe, then all the ecto in the world will mean diddly squat soon enough...

Trip555

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

Destiny Dealers

The next price drop will come, when they finally tell us what we get for the Hall of Monuments (or in true GW style not get) in Guild Wars 2.

As it stands right now the HoM is scam in my mind, until proven otherwise.
It's out for 3 years and they are not telling us what we get, maybe for the better.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaletaqa Hania View Post
You think i'm wrong? Titan gems were 90-120k/ea and you need 15 of each gem (if you wanna be sure you'll get an Ambrace). The other gems were somewhere between 20-80k, the Stygian gems went down fast to about 2k/ea cause Rangers were able to farm them with Echo Dust trapping builds.
Nicely explained. Note that back in the days you needed 25 of each gem for an Armbrace

Nekodesu

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

Cause I'm farming too much.

Edit: Reason: HoM.

nologic

nologic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sweden

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Well cant say tormented feels specials like they did back in the days when DoA were new. Now its just a simple farm like UW or FoW with competely lame setup.

And yes prices will go down as everyone has mentioned people will buy eventually have everything in their hom, and tormented is just another common item.

Nekodesu

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Prices will hopefully continue to fall until Anet fixes the clipping issues with the Tormented Weapons.
Anet doesn't fix clipping issues :<

dancing gnome

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

House of Wandering Souls

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
I did a DwG run yesterday, it was ridiculously easy. We had like 3 noob DwG, one guy who didnt even speak english (and no, not everyone was r8), and we just steamrolled it. Like 1hr 40 minutes.

Im not claiming thats a good time, just for a pug, thats almost ursan speeds. In fact, in some areas it was better then ursan (such as beginning of veil).
You call 1hr and 40 minutes in NM a steam roll? Full DoA clears are done by guilds with very easy to run builds in around an hour in HM. Maybe that's a good time for a PuG but for anything to take an hour and 40 minutes in a game and be considered a good time, your game is requiring way to much of your time.

DoA was always terribly balanced, acting as a barrier to content for the majority of the player base (thus the prices of armbraces being so high for such ugly weapons). If the prices of armbraces are dropping, it means something was done right. Hopefully the Live Team will buff more classes to make DoA more accessible to players.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Anything that is farmable will always drop in value. The ease of the farm is all that effects the price.

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

It's just as easy to AP farm there in NM lol. IDK what all the whining is about. AP-->Arcane Echo-->Ebon Vanguard Sin Support--Pain Inverter-->....you get the point. Throw in some good old Necro EZ Fo' Sheezee Way and you can make the same argument. Don't hate the Skill barz, Hate the game and quit playing. I like that 3 years after the fact that people can get their Armbrace now. Where is all the hate for the Armbrace dupers? Shouldn't they be to blame as well for exploiting the game? At least the people using DwG aren't cheating. Some people that claim to be pro on here are doing an awful amount of whining in this thread.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by dancing gnome View Post
You call 1hr and 40 minutes in NM a steam roll? Full DoA clears are done by guilds with very easy to run builds in around an hour in HM. Maybe that's a good time for a PuG but for anything to take an hour and 40 minutes in a game and be considered a good time, your game is requiring way to much of your time.

DoA was always terribly balanced, acting as a barrier to content for the majority of the player base (thus the prices of armbraces being so high for such ugly weapons). If the prices of armbraces are dropping, it means something was done right. Hopefully the Live Team will buff more classes to make DoA more accessible to players.
I like you, man. In other words, I agree 100%
If they fall, let it fall. It's a good thing and means more players could afford DoA weapons, which also means they're easier to sell to the average player

Sirius Bsns

Banned

Join Date: May 2010

PonG

W/Mo

If it ain't one build, it's the next.

"Onoes, Ursan teh are hurtingz geim! Tehy has moar shiniez FoWz an Tormant3d wepanz tahn mei!! narf pl0x, kthnxbai!"
"Onoes, SF teh are hurtingz geim! Tehy has moar shiniez FoWz an Tormant3d wepanz tahn mei!! narf pl0x, kthnxbai!"
Onoes, 55/600/[insert every farm build here] teh are hurtingz geim! Tehy has moar [insert exotic weapons/armor/items here] tahn mei!! narf pl0x, kthnxbai!"

