There are no monthly fees with GW. GW2 will follow the same business plan. The income streams are limited to the sale of the game, and ingame store downloadable content. While it seems to have sustained GW for 5 years, the dev teams have not exactly been faced with the problem of how to spend all their funding. I'm wondering how people would feel about other sources of income... like advertising.
It would be easy enough to plonk an ad on the log in screen, but why limit it to there? How about we place the products being sold in the game? Do away with the red cape vs blue cape in PvP, make it Coke vs Pepsi - a battle of taste!
Bilboards on the mountainsides. Subtly change names: The Bill Gates of Kryta.
OK, a little over the top there, and a little hard to find enough companies with global markets that would want to advertise but it could be done. It wouldn't really suit the period, but what the hell, it's fantasy.
So, who would leave the game in disgust if this happened? Who wouldn't care? Who'd want to see it?
Product Placement
Oleg
damkel
A funny thought. But no thank you.
Riot Narita
I think in-game adverts for modern-day real-world products would ruin the GW vibe/atmosphere.
They can put whatever they like on the login screen, as they do now for their own ingame store ie. they don't require click through to get into the game, and they're easily ignored.
I'd also hate advertisers to have any kind of influence over the game content, because they "pay the bills", or they're trying to out-do their competitors product placements etc.
They can put whatever they like on the login screen, as they do now for their own ingame store ie. they don't require click through to get into the game, and they're easily ignored.
I'd also hate advertisers to have any kind of influence over the game content, because they "pay the bills", or they're trying to out-do their competitors product placements etc.
-Makai-
Unlike some game developers (*points a finger at EA and their new Sims 3 streaming ad "feature"*), Anet actually has a little thing called integrity.
Silmar Alech
Having real-world advertising while playing a medieval-style rpg disrupts playing and immersion to the point that I would cease playing immediately. Or not buy the game in the first place. No discussion.
I buy for playing the game, not for watching advertisements.
Advertisements from NPCs for ingame-goods as part of the environment ("Buy Gumpy's best Swords from Gumpy's Sword Armory" signs in a town) are a totally different thing - those would certainly be welcome as part of the atmosphere.
I buy for playing the game, not for watching advertisements.
Advertisements from NPCs for ingame-goods as part of the environment ("Buy Gumpy's best Swords from Gumpy's Sword Armory" signs in a town) are a totally different thing - those would certainly be welcome as part of the atmosphere.
Mintha Syl
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I would really be disgusted for something like the OP's suggestion.
pinkeyflower
/notsigned
Would make the game look really bad in my opinion and ruin the atmosphere.
Would make the game look really bad in my opinion and ruin the atmosphere.
Gift3d
HERP DERP LET'S DO /SIGN AND /NOTSIGN CAUSE THIS IS A SUGGESTION, AND A SUPER SERIOUS ONE AT THAT!
would it shy me away from the game, probably not. still gonna be a good game either way, but it would make for a bad atmosphere and make arenanet look like a bunch of amateurs. they wouldn't. this has been an undertaking for them since day one, and i'm sure there are many plans (and backup plans) to get the funds they require without selling out.
would it shy me away from the game, probably not. still gonna be a good game either way, but it would make for a bad atmosphere and make arenanet look like a bunch of amateurs. they wouldn't. this has been an undertaking for them since day one, and i'm sure there are many plans (and backup plans) to get the funds they require without selling out.
Jidai
Quaker
Like a lot of people, I don't watch much TV any more because of all the commercials (and most of what little I do watch is DVR'd so I can skip through the ads). And I'm getting a bit peeved at having to watch a commercial before some Youtube videos.
So, ads in GW2 would be a definite deal breaker for me. I'd rather they went more micro-transaction.
With reference to the above Korean Coke promotion - that's not a whole lot different than the mini-pets sponsored by PCGamer and other magazines. I don't mind that - as long as the in-game item doesn't have any overt advertising on it and blends into the game's style. Hell, I've got the Destroyer and Asura mini-pets. I really wouldn't want to see GW2 become some sort of pop-culture spawning ground either - no Hahna Montana or Hairy Potter mini-pets.
And, btw, if this thread is some lame attempt by ANet to "test the waters" - consider the waters to be tested .... and toxic.
So, ads in GW2 would be a definite deal breaker for me. I'd rather they went more micro-transaction.
With reference to the above Korean Coke promotion - that's not a whole lot different than the mini-pets sponsored by PCGamer and other magazines. I don't mind that - as long as the in-game item doesn't have any overt advertising on it and blends into the game's style. Hell, I've got the Destroyer and Asura mini-pets. I really wouldn't want to see GW2 become some sort of pop-culture spawning ground either - no Hahna Montana or Hairy Potter mini-pets.
And, btw, if this thread is some lame attempt by ANet to "test the waters" - consider the waters to be tested .... and toxic.
