Solutions for Tormented weapons

Cuilan

Cuilan

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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A few possible solutions with some better than others.

1. A warning for the weapons that are known to clip.
2. Leave DWG or buff it to crush armbrace prices to the ground.
3. Add a NPC or allow the current NPC's to exchange weapons for armbraces.
4. Allow another option for attaining the weapons to make them cheap, which would make grief not quite as bad.

Or someone can actually fix the clipping. Items for gaining junk weapons shouldn't be worth more than a single ecto.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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The Tormented Focus is the only Tormented "weapon" that has a clipping issue, which is clearly documented, and as I recall, this hasn't been changed ever since its conception. Seems like you're only complaining now because you have one and you don't like it.

What makes you think that the clipping issue is going to get fixed now?

Terrible Surgeon

Terrible Surgeon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2009

hopper

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Tormented shield on assassin with ancient armor..clipping issue...u are saying it is undocumented? U want proof...we can meet up and i can show u.

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Assassin Ancient armor probably clips on everything that isn't daggers.

Edge Igneas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

Poland

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon View Post
Tormented shield on assassin with ancient armor..clipping issue...u are saying it is undocumented? U want proof...we can meet up and i can show u.
Lol what don't those assassin spikes clip with? Of course it clips with a tormented shield.

Thats.... sum.... dum... logic u kno?

Frenzy.CL

Frenzy.CL

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2010

The Internet

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1. Wiki is your friend.
2. QQ
3. ...
4. Your logic eludes me

Pony Slaystation

Pony Slaystation

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Join Date: Nov 2008

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Guilds are irrelevant. This... is...... BUILD WARS!!!

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Ok, so, you basically want high-end weapons to be easier to come by...
They're called high-end for a reason. They're not meant for everybody to have one, you're supposed to work hard to get a weapon like that.

C.H.U.C.K.S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2010

Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
A few possible solutions with some better than others.

1. A warning for the weapons that are known to clip.
2. Leave DWG or buff it to crush armbrace prices to the ground.
3. Add a NPC or allow the current NPC's to exchange weapons for armbraces.

Or someone can actually fix the clipping. Items for gaining junk weapons shouldn't be worth more than a single ecto.
1. Guild Wars Wiki, tough thing to find (try google), will show and give information on that sort of thing, try reading it.
2. DWG has crushed the prices of armbraces, you could sell for 35e a month ago and now they are around 25-28e, quit QQing.
3. You want Anet to add a NPC that trades weapons back to armbraces because you fail?

Overall, yeah, you just fail.

/notsigned.

Lord Dagon

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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wow... i had problems even reading this thread but here it goes....

1.seems really random and out of place here.. it like the choice teachers give you in the "which doesnt bleong here" type question. and im preety sure clip issues are on wiki.
2. been threads on this. take a look.. DwG is the new SF.
3.i have no idea how that would help or hurt armbrace prices or torm weps....
4.no no no... high end is for a reason . and wth are you talking about "making the grief not so bad" so b/c your armbrace prices are going down you want them to become dime a dozen.. so it makes you feel better? not sure

so preety much /notsigned for very seeable reasons and the fact it took 15mins to figure out what you even said.

jimme

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

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Don't you need a problem before you can get a solution?

code1101

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

are we sure the op isn't being sarcastic ?!

Cuilan

Cuilan

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobi Madera View Post
wow... i had problems even reading this thread but here it goes....

1.seems really random and out of place here.. it like the choice teachers give you in the "which doesnt bleong here" type question. and im preety sure clip issues are on wiki.
2. been threads on this. take a look.. DwG is the new SF.
3.i have no idea how that would help or hurt armbrace prices or torm weps....
4.no no no... high end is for a reason . and wth are you talking about "making the grief not so bad" so b/c your armbrace prices are going down you want them to become dime a dozen.. so it makes you feel better? not sure

so preety much /notsigned for very seeable reasons and the fact it took 15mins to figure out what you even said.
There are clip issues mentioned on the wiki sites, and?

lol "high end"

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.H.U.C.K.S View Post
1. Guild Wars Wiki, tough thing to find (try google), will show and give information on that sort of thing, try reading it.
2. DWG has crushed the prices of armbraces, you could sell for 35e a month ago and now they are around 25-28e, quit QQing.
3. You want Anet to add a NPC that trades weapons back to armbraces because you fail?