Give up, already!

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

I earned my DoA stuff, but I could care less what happens to the market. To be honest it's all hideous looking anyway, and DoA needs people to play it whether they're farming or not because the population was always really bad on the US side.

Adul

Adul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by dancing gnome View Post
DoA was always terribly balanced, acting as a barrier to content for the majority of the player base.
The words of a wise man.

It is always within a game manufacturer's best interests to keep their players busy with content, and blocking off one area of the game does not help with that. The recent buffs to certain professions allowed a lot of players to experience content and capture rewards they were not able to before.

Some of you people just need to pull your heads out of your Xunlai storage boxes, sniff some fresh air, and remember that it is a game.

jonathan23

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

Immortal Trinity

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Who did'nt see this coming? Everything drops in prices as there are few items that have retained high values left in the game and I personally like it that way. and a-net has even taken steps to make sure other items coming from the newer content that would have some value to it does not reach insanely high prices too. Just look at zaishen coins and now medals of honor. Looks like the only item worth tons of ecto nowadays are new minipets. Weird, isnt it. Items that have no effect on your gameplay are the most expensive items in the game. hehe.

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

DWG Methinks, guess whats next on the nerf list :P

ManlyMan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

imba+ua+hb+cons + [insert caster spike skill here] = [whatever]way in DoA nm , nothing changes. Cry more about DwG please.

wtb Ambraces-5e ea

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

. <---My Tears

Higurashi

Higurashi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

[Lod]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius Bsns View Post
If it ain't one build, it's the next.

"Onoes, Ursan teh are hurtingz geim! Tehy has moar shiniez FoWz an Tormant3d wepanz tahn mei!! narf pl0x, kthnxbai!"
"Onoes, SF teh are hurtingz geim! Tehy has moar shiniez FoWz an Tormant3d wepanz tahn mei!! narf pl0x, kthnxbai!"
Onoes, 55/600/[insert every farm build here] teh are hurtingz geim! Tehy has moar [insert exotic weapons/armor/items here] tahn mei!! narf pl0x, kthnxbai!"

Give up, already!
lol so true once one build is nerfed ppl just move onto the next farming build and moan

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
The game is over 5 years old. That's why. Who DOESN'T have tormented shield by now?

That, and DwG pwns.
Your blaming everything on 5 year and tormented weapons aren't 5 year old BTW and no not because there getting old but overfarmed such as weapons always get. People won't spent 30e+ for something they gain in a day with pugs. If the age was to blame then the tormented weapons price would have dropped to bottem rock long ago.

king swift

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Kamadan AD1

Zealots Of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

D/A

I think that everyone understands that DWG allows gems to be overfarmed causing the price to tank.

/Closed

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

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Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

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Quote:
Originally Posted by king swift View Post
I think that everyone understands that DWG allows gems to be overfarmed causing the price to tank.

/Closed
No offense, but if u cared to read the majority of this thread you would have seen that.....everyone seems to understand that it is NOT just dwg thats allowing gems to be overfarmed......it's the knowledge that NM DoA can be rolled using CONS with AoE/Imba/Dual Monk set-ups.

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
No offense, but if u cared to read the majority of this thread you would have seen that.....everyone seems to understand that it is NOT just dwg thats allowing gems to be overfarmed......it's the knowledge that NM DoA can be rolled using CONS with AoE/Imba/Dual Monk set-ups.
It was there before but the prices weren't dropping. It's more the huge changes in the game lately like No more VSF the SF nerf the 600/smite nerf that made DoA less attractive for farmers but with those changes and the armbrace price it was more wanted and so the farmers migrated to DoA hoping to earn some ecto's. It used to be to empty to form a normal party wich caused to longer waits while faster farms (with a change for chest drops going +100e) were getting Pugs at instant. So mostly Full DoA were done with guild or solo/trio