Mintha Syl
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Nerel
Deviant Angel
You have been playing for 3 hours. Please take a break and enjoy a Red Bull energy drink!
No.
No.
The Scorpion Knight
Anet should just start selling ingame money for real cash. That would eliminate every other gold farmer.
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On topic, that would seriously break the immersion unless very well done. And it wouldn't be done well enough.
But seeing somehting like a pepsi logo engraved on a wall instead of a neon sign or being done "in-character" might pass. But that'd be more of a joke than publicity.
Rocky Raccoon
It might work if it were for Acme Chastity Belts, Ace Helmet Company, etc; so I say no to modern ads.
dusanyu
i can see the occasional ad for joke products that fit into the game in a funny way (in that new script they talked about on the blog recently.
Dwanya Bubble?
Rata Sum rat traps
Dwanya Bubble?
Rata Sum rat traps
Killed u man
Lol @ Anet's integrity statement. When they completely ignored the community (aka the first 4 years) they lost pretty much all of it. When they started using micro-transitions (which on it's own aren't bad, but do stray from the "free online play" because you still have to pay for this "extra content"), they lost that tiny bit that was left.
Also, I personally really don't care, as long as it's subtle. I really wouldn't mind if you could buy "coca cola" at the merchant, and it would have the same effect as one of those sparkler bottles. (25% IMS for 10 minutes)
Doesn't hurt me, and only provides more money for Anet to pay for servers, etc.
Also, I personally really don't care, as long as it's subtle. I really wouldn't mind if you could buy "coca cola" at the merchant, and it would have the same effect as one of those sparkler bottles. (25% IMS for 10 minutes)
Doesn't hurt me, and only provides more money for Anet to pay for servers, etc.
majoho
Such a stupid thing would make me quit for sure.
I already hate many of the contemporary references in fantasy games, like the US cultural imperialism found in WoW.
I already hate many of the contemporary references in fantasy games, like the US cultural imperialism found in WoW.
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As for the billboards: No thanks.
*is drinking Coke as I type this*
Bobby2
Remember this?
Lanier
I would say yes. It certainly wouldn't change the game experience at all for me and if Anet makes more money, they can afford to hire more people to work on game and skill updates more often.
Black Metal
some people never end to amaze me with how completely destructive their suggestions are. Oleg, you may well have had the worst suggestion ever. What a way to take you out of the game -- a fantasy world of magic and steel, to see modern day product ads.
It bothers me when carebears assume Anet needs more money grabbing opportunities, but this one is pathetic, and while Anet has it's share of f-ups, as an earlier poster mentioned, they do have integrity, and I'm positive this suggestion is well beneath them.
To Oleg, Lanier, and anyone else who feels compelled to give Anet their money for nothing in return, please feel free to send them a personal check, but leave the rest of us out of it.
It bothers me when carebears assume Anet needs more money grabbing opportunities, but this one is pathetic, and while Anet has it's share of f-ups, as an earlier poster mentioned, they do have integrity, and I'm positive this suggestion is well beneath them.
To Oleg, Lanier, and anyone else who feels compelled to give Anet their money for nothing in return, please feel free to send them a personal check, but leave the rest of us out of it.
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ummmm....no
Lanier
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To Oleg, Lanier, and anyone else who feels compelled to give Anet their money for nothing in return, please feel free to send them a personal check, but leave the rest of us out of it.
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And lol at billypowergamer's pic. Great idea right there.
Black Metal
Lanier, get over it. GW is 5+ years old, GW2 is rightfully 95% of Anet's focus, and let's just ride this dying horse until the new pony is ready.
And if in-game product placement gives YOU more lol's (as you said it would), leave everyone else out of it. Man I wish this thread would disappear, nothing good can come from it.
And if in-game product placement gives YOU more lol's (as you said it would), leave everyone else out of it. Man I wish this thread would disappear, nothing good can come from it.
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Lol @ Anet's integrity statement. When they completely ignored the community (aka the first 4 years) they lost pretty much all of it. When they started using micro-transitions (which on it's own aren't bad, but do stray from the "free online play" because you still have to pay for this "extra content"), they lost that tiny bit that was left.
Also, I personally really don't care, as long as it's subtle. I really wouldn't mind if you could buy "coca cola" at the merchant, and it would have the same effect as one of those sparkler bottles. (25% IMS for 10 minutes) Doesn't hurt me, and only provides more money for Anet to pay for servers, etc. |
This would make the game look like some POS top 100 free mmo list garbage dump.
Neo Nugget
You know, ads in a game aren't always a bad thing. It really depends on the game.
A while back I played Rainbow Six Vegas 2 and spotted a movie poster for Quantum of Solace while playing in the Theater Level. That obviously fits the game and didn't "ruin" my experience at all.
Obama also had his campaign billboards in Burnout Paradise for a short while.
Of course, as others have said, such advertisements probably aren't even something Anet has considered. They would be way too obvious and would cause more uproar than when Anet charged for costumes.
