Dwayna's Faction

Hi guys! I was thinking of this for a while regarding a problem in Guild wars. As i have played for 5 years since the beginning of Guild wars, i noticed a significant change in the number of players playing, especially in the first few campaigns/expansions of Guild wars. Most of the remaining players i know are mainly experienced players or players who like me, have played for quite a while. This means that new players are stuck to team with new players, as many of the experienced players are too busy gaining titles, farming, pvping. This leaves the new player to feel confused, isolated in their new game, unable to enjoy the full contents and fun of guildwars as no one have the time to teach them and are often raged on, kicked out or humiliated. I was thinking how to mix the two worlds again and i came up with Dwayna's Faction.

Dwayna's Faction is basically like Balthazar's faction, earned through deeds associated with the god's bidding. One way of the main ways of gaining Dwayna's faction is
+to help players who have not completed a mission or bonus, quests or dungeon. The amount of factions earned depends on difficulty, length and whether it's hard mode or normal mode.
+Donation NPC. A Donation NPC will collect only CERTAIN items which you can give such as exp scrolls or dyes. A new player can only collect a certain amount per week or month using "credits"
+Vanquishing, Bounty certain monsters, bosses of evil or corruption.
+Dwayna's Question NPC. A npc will hold list of questions from new players and for every answer by another players gains him points. If the player is selected as a best answer, more points will be given.


Dwayna's Faction can be exchanged for certain things like Balthazar Faction.
+Skills
+Items similar to Balthazar's
+For top 10 highest Dwayna's Faction weekly, a "Gift Of Dwayna" will be given to those players with a rare drop of Miniature "Avatar of Dwayna"

That's all i can think of for now

Hopefully this will make new comers feel more confident, happy and hopefully they will be with us for a longer time This is both awarding to new players and experienced players and hopefully a hierarchy of inexperienced and experienced players will be smaller.

The Title for Dwayna's faction:
1. Kind Heart
2. Blessed Soul
3. Bringer of Good
4. Touched by Dwayna
5. Follower of Dwayna
6. Priest of Dwayna
7. High Priest of Dwayna
8. Mouth of Dwayna
9. Avatar of Dwayna
10. Messiah of Dwayna

Thanks!

Players shouldn't need a title track as incentive to act nice to newer players. If they do act nice to other players for the title's sake, then they're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Who cares, the idea is to keep new players in the game and this isn't so bad.

I like it, hopefully others do also...
The gift idea is kind bad but maybe something of the sorts.

This.

And it would only introduce more hate towards newbs, who want to play slow-pace on their quests and missions, don't want to skip cutscenes/content etc.

The entire title, skills, minis and other rewards basically call for rushing newbs through content, in time-efficient manner.

Well. I like the idea, but i would change some things. First I don´t really like title, about a gift, I think it would be cool if u need like 5k factions to get gift which gives u party stuff, alco,... and has some chance to drop mini.
Second thing how would you know when you help someone who has´t done the quest?

Though it looks like a nice idea, I really fear the above would happen.

I think Shayne won the thread. Also, Dwayna loves all of us, She doesn't play favorites.

It's a fun-to-think-about idea but I don't think there is the right motivation behind it.

I think there should be times when players should rip into the minds and phycological damage the players who go out of the way to ruin other people's experience.

With that said, I'm not against this and I like helping players. It's just title hunting and low rewards that gives me different priorities. Oh yeah, the suggestion includes a new title...

Guild Wars should have more titles to choose from. I can't see how people can be against having options towards how they want to get their 30 titles.

We dont get titles for balth faction, so unless you make attaining the faction similar to that of lux/kurz i see no reason for a title track.
Also, the "top 10" is a stupid idea that will just make people grind the easiest mission, making it a hollow gift if its for the reasons you said

I like the idea. Too many experienced players are quitting GW because its getting boring. If a player had an incentive to stay in the game and help newer players, it might keep them around longer.
TBH, i dont play in-game much anymore; i might do the Zbounty or Wanted bounty now and then but the overall PvE play in GW has struck a "rock-bottom" point, at least for me.

If something like this were implemented, i would definitely want to play again. Helping the newer players is fun but i wouldnt just do it if i could be playing MW2 instead =/

Also, i definitely support the idea of a Miniature Avatar Of Dwayna

I don't get it, yeah its nice to be nice and help new players but what do you think "We" did when we started 4-5years ago we were on the same boat as the new players now, just only then we never had people that knew alot about the games either so we relied on each other to help each other in times of need and never had wiki to refer to either meh sorry for that

Edit: To the point though i dont think rewarding us for helping is a good idea its kinda selfish is it not ? the point in helping is to know that your doing something good not for our own gain :S

/signed if 4. Touched by Dwayna is implemented

This turns acts of selflessness into acts of selfishness.
This would be easy abusable by people with free character slots or multiple accounts.
New players would never learn the game if they're rushed through content by experienced players at breakneck speed.

totally not. i am of the mind that new players should take their time in getting through all of the content. also, they have access to stuff i didn't when i started gw:
heroes
pve only skills
consumables
tomes
etc.

/notsigned

/not signed. There already are friendly, helpful people in GW helping newbies out for no other motive than being nice to someone. The potential reward of making new friend is already there.

Shane and Ugh hit the nail on the head with thier posts.

This won't make people care about new players, as mentioned previously.

/notsigned.

Thanks for your feedbacks!

