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Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

03 Jul 2010 at 21:31 - 41

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Originally Posted by Torpoon

I don't find that a viable excuse because this is a prelude to GWII, it's supposed to build hype and it doesn't make sense not to have more resources devoted to it inorder to make it something remarkable to keep us excited for what is to come in the future.

The above post is proof of my point on how the WiK is our last feelings before GWII

I don't find a viable excuse in your own argument. The GW1 team and the GW2 team is like comparing a pear to a giraffe. Totally different elements. The hype for GW2 is already there (See: Eye of the North.)

GW1's hype job for GW2 is done.

WiK is just a bridge between the gap to fill in bits of lore and story (Which I like), but I find it disappointing that the hyped up this bridge to such an unbelievable level that they have no way of being able to fill the expectations they themselves built up.

Puddin Cheeks

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

On Welfare

Jelly of the Month [Club]

09 Jul 2010 at 03:50 - 42

Disregard last rant, EDIT

Operations

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Saint Louis, MI (yes, it exists)

Pylons of Bastet [PofB]

E/

09 Jul 2010 at 04:14 - 43

New update, just now.

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

09 Jul 2010 at 04:24 - 44

You guys are RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed. Trust me. You're RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed. Those jades are awesome!

Pinkest One

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2009

Ohio

Amateur Pwnography [SeKz] Officer

Mo/

09 Jul 2010 at 04:39 - 45

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Originally Posted by Lishy

You guys are RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed. Trust me. You're RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed. Those jades are awesome!

Couldnt have put it more eloquently myself, but GW can

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If you undertake this challenge,it will be fraught with danger;do not accept it lightly. The Mursaat are formidable foes, and Willem is sure to be heavily guarded.

vader

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

P/W

09 Jul 2010 at 05:03 - 46

Wow. The Battle For Lion's Arch sucks. I think I almost got all the way through it with H/H. The group with the Perfected Jade overran us and there were just too many of them. I really don't know what the Asuras are waiting for to use their weapon though.

I'll try it again tomorrow hopefully with a human group.

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

09 Jul 2010 at 05:05 - 47

The weapon just infuses npcs and reversed some (?) spectral agony damage. It's pretty useless. In theory, it is supposed to make the npcs and your minions survive spectral agony. Kinda cool how it reflects it, but useless by the time you actually obtain it since the battle is already over.

Once you see the monk boss, you know it's about to be done.

chilly willy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

W/

09 Jul 2010 at 06:09 - 48

anyone wanna run it for me? you can have the rewards i would get for the quest and 10k

i don't like to do things twice and that group with the perfect thing was RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing cheap!

edit-wtf it replaces the f word with that crap

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

09 Jul 2010 at 06:21 - 49

I have never had a prob with anything in game with heroes and henchies. this however is a horse of a different color. wave after wave of relentlessness. i refuse to say that something in this game is too hard, but this is definitely walking the knife edge. i am surprised because i would figure they would want all people to see this content. this isn't going to be something that everyone will see the end of. wish you guys at anet would take that into account. i will roll this with my alliance tomorrow. 2 level 10 henchies thrown into the mix is ridiculous especially for an instance where you could just up their level. w/e, those perfected jade are gonna get rick-rolled tomorrow.

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

09 Jul 2010 at 06:22 - 50

bahaha im so cheap if youre having trouble with the run for north kryta just bring a warrior/para or para/war with fall back and charge thats literally all i had on my bar some of the hero/hench fell behind and they died but oh well

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

09 Jul 2010 at 06:51 - 51

My Blimm keeps falling behind and dying...WHY?!?!?!

chilly willy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

W/

09 Jul 2010 at 06:52 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel of Ravn

bahaha im so cheap if youre having trouble with the run for north kryta just bring a warrior/para or para/war with fall back and charge thats literally all i had on my bar some of the hero/hench fell behind and they died but oh well

i just brought running skills for myself and brought some heroes with aotl or spirits and i spawned some shit every once in a while and the mob attacked the spirits and stopped for a bit then continued i left them way in the dust the battle for la is cheap as hell though the one group keeps steam rolling me

