Commemorative/Oppressor weapons

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

So, for a stack of war supplies, you can get one of either of these?

I looked at the commemorative weapons - they all seemed to suxor, 'cept for the recurve bow and the strength shield. Hardly worth a 75k stack of war supplies.

I'm not sure how to see the Oppressor skins - nothing on wiki yet. Are they worth 75k? You still have to mod and inscribe them, so are they as 'l33t as the destroyer weapons?

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

You might find some discussion on the weapons already in this thread, though it may be slightly off-topic. Also, you can find the Oppressor skins on the wiki here.

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Galle...or%27s_weapons

There's your link to Oppressor's Weapons. They sell for about 20-50k now. And yes, they are the new "l33t" weapons to get and they are moddable.

Some of the Commemorative Weapons are not too bad, like Alari's Blades have a unique skin, but yes they will not be worth as much as the Oppressor's weapons. They sell for around 5-20k at most.

But you can get Commemorative Weapons at anytime in the keep, but with the Oppressor's, you have to beat the last mission to get access to them.

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
... Oppressor's Weapons. They sell for about 20-50k now. And yes, they are the new "l33t" weapons to get and they are moddable.

Some of the Commemorative Weapons are not too bad, like Alari's Blades have a unique skin, but yes they will not be worth as much as the Oppressor's weapons. They sell for around 5-20k at most.
That's kinda sad, considering I see all the time, "WTB war supplies, 300g each." 300g*250 is 75k (yes, I have 20 medals of honor to liquidate as well)...
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
You might find some discussion on the weapons already in this thread, though it may be slightly off-topic. Also, you can find the Oppressor skins on the wiki here.
Yeah, I found that thread in <search> - not worth searching 8 pages for relevant replies.

But THX for the skin pages - for some reason, the wiki search I did resulted in no obvious links (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Liong...28collector%29). LOL, just click on the weapon?!?

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

It's a shame that things like this can't be added to the Hall of Failure.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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The quests in the chain that leads up to the weapon NPCs give medals in their rewards. They also give Royal Gifts which have a decent chance of giving medals too.

You needn't spend 75k on supplies.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid
But you can get Commemorative Weapons at anytime in the keep, but with the Oppressor's, you have to beat the last mission to get access to them.
The Oppressor item NPCs are up the hill to the left as you walk in to LA Keep.

belshazaarswrath

belshazaarswrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

AMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
But you can get Commemorative Weapons at anytime in the keep, but with the Oppressor's, you have to beat the last mission to get access to them.
That's not true. There in the same place as they are in the last mission.

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

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Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi View Post
The Oppressor item NPCs are up the hill to the left as you walk in to LA Keep.
I did not know that, thanks for telling me.

All this time I kept doing the last mission over and over to get my Oppressor's Weapons >.<

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi View Post
You needn't spend 75k on supplies.
I know - like I said, I still have 20 medals of honor to liquidate. It's unfortunate that they're worth 1/3 of what they would have been, had they been war supplies in the first place.

Or, in other words, only a *MORON* is turning in war supplies for medals of honor...

EDIT - FWIW, I've saved up 7 stacks of war supplies, and over 150 royal gifts...

EDIT PRIME:
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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
All this time I kept doing the last mission over and over to get my Oppressor's Weapons >.<
See the post Shayne alluded to - I was posting in it, and beat the final WiK quest fairly easily, without using an essence of celerity...

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

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Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney View Post
I know - like I said, I still have 20 medals of honor to liquidate. It's unfortunate that they're worth 1/3 of what they would have been, had they been war supplies in the first place.

Or, in other words, only a *MORON* is turning in war supplies for medals of honor...
Well look at it this way. War Supplies are tradeable. Medals Of Honor are not.

Now with War Supplies being more than an Oppressor Weapon, here is my thought. When you trade in War Supplies for Medals Of Honor, you are stuck with those medals from now on. Then when you trade in those medals for an Oppressor's Weapon, you can get one specific weapon. So they sell for a lower amount cause the weapon your are selling is the weapon you chose, not what the person you are trying to sell to may want.

Unlike with War Supplies, that is basically a weapon of your choice. You sell War Supplies to a player, and they can get any weapon of their own choice.

So the price will be higher for someone that wants a weapon of their choice (War Supplies), instead of buying the weapon itself straight up (Oppressor's Weapons) from another player.

It's the same thing with the Talismans and such from endgame. The price for a Talisman that lets you choose a green of your choice, will always be higher than the actual greens themselves because you are selling that person their own choice of weapon, not what weapon you chose.

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Originally Posted by Coney View Post
See the post Shayne alluded to - I was posting in it, and beat the final WiK quest fairly easily, without using an essence of celerity...
Oh I had no trouble doing the final quest at all. It was just tedious is all to have to do it over and over, when all this time I could of got the weapons in the keep

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
So the price will be higher for someone that wants a weapon of their choice (War Supplies), instead of buying the weapon itself straight up (Oppressor's Weapons) from another player.
Me: WTS Oppressor Weapons 75k

Player: Which weapons do you have?