A while back I played Rainbow Six Vegas 2 and spotted a movie poster for Quantum of Solace while playing in the Theater Level. That obviously fits the game and didn't "ruin" my experience at all.
Obama also had his campaign billboards in Burnout Paradise for a short while.
Of course, as others have said, such advertisements probably aren't even something Anet has considered. They would be way too obvious and would cause more uproar than when Anet charged for costumes.
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OK, a little over the top there, and a little hard to find enough companies with global markets that would want to advertise but it could be done. It wouldn't really suit the period, but what the hell, it's fantasy.
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When ArenaNet have put so much effort into creating an immersive world in Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 especially it would be very counter productive to add modern advertising into it. Running into a town to see huge posters for graphics card brands, game memorabilia and more besides just doesn't sit well in the setting they're going for. That being said there will be some advertising in Guild Wars 2 - just check out the sandwich board advertising Happy Hour at the tavern in the latest blog post. Who knows what extra perks learning the new languages will bring?
In my opinion, in game advertising for real life products rarely works well. The only example I can think of that really worked was Hellgate:London, where the walls of the underground stations were plastered in advertising related to the game and technology (the comics for example). The reason it worked there was because it was accurate for there to be advertising there (Hellgate: London had a post modern setting). You go into the real London underground and the place is covered. It would have felt wrong for there not to be posters on the walls. Didn't save the game though :P
IlikeGW
This seems like a troll thread. You've suggested everything people hate about in-game ads, Anet do.
Either you're trolling or have some fixation on giving Anet money like they're suffering and in need. Anet is fine they have hundreds of employees and are working on a highly anticipated sequel. If you want to throw money somewhere to feel good, try a developer that's still indie, or a charity.
Either you're trolling or have some fixation on giving Anet money like they're suffering and in need. Anet is fine they have hundreds of employees and are working on a highly anticipated sequel. If you want to throw money somewhere to feel good, try a developer that's still indie, or a charity.
Benderama
This isn't one of those "evil empire" companies. i remember EA was gonna try this with the sims 3, and they didn' in the end due to fan rage. this IS a bad idea, even for the login screen. doesn't matter how much money it brings in the company's reputation will be hurt.
HawkofStorms
Why is it that every person who plays an MMO is so obsessed with how much money the game makes? Why does everybody like to pretend they are an accountant when it comes to MMO games?
MMOs are the only games were people constantly complain and mutter about "well this game has 2 million subscribers but needs another 1 million to break even, therefore it is a financial failure." No other video game forum talks about sales figures like an MMO forum. I don't hear people on forums for Halo/CoD/Starcraft/Mass Effect going "well I love this game, but the company really seems to be in financial trouble."
Why stress about this? Let A.net, the people whose salaries depend on this, figure this sort of stuff out. After all, they are the only people here with actually numbers to back up any of the wild claims made about how profitable the game is. Anything we say is just speculation.
MMOs are the only games were people constantly complain and mutter about "well this game has 2 million subscribers but needs another 1 million to break even, therefore it is a financial failure." No other video game forum talks about sales figures like an MMO forum. I don't hear people on forums for Halo/CoD/Starcraft/Mass Effect going "well I love this game, but the company really seems to be in financial trouble."
Why stress about this? Let A.net, the people whose salaries depend on this, figure this sort of stuff out. After all, they are the only people here with actually numbers to back up any of the wild claims made about how profitable the game is. Anything we say is just speculation.
Black Metal
thank you hawk, that pretty much sums it up. Please can a mod close this.
-Makai-
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"Gotcha!"
"You're mine!"
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This isn't one of those "evil empire" companies. i remember EA was gonna try this with the sims 3, and they didn' in the end due to fan rage. this IS a bad idea, even for the login screen. doesn't matter how much money it brings in the company's reputation will be hurt.
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placebo overdose
I'd only want this if they treated the additions like other culture references. Like an emote(many dances see http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dance) or in non essential dialouge
Gift3d
Hey, i'm actually interested in this thread, so can we please start to pay attention, read the OP's post a few more times, and stop using the word "suggestion" cause no real suggestions were made here? It'd greatly improve my viewing experience. Thanks!
belshazaarswrath
If that's what they need to do to constantly update the game then I'm all for it. But if they have all that advertisement and the game gets updated at the same speed as GW1...they can shove it up their asses.
Rhamia Darigaz
the benefits of in-game ads for real-world products are two-fold:
1) increased revenue for ANet/NCSoft
2) drives away scrubby role players who give a shit about immersion
1) increased revenue for ANet/NCSoft
2) drives away scrubby role players who give a shit about immersion
Nerel
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the benefits of in-game ads for real-world products are two-fold:
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Arden Kindlecorpse
Oleg.
Stop trolling you naughty boy.
I hope your 'net is back in working order soon though
Stop trolling you naughty boy.
I hope your 'net is back in working order soon though