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

09 Jul 2010 at 07:07 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilly willy

i just brought running skills for myself and brought some heroes with aotl or spirits and i spawned some shit every once in a while and the mob attacked the spirits and stopped for a bit then continued i left them way in the dust the battle for la is cheap as hell though the one group keeps steam rolling me

i got steam rolled by the group with the perfected jade armor i think its called

edit: didnt realize there was more than 1 perfected jade armor lol
the last group i didnt realize there was a healer boss but lol i was 100b and there was a necro with mop in my party and yeah they didnt last too long at all

chilly willy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

W/

09 Jul 2010 at 08:50 - 54

that perfect whatever group blows ass. they should either increase the number of npcs or add some kind of environmental effect that adds something similar to using cons or something. its seriously way too much unless you have a super organized team or you get lucky and that group doesn't spawn at all or something its nearly impossible to do. i don't have a whole ton of options as a warrior and i joined a group with another warrior and we rolled with heroes and i got to the same exact spot as i did with the 2 lvl 10 henchmen. well maybe a good portion of that mob was dead but that mob still steamrolled through. this is messed up if i can clear the initial area, the beach, the caves, and most of the battlefield area in FOW with me and my 3 heroes they should be able to rape this mission with all the other firepower provided. i hope there is a bug and it turns out something went wrong and too many things spawn or something that would be nice to wake up and fire up the game and see an update apologizing or some shit

. wow holy crap long post

i ramble

edit-also if it seems like i am whining i kind of am. i appreciate the challenge and all but its crazy how much more power you need to do this mission and i seriously doubt the people who came up with this crap actually completed it either... pics or it didn't happen(no dev mode either!)

its nice to see something pve related thats actually hard but jeeze i doubt the average gamer could beat this. something needs to be toned down or buffed atleast a little bit. crap im rambling again

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

09 Jul 2010 at 09:33 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilly willy

that perfect whatever group blows ass. they should either increase the number of npcs or add some kind of environmental effect that adds something similar to using cons or something. its seriously way too much unless you have a super organized team or you get lucky and that group doesn't spawn at all or something its nearly impossible to do. i don't have a whole ton of options as a warrior and i joined a group with another warrior and we rolled with heroes and i got to the same exact spot as i did with the 2 lvl 10 henchmen. well maybe a good portion of that mob was dead but that mob still steamrolled through. this is messed up if i can clear the initial area, the beach, the caves, and most of the battlefield area in FOW with me and my 3 heroes they should be able to rape this mission with all the other firepower provided. i hope there is a bug and it turns out something went wrong and too many things spawn or something that would be nice to wake up and fire up the game and see an update apologizing or some shit

. wow holy crap long post

i ramble

edit-also if it seems like i am whining i kind of am. i appreciate the challenge and all but its crazy how much more power you need to do this mission and i seriously doubt the people who came up with this crap actually completed it either... pics or it didn't happen(no dev mode either!)

its nice to see something pve related thats actually hard but jeeze i doubt the average gamer could beat this. something needs to be toned down or buffed atleast a little bit. crap im rambling again

I found that group (and the first war boss) a real pain to kill, luckily, the group never went past the first steps, so I could keep throwing my body at them and slowly wear them down.

FYI after 5 min or so the npcs' will respawn, and some of them have meteor shower. If you can ball the jade up long enough for a few caster npc's, they'll go down.

I used Panic and a discordway hero setup, hench were death fodder

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

09 Jul 2010 at 18:01 - 56

wow that mission in LA is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed if you try to use the henchmen, they're totally useless bags of shit. The infusion or whatever the asurans are supposed to do doesn't do crap as that perfected wave just wipes your party out near instantly. Tried using a panic hero too and that didn't help at all.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

09 Jul 2010 at 18:17 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imaginos

wow that mission in LA is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed if you try to use the henchmen, they're totally useless bags of shit. The infusion or whatever the asurans are supposed to do doesn't do crap as that perfected wave just wipes your party out near instantly. Tried using a panic hero too and that didn't help at all.

I think I cheated a bit when I did the quest; since I had no clue what I was doing, I decided to hold at the gate right where the mantle kept spawning.My hero's minions kept agroing the group outside where they all became bunched up. A couple casts of panic, ether nightmare, and CoP (with air of superiority) cleared them out. I did this for the first few spawns until the war boss wiped us, and then decided to camp at the first set of stairs, which worked pretty well.