Me: Tell me what you want and I'll convert my medals to that.



I don't see the problem.

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

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Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae View Post
Me: WTS Oppressor Weapons 75k

Player: Which weapons do you have?

Me: Tell me what you want and I'll convert my medals to that.



I don't see the problem.
Basically what I just said.

You are selling a choice to the player, not a fixed decision. Thus, being more expensive.

Now if you had say Oppressor's Recurve Bow, you are selling a specific weapon that only a select few players may want, thus having to sell cheaper to find a buyer.

But since you don't actually have a weapon, and instead have Medals/Supplies, you have a higher player base to sell to cause you are offering their choice of weapon, meaning more expensive cause they get to choose what they want.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

But will it work in practice? does it?

Medals go for the same amount as a stack of war supplies?

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Originally Posted by Carinae View Post
But will it work in practice? does it?

Medals go for the same amount as a stack of war supplies?
Medals are worth 0 since you can not trade or sell them to another player - you must trade them in for weapons before you can make any money off them.

but I think I see what you mean - you are selling the option for the other player to pick what weapon they want you to get for them

That may work for a while - i know the weapons were trading for quite a bit the first couple of days. But i don't see the weapons remaining that high for very long.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae View Post
Me: WTS Oppressor Weapons 75k

Player: Which weapons do you have?

Me: Tell me what you want and I'll convert my medals to that.



I don't see the problem.
Me: illusion focus plox

You: <trades in> ok here it is, that'll be 75k

Me: That's a stupid horn! I want a shiny axe!

The Scorpion Knight

The Scorpion Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

^ that's what I was thinking would happen.

Since they can now be dyed, anyone got a pic of how they look. Like of the shield or something.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

I used medals a couple nights ago for a staff someone wanted in kamadan- deal went down smooth for 50k.. he was wtb stack of war supplies

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

anyways this thread seems as good a place to post this as any, and it's been in the back of my mind for almost a week.

I have enough MoH's to get like 15 trade-ins, and really, I don't have the inventory space for that. I did enough Falken running back when the getting was good that I was able to get all 3 SB minis, so I have no reason to open more Royal Gifts. And I still have about 25 stacks of war supplies, but I don't want to sell them because I'm not sure if this WiK content is going away, or is permanent. What to do..........

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
anyways this thread seems as good a place to post this as any, and it's been in the back of my mind for almost a week.

I have enough MoH's to get like 15 trade-ins, and really, I don't have the inventory space for that. I did enough Falken running back when the getting was good that I was able to get all 3 SB minis, so I have no reason to open more Royal Gifts. And I still have about 25 stacks of war supplies, but I don't want to sell them because I'm not sure if this WiK content is going away, or is permanent. What to do..........
I believe it is going to be here permanently.

It's not a holiday event that comes and goes. This is part of the main story in Guild Wars to help branch it to Guild Wars 2. Since it plays a main part, I believe it will be here permanently to allow everyone a chance to take part in it.

Commander Kanen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

[DVDF]

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I like how there is no Commemorative weapon for paragon or dervish :/

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

Does anyone have any pictures of the commemorative weapons? The wiki has none, and I haven't been able to find any anywhere else either.

Specifically, I'm interested in the melee weapons, mostly sword and dagger.

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

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Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikimaru View Post
Does anyone have any pictures of the commemorative weapons? The wiki has none, and I haven't been able to find any anywhere else either.

Specifically, I'm interested in the melee weapons, mostly sword and dagger.
The wiki does have them.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Commemorative_Weapon

Just click on the weapon you want to see, and view the image to the right.

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Originally Posted by Commander Kanen View Post
I like how there is no Commemorative weapon for paragon or dervish :/
Nor Ritualist.

Most of the weapons are based off the main allies/enemies that you meet while doing the WiK stuff. Since there was no Paragons, Dervishes, or Ritualists to assist you, they probably won't have weapons for them.

Seems weird that they would add just a basic Spectral Wand in the mix, instead of something like Koro's Staff or Lucent's Wand.

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
The wiki does have them.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Commemorative_Weapon

Just click on the weapon you want to see, and view the image to the right.
Aw, I'm very disappointed in them all....

StormX

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

Not worth it IMO, the oppressor weapons have boring skins and the commemorative weapons have mostly bad stats. WTB another weapon design contest =)

Commander Kanen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

[DVDF]

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Originally Posted by StormX View Post
Not worth it IMO, the oppressor weapons have boring skins and the commemorative weapons have mostly bad stats. WTB another weapon design contest =)
I Agree. Draconic Aegis is the best looking shield ever !