Overall, yeah, you just fail.

/notsigned.
Not surprising for someone from the ToA alliance. What does failing have to do with anything? Maybe you can actually give some real feedback instead of blindly boosting your ego. I'm perfectly aware of the wiki sites, but that's no excuse.

king swift

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Kamadan AD1

Zealots Of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

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Yea. I do not understand what you are trying to do.

Ghost Dog

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

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So after I spent gobs of money on my tormented collection you want them at a fraction of the price I paid.

That seems fair.

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimme View Post
Don't you need a problem before you can get a solution?
... and this ends the thread. SS is populated with lots of "i want my title faster" crew and the "i wanna fix a problem that doesnt exist" gang , thats why threads like this happen.

Cuilan

Cuilan

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae View Post
... and this ends the thread. SS is populated with lots of "i want my title faster" crew and the "i wanna fix a problem that doesnt exist" gang , thats why threads like this happen.
Care to explain?

Muwhahahahahaha Ha

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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As for this thread, I hope you're kidding. I'm not sure how long you've been around, but the destroyer weapons were also supposed to be high-end weapons, and they now sell for( feel free to correct) 15-25k. You're suggestions intend to make what should be a high-end weapon( and that's changing very quickly) into a normal skin. I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. There are few things people with cash can do with their money, and those of us who like taking pride in our work need something to spend our money on.

ps, QQ on you're clipping. If you cared about the item at all, you would have done a little research on it first. Just in case you also are after buying this, a chaos axe dyes funny, so don't spend all you cash on dyes.

Cuilan

Cuilan

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muwhahahahahaha Ha View Post
ps, QQ on you're clipping. If you cared about the item at all, you would have done a little research on it first. Just in case you also are after buying this, a chaos axe dyes funny, so don't spend all you cash on dyes.
You don't like the suggestions, yet weapons have dye previews at the very least. Oops.

Muwhahahahahaha Ha

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
You don't like the suggestions, yet weapons have dye previews at the very least. Oops.
I was kidding, talking about the fact that even though the chaos axe dyes weird, that can ALSO be found on wiki, along with the aforementioned clipping issue.

Frenzy.CL

Frenzy.CL

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2010

The Internet

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Quote:
You don't like the suggestions, yet weapons have dye previews at the very least. Oops.
Guru already has a lot of threads talking about an armor fitting room window, if that's what you were looking for. However, seeing as you appear to be on a permanent vacation to Lala Land you didn't use the search feature.

Cuilan

Cuilan

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muwhahahahahaha Ha View Post
I was kidding, talking about the fact that even though the chaos axe dyes weird, that can ALSO be found on wiki, along with the aforementioned clipping issue.
First someone would have to already know there's an issue in order to look it up.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

/not signed for cheapening the value of these weapons.

/signed for fixing the clipping issues IF it means a re-design of the focus thingie. And while they're at it, they can redesign the tuning fork...uhhh, I mean "sword," too.

Quail Stomp

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2010

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I would agree on that they should be cheaper just on the fact that most tormented skins are fugly. I got the gold to get the whole set but I would never blow that much on something I think looks bad. Throw in clipping issues with some of them and it makes them even more undesireable.

Terrible Surgeon

Terrible Surgeon

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Join Date: Oct 2009

hopper

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Igneas View Post
Lol what don't those assassin spikes clip with? Of course it clips with a tormented shield.

Thats.... sum.... dum... logic u kno?
Clipping is clipping, it's not dumb logic moron. He said that the only documented clipping issue concerning tormented weapons was with a torm focus. So take your awesome self to a doctor and have him remove the foot from your mouth fool.

Edge Igneas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

Poland

The case of clipping issues is OBVIOUS; when you have assassin armors like Vabbian and Ancient that they will clip through most items. The only documented clipping issue with a tormented weapon (on normal armor) is indeed only with the focus' irregular position.

You can't say that there are clipping issues with the tormented shields just because you have a spike fetish. Same goes with Dragon Gauntlets.

Kthxbai.

Arduin

Arduin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Dog View Post
So after I spent gobs of money on my tormented collection you want them at a fraction of the price I paid.

That seems fair.
With a difference of 3 years, that is.