If you're not a primary mesmer, I'd reccomend microing that panic hero, since the AI doesn't recgonize when to cast panic.

chilly willy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

W/

10 Jul 2010 at 00:24 - 58

ok guys finally did this crap earlier. we had myself being just a lamo warrior with evas and ymlad and light of deldrimor with some basic attacks. a barrage sin. a good aoe dealing ele. a mystery mesmer(i don't know what he did but he brought an awesome healing hero and he did very well) and we had a spirit spammer ranger. and we only had about 2 deaths and a minor hiccup but we blazed through for the most part. there were so many drops i couldn't even see what i was hitting or if i was hitting at all. i had to rely on using the closest person button and the spacebar! and there were so many drops the 1 minute it gave at the end wasn't even enough to pickup everything i got a stack and a half of iron ingots and 10 lockpicks and some major vigor runes it was worth it thats for sure.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

10 Jul 2010 at 00:51 - 59

took a couple of pics.. might help some of you who are trying to hero it

no deaths =] kept them on the bridge with spirits and mm.. there's the bar for norgu.. I have no idea if it's optimal but it works.. other 2 are sabway mm and healer

they get bunched up on the bridge and it's over pretty quick

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

10 Jul 2010 at 01:19 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustache Mayhem

took a couple of pics.. might help some of you who are trying to hero it

no deaths =] kept them on the bridge with spirits and mm.. there's the bar for norgu.. I have no idea if it's optimal but it works.. other 2 are sabway mm and healer

they get bunched up on the bridge and it's over pretty quick

The thing about your screenshots is you have another real player with you and an extra hero not the shitty L10 peons that anet is forcing you to use or forego if trying to do this solo.

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

Me/

10 Jul 2010 at 01:22 - 61

What!? They expect us to play with other players in a massively multiplayer online game instead of going Rambo with fairly meh AI in a fairly challenging mission?

THOSE MONSTERS!!

/endsarcasm

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

10 Jul 2010 at 01:27 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestina

What!? They expect us to play with other players in a massively multiplayer online game instead of going Rambo with fairly meh AI in a fairly challenging mission?

THOSE MONSTERS!!

/endsarcasm

there are plenty of reasons that people don't want to or can not play with other people, such as real life concerns like taking care of a baby or eldery person, where they are on call randomly for random lenghts of time. Or their hours are such that they can't find a pug (like graveyard shift).

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

Me/

10 Jul 2010 at 01:29 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imaginos

there are plenty of reasons that people don't want to or can not play with other people, such as real life concerns like taking care of a baby or eldery person, where they are on call randomly for random lenghts of time. Or their hours are such that they can't find a pug (like graveyard shift).

Stop playing a multiplayer based game then.

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

10 Jul 2010 at 06:14 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestina

Stop playing a multiplayer based game then.

I bought Guild Wars in 2005 when it promised me I can do everything on my own with a team of henchmen. And since they added more heroes in Eye of the North, I think it's pretty much the same concept - everything that is not an Elite area can be H/H'ed.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

10 Jul 2010 at 08:10 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestina

Ah, the typical response as I expect. Good job skippy.

It's people like you that suck all the enjoyment out of fan sites by trolling constantly. Does it make you feel better about yourself?

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

I bought Guild Wars in 2005 when it promised me I can do everything on my own with a team of henchmen. And since they added more heroes in Eye of the North, I think it's pretty much the same concept - everything that is not an Elite area can be H/H'ed.

I myself have been playing since mid beta or so and have bought all of the collector edition campaigns to support anet. The main reason I bought this was that we were told we could solo if needed unlike many other mmorpgs, though not as many today as the designers are making sure to cater to people who solo and group.

On topic of this mission, I am really finding it nigh impossible to do with the L10 hero and henchmen on a warrior. In HM the standard enemies are L26 with others being higher and having alesia +whoever at L20 doesn't help much. Their boosted L20 skills are pretty pathetic and I didn't notice any boost in any of the other npcs skills at all. Very frustrating and has passed the "fun" mark.

chilly willy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

W/

10 Jul 2010 at 09:16 - 66

i feel ya imaginos i had to team up with a few humans in order to do this mission. its really the only thing besides an elite area not counting the fow that i had to do that for. in nm no less! oh well it goes by quick with some gnarly damage humans you really only need 1 healer hero as well some of the npcs heal. the only one who died was me and only because i ran in too far away from the healer. but it still went fine

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

10 Jul 2010 at 09:42 - 67

I only wish they would have opened Gates of Kryta as explorable+quest area along with explorable from The Rise of the White Mantle.

Mitchel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Almkerk, The Netherlands

P/W

10 Jul 2010 at 09:59 - 68

Didn't really have that much problems with the last quest, had Xandra as Signet of Spirits, Ogden as Word of Healing and Olias as Minion Master. Did it on Normal Mode and took the Archer and Enchanter henchmen.

Isfit

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Vienna

D/

10 Jul 2010 at 13:38 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestina

Stop playing a multiplayer based game then.

This, nough said.
Whoever whines about having to find human players in a MMORPG should just shut up and play singleplayer.