Or atleast use skins that you cant get in pve now

(im talking about shield of the dead and stuff thats pvp reward only)

Have you seen the commemorative daggers ?! Its just two Elonain Gladius swords ! Talk about running out of idea's (Shinobi Blades would have been better lol !! )

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Galle...or%27s_weapons

There's your link to Oppressor's Weapons. They sell for about 20-50k now. And yes, they are the new "l33t" weapons to get and they are moddable.

Some of the Commemorative Weapons are not too bad, like Alari's Blades have a unique skin, but yes they will not be worth as much as the Oppressor's weapons. They sell for around 5-20k at most.

But you can get Commemorative Weapons at anytime in the keep, but with the Oppressor's, you have to beat the last mission to get access to them.
I'd never sell one of these weapons for less then 60k. I'd rather sell the supplies for 250g each, which they're still selling for easily enough, and make 62k.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae View Post
Me: WTS Oppressor Weapons 75k

Player: Which weapons do you have?

Me: Tell me what you want and I'll convert my medals to that.



I don't see the problem.
I did this for awhile at around 60-65k a weapon as getting more then that was/is very difficult.

Now all I see is wts oppressor weapon 50k left and right, so I've gone to selling war supplies for a far greater profit. Not worth the time to try and sell the weapon of your choice now.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae View Post
Me: WTS Oppressor Weapons 75k

Player: Which weapons do you have?

Me: Tell me what you want and I'll convert my medals to that.



I don't see the problem.
You can get screwed by someone asking for, like, a communing focus, and then backing out of the deal.

Trbayth

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Fellows of Mythgar

Rt/

Ask for a deposit. A RL shop that takes custom orders would want a good-faith deposit to show you really want what you are ordering.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trbayth View Post
Ask for a deposit. A RL shop that takes custom orders would want a good-faith deposit to show you really want what you are ordering.
noone in their right mind would do this

Trbayth

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Fellows of Mythgar

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Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
noone in their right mind would do this
Then you're asking the seller to assume all the risk in the transaction. No seller in his/her right mind would do that.

Go try to order custom cabinets/furniture/draperies/etc. without leaving a deposit. Or contract for work done on your house without a deposit.

Bandwagon

Bandwagon

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Join Date: Jan 2010

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Originally Posted by Trbayth View Post
Then you're asking the seller to assume all the risk in the transaction. No seller in his/her right mind would do that.

Go try to order custom cabinets/furniture/draperies/etc. without leaving a deposit. Or contract for work done on your house without a deposit.
RL logic =/= video game logic.

Its so much easier to cheat someone in a game transaction than it is in a real life transaction.

You can get arrested/fined for cheating your contractor out of the work he/she does for you, never mind the fact that there will be a whole sleuth of legal documentation (IE: accountability) that will be filled out. In GW you have to Screen Shot the deal and transaction and HOPE arena net takes your word on it.

I've converted war supplies to medals (bad move) and sold them to prospective buyers for 50k per weapon without incident. If an incident did occur I have plenty of screenshots / chat convos and what have you that I could make a reasonable case against them.

By the way some of the WiK weapon skins are pretty awsome Like the shield or scythe dyed black

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trbayth View Post
Then you're asking the seller to assume all the risk in the transaction. No seller in his/her right mind would do that.

Go try to order custom cabinets/furniture/draperies/etc. without leaving a deposit. Or contract for work done on your house without a deposit.
as the poster above stated. There are more examples how rl and ig logic are directly opposed than they are similar.

Anyway I got some roof work earlier this year done without a deposit. It was a total of about $6000. So I did try, and succeded.

Garreth MacLeod

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

So does anyone think they will fix the clipping issue with the focus and female mesmer legs?

Celestina

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Garreth MacLeod View Post
So does anyone think they will fix the clipping issue with the focus and female mesmer legs?
Considering some other armors and focuses still have clipping issues, not likely.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

FINALLY!!! Been waiting a long time for these weapons and they finally here! Got both the tactics shield and sword Oppressor as a set! Couldn't be anymore satisfied, now. I've circled around my Hall of Monuments a couple of times just to watch the red light trail effect from the sword and shield. Lol!

Sucks that Captain Langmar died, though.
R.I.P.

ManlyMan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

Alari's Double Blades are so nice.

NocturnalLunacy

NocturnalLunacy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

The Shadows of the Cornfields Nebraska

TruE

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Originally Posted by Commander Kanen View Post
I like how there is no Commemorative weapon for paragon or dervish :/
That's cuz the characters that the comm weapons are made for are not dervishes or paragons. At least I don't think so, I haven't seen any of them as such.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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Originally Posted by Owik Gall View Post
Sucks that Captain Langmar died, though.
R.I.P.
She's still outside Longeye's Ledge.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garreth MacLeod View Post
So does anyone think they will fix the clipping issue with the focus and female mesmer legs?
with outstanding armor bugs from 4 years ago? hahahaha no of course they won't fix their graphic screw ups.