I know that this suggestion will only put on false "good" intentions regarding players helping newcomers. But even if they put on a false smile, a false open arm, atleast the players will still feel accompanied rather then especially those in prophecies playing in asia time zones, to just complete the campaign everyday with little or no help, no teammates. I have recently bought prophecies for a friend to try GW, everyday i would have to accompany him or else he really don't know whats going on.

Some people will abuse it, but some potential people just need that extra little push to have to "authentic" motivation to help people. As when two worlds meet, some will be bad, but some will be good. It's better then not meeting at all right?

To be honest, i haven't been to ascalon for months, but i miss those times where i will laugh and fall of my chair because of the naiveness and the sillyness of newcomers i enjoyed those times but now i admit i have developed an annoyance for newcomers as i'm too use to being with experienced players. Just imagine you as a new rookie going to a new Job, you wouldn't like it if all those workers thought you were a nuisance? Finding your time around is stressful, tiring and boring. Some will quit in worse circumstances.

It builds character.

You don't want everyone to build lifeless, irritated and raging characters like many people in Guildwars.

This says enough.




Conclusion: horrible idea.

i can see this being abused by people with 2 accounts...

make new character and play with it on another account. Delete and do it again
title in no time and gifts and reward too..

Can we get a "Grenth's Faction" which rewards you for being an ass? I'm just asking because being "good" seems very out of character for my Necromancer...

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... okay, that may or may not have been true (mixed intentions, perhaps), but that's besides the point.

I don't like the suggestion for the same reasons mentioned by the other posters (see Shayne's reply for my personal feelings towards it).

Edit: I was bored, so I made this!

Grenth's Faction title progression!
Rank 1. Rotten Heart
Rank 2. Darkened Soul
Rank 3. Bringer of Judgment
Rank 4. Defiled by Grenth
Rank 5. Minion of Grenth
Rank 6. Fanatic of Grenth
Rank 7. Cultist of Grenth
Rank 8. Servant of Grenth
Rank 9. Avatar of Grenth
Rank 10. Reaper of Grenth

Suggestions to change these are of course welcome.

That's a brilliant idea, Anet should implement it.

Many of the lifeless, irritated, and raging characters are the people who started playing a long time ago, which was when people were always around to do stuff and help people. According to my infallible logic, now that there are no people around to do stuff and help people, people will no longer turn out to be lifeless, irritated, and raging.

I started 4.5 years ago, and I haven't. Most of the people I see this way have grinded the game to the bone and have nothing else to do but complain, or despite complaining about Anet until they are blue in the face, choose to stay and make everyone else miserable.

It's pretty obvious that if such a title was added, there would be a way to prevent double accounts and such. That's not a solid reason disapprove an idea.

Agreed.

Besides I'm sure many ppl want another reason to help new players, other than the fact of that good feeling you get right afterward.

And that good feeling isn't really so great as this is a game and you can't really see that person's appreciation other than just looking at chat and seeing a "thx".

/signed

I remember giving random shit to people in runescape when trading was still possible there. The only thing they said was "can i has moar plz?".

Let's be honest, guys. All of you are doing this because it makes you feel good and charitable, in other words, to give yourself an ego boost. Replacing that with a title won't make much difference in terms of motivation, it will just make more people do it and tbh, I don't see anything wrong with that.

Rez Plz any new dervs in kamadan need a healer

I've given away money, weps, runs and I don't feel this really needs a title, good or bad, helping others out is why you have guilds and a friend list.

This thread seems more like a personal gain by rushing new players instead of rewarding helpfull players.

If you wanne be the nice guy then why do you need a title or new "rare" mini's?

Have you been a a** to some players and feel guilty and hoping to find something to clean your conscience by getting a title under your name to show off to others "Hi I am mister nice guy"?

I don't know so much about the Title, but I Agree with the modivation to keep New Players interested in the Game. I've been playing for 4.5 years and I still like heading to ascalon to help out new people every now and then. I don't feel I need a title, but I am for giving those others who do not have the modivation to do this, that 'push' as you said Qcumber.

/signed

I remember helping new players and all they asked was more help and they raged me. So title for helping? /notsigned

I would have to agree with that completely. You want a title, work on titles. Don't need another for helping people when it's something people should already be doing.

Actually, most new players do not have access to tomes and consumables. Tomes require HM to get, which new players obviously do not have. And both cost more money than a really new player has.

Still, like said above. I help plenty of new players/characters and I would much rather not have a title for it. The people I help are either my guild members (so you should be obligated to help them anyways) or they're my friends from other games (or my sister). I get a clearer inventory which is reward enough. Plus, then you end up with title grinders that will literally run new players (in mass) through a campaign. They'll learn nothing but to look/ask for runs... That is not playing the game. Specially when you haven't played whatever you're being run through for the first time.
/notsigned

Being a player with two accounts, I see this as something that can be easily abused. If you want more "rewards" other than warm fuzzies for helping players, I suggest you start powertrading and then giving your garbage drops to newbies (you kill two birds with one stone).

/notsigned

Edit: I'm going to elaborate on the abusable concept a little bit more. If you get points for helping out a character for the first time through a mission, then people would only need two accounts and could then power run through the first part of canta. If you were to restrict the points being given one a completion of a new mission per account, there's not going to be enough newbies to get players past rank 2 or so because there are so many people that have done most of the missions compared to people who haven't.