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

10 Jul 2010 at 16:01 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestina

Stop playing a multiplayer based game then.

Stop telling people how to play.

Multiplayer doesn't mean you have to play with people, it just means it's a possibility.

And lose the attitude please.

Same for the nab in the post above.

(and yes I managed to do it h/h with no consumables after 4-5 tries)

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

Me/

10 Jul 2010 at 16:08 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

Stop telling people how to play.

Multiplayer doesn't mean you have to play with people, it just means it's a possibility.

And lose the attitude please.

Same for the nab in the post above.

(and yes I managed to do it h/h with no consumables after 4-5 tries)

Hate to tell ya this, but in a MMO, it IS a multiplayer game by default. If you're gonna QQ about not being able to complete something by yourself in a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME then you either need to get with the program, get better or just quit entirely and go back to your single player games.

Is the basic concept of a MMO really that hard to grasp for some people?

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

10 Jul 2010 at 16:16 - 72

No I think you are the one having problems understanding - multiplayer game yes, actually playing with people is still optional.

And again lose the aggressive attitude - I see you just signed up so I'm guessing you aren't actually new but your original name was banned.

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

Me/

10 Jul 2010 at 16:22 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

No I think you are the one having problems understanding - multiplayer game yes, actually playing with people is still optional.

And again lose the aggressive attitude - I see you just signed up so I'm guessing you aren't actually new but your original name was banned.

Actually no, this is my first account on guru. Being a multiplayer game, it's is implied right from the beginning that playing with others is in fact the best way to go, while soloing IS possible, if you expect to be able to solo everything with ease then I'm sorry but you really screwed the pooch on that choice, and crying on the forums really won't change anything.

So again get with the program, get better, or quit entirely.

And once again, basic concept of a MMO, people just can't seem to grasp it.

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

10 Jul 2010 at 16:42 - 74

Sorry I won't be a part in this argument anymore, I suggest you shut up as well.

Isfit

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Vienna

D/

10 Jul 2010 at 17:19 - 75

Celestina is right.
In a MMORPG Single-player is a FEATURE
Ive played tons and tons of free asian mmorpg, and there are countless where you need a party for EVERYTHING...
Thats what Multiplayer implies...
People nowadays really forget that...

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

10 Jul 2010 at 17:23 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestina

And now I'm done, sorry you can't handle brutal honesty ;P

Again, I don't think you're fit to post here with your attitude, I can handle what you call honestly which is in reality more like an opinion.

Now stop baiting and don't post those juvenile chan pics.

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Originally Posted by Isfit

Celestina is right.
Thats what Multiplayer implies...
People nowadays really forget that...

Not it's not, it's not a fact, you are free to interpet it that way if you want it's still not a fact.

And I probably played games before you were born so don't give me "nowadays".

EDIT: one more thing, GW isn't even a MMO anyway.

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

10 Jul 2010 at 17:38 - 77

Many many people, me between others, bought this game knowing it was possible do do without any problems all non elite areas with only AI. It's really one of the strong points of this game.
People could have such things to do in real life that pugs and whatelse become prohibitive. But still can choose to play an online game instead of an offline one for playing sometimes with friends.
So yes, if someone buys a game that claims to be normally playable with only h/h and sees himself unable to do certain non elite contents because henchies are not upgraded with the area upgrade, that person has some right to be discomforted and maybe to complain.

Anyway I've seen this arguement already went into very rude tones, but I wanted to make my point.

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

Me/

10 Jul 2010 at 17:39 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

Aww an internet bully that's keeping it "real" - funny stuff.

Now who's baiting ;P

Nah, not really a bully, as that would imply I'm going out of my way to start things in threads. I simply point out the honest flaws in their arguements, especially when people complain about not being able to solo something that is designed for multiple players.......of course, you yourself have proven it can be soloed, so even that arguement falls flat on it's face.

But hey, think of me as you will, either ignore it or suck it up <3

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

10 Jul 2010 at 18:22 - 79

While it is true that GW is a multiplayer game, try to remember that the majority play it as a single player game with chat functionality. It kinda lost the multiplayer nature to an extent. As such, telling people that they have to play it multiplayer may well be telling the majority of players to play in a way they don't like. And Anet has so far cared about the majority.

Doing so in a disparaging tone, however, is rather worse. There are many parts of GW that can't be done solo - and the parts that are not popular, where you CAN'T get a group, get very problematic.

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

10 Jul 2010 at 18:25 - 80

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Sorry, but again, I tend to be brutally honest, if people can't handle that then they need to learn to suck it up.

Good manners should not be considered optional.