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon View Post
Clipping is clipping, it's not dumb logic moron. He said that the only documented clipping issue concerning tormented weapons was with a torm focus. So take your awesome self to a doctor and have him remove the foot from your mouth fool.
Then the clipping issue is the fault of sins' goofy ass armour, not the torm weapons.

Terrible Surgeon

Terrible Surgeon

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Join Date: Oct 2009

hopper

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
Then the clipping issue is the fault of sins' goofy ass armour, not the torm weapons.
How about two sin armor sets that have clipping issues with shields. Ancient and vabbian. My fault, no it isn't. Top price armor and clipping issues with top priced shields is a joke. Fix one or the other,either the armor or the weapons.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Igneas View Post
The case of clipping issues is OBVIOUS; when you have assassin armors like Vabbian and Ancient that they will clip through most items. The only documented clipping issue with a tormented weapon (on normal armor) is indeed only with the focus' irregular position.

You can't say that there are clipping issues with the tormented shields just because you have a spike fetish. Same goes with Dragon Gauntlets.

Kthxbai.
Normal armor....so two sets of armor for assassins are not "normal?" You are joking right? As far as a spike fetish goes, never crossed my mind to call it a fetish. I am not aroused by spikes. If you are that's your deal. After all, you said fetish and spikes in the same sentence not me. I think it is funny as hell though you exclude two very normal assassin armor sets and call them abnormal to make yourself "right."

Luminarus

Luminarus

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

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Come on, for the few tormented skins that are actually nice, u can get any character to the DoA, farm for a day and have a tormented weapon. Seriously, if you call that high end, your pretty deluded. The only high end things now (realistically) are emerald blades, obsidian blades, and bone dragon staffs. Even CC's and Froggies I wouldnt consider high end. To me, high end is something that even after a solid day on a decent farm you cant afford. If you can farm in armbrace in 6-8 hrs from 3-4 DwG runs, thats not high end.

Oh and about the clipping, if you wear armor that has doubles the width of ur character expect it to clip. If you didnt know the tormented focus clips, ur a dumass.

No thanx to all of this.

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon View Post
Clipping is clipping, it's not dumb logic moron. He said that the only documented clipping issue concerning tormented weapons was with a torm focus. So take your awesome self to a doctor and have him remove the foot from your mouth fool.
With assassin armor such as vabbian, you have huge blades/spikes attached to the forearms... and then you toss a shield on there and expect it not to clip? Exactly which shields DON'T clip with such armor? And why are you so asinine as to suggest that this is somehow the fault of the tormented shield?

Yes, it really is some faulty logic.

I would suggest that you're a rude troll, but given the original post in this thread that would merely indicate that you're 'on topic'.

Del

Del

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Join Date: Sep 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
Come on, for the few tormented skins that are actually nice, u can get any character to the DoA, farm for a day and have a tormented weapon. Seriously, if you call that high end, your pretty deluded. The only high end things now (realistically) are emerald blades, obsidian blades, and bone dragon staffs. Even CC's and Froggies I wouldnt consider high end. To me, high end is something that even after a solid day on a decent farm you cant afford. If you can farm in armbrace in 6-8 hrs from 3-4 DwG runs, thats not high end.

Oh and about the clipping, if you wear armor that has doubles the width of ur character expect it to clip. If you didnt know the tormented focus clips, ur a dumass.

No thanx to all of this.
All three items you describe as high-end are farmable. IMO, the only true high-end items are oldschool caster weapons/foci and shields with good mods.

Higurashi

Higurashi

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Join Date: May 2009

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i agree they need to fix the clipping issue that the focus has and maybe redesign the sin armors to stop them clipping with some items like shields.

I Pwn Brownies

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/signed for fixing the clipping issues.
/unsigned for...everything else. OP lacks a brain, and isn't very smart. Hurr-durr-a-derpa-derp.

*Insert other such trolling here*

nologic

nologic

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Sweden

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
/not signed for cheapening the value of these weapons.

/signed for fixing the clipping issues IF it means a re-design of the focus thingie. And while they're at it, they can redesign the tuning fork...uhhh, I mean "sword," too.
They will go down in price since people are hoarding them and yeah its common as hell you see atleast one in every group that has a tormeneted weapon..

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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I'm sorry to see that this suggestion was treated so poorly and that I had to end up cleaning it up on multiple occasions. You should all know better than that.

Since the OP feels the point here has been made, I'm going to put an end to any further degrading remarks.

Closed.