Greens versus gold
a-kyle
So every one is selling some of the golds (depending on the weapon, sheild, bla...) at say 100k+ (again depending on the item) but when it comes to greens i got 6 given to me for free, deldimor stuff, zelous stuff and a couple others. what I am wondering is, is the value of green that of white?
Marty Silverblade
Performance wise they're fine, but for most players that concern is well and truly behind them. People want prestige. Green weapons have none unless they're uber rare. Bad skins, meh mods, and common-ness (I'm sure there's an actual word for that) is what makes them generally worthless.
a-kyle
i mean their not ugly greens and here i thought green was above gold....
Mustache Mayhem
can't be modded either.. like let's say you wanted a vampiric flatbow 15>50 with a fortitude mod- I don't even think there is a green for that
Apok
Greens are, presumably, the rarest. However, since Greens mostly only drop from bosses, they aren't exactly as hard to come by than Golds.
Also, you can mod Golds and they give a better euphoric feeling when they drop.
Also, you can mod Golds and they give a better euphoric feeling when they drop.
Black Metal
without diving into a history lesson, when greens were first introduced, they were very highly sought after. This is because no weapons had inscriptions, and salvaging mods usually destroyed the item.
Fast forward to now, where many of the rarest skins are golds that only drop from difficult dungeon end chests (and very rarely at that), plus they are all inscribable and its easy to come across good mods to mod them with, and the tide has turned.
I like greens because, if they have decent mods, you put them on heroes and keep the nice salvaged mods for yourself. Then I love rare skinned, pretty golds to use for my chars.
Fast forward to now, where many of the rarest skins are golds that only drop from difficult dungeon end chests (and very rarely at that), plus they are all inscribable and its easy to come across good mods to mod them with, and the tide has turned.
I like greens because, if they have decent mods, you put them on heroes and keep the nice salvaged mods for yourself. Then I love rare skinned, pretty golds to use for my chars.
Lanier
greens are cheap and good for heroes when you dont want to go out and get some collector's items. As for myself, I'll use a green if it has the exact mods I want (not very common among greens) or if it has a nice, exclusive, skin like my ritualist's Alsin's Walking Stick.
a-kyle
With greens, I seek them out especially bows, sword and sheilds because they look so cool, I was so phsyced about getting my deld sheild and sword.
Reverend Dr
GW economy is driven not by stats. This is not a grinding game. Max level equipment (e.g. green) is easy to obtain.
GW economy is driven by rarity of skins of weapons/armor. So of course gold is going to be worth far more than green.
GW economy is driven by rarity of skins of weapons/armor. So of course gold is going to be worth far more than green.
aspi
Green will do fine for me or my heroes. Don't give a crap about the so called prestige when using a rare weapon.
Fieryice
Not being able to modify a green weapon is limiting. I prefer the golds.
Jk Arrow
Golds can be tailored to what you want. You can change mods and most can be dyed.
Greens can do nether of these (unless there are greens I don't know about that can be dyed.)
Greens can do nether of these (unless there are greens I don't know about that can be dyed.)
cellardweller
Greens were introduced as a "common-man's" alternative to the incredibly rare "perfect" golds. The original's greens were worth a significant amount, but that amount still paled in comparison to what a 20/20 r9 staff would have fetched (7k hours later and I still haven't seen one outside a collector). Inscriptions made it easier to mod the golds, bringing their rarity in line with a green, but the distiction still remains.
Aldric
If its got the skin and stats I like then I really don't care if its gold,green purple blue or white.
However greens tend to have average or strange combinations of stats and average skins and since they can't be modified or dyed then they have generally low value.
However greens tend to have average or strange combinations of stats and average skins and since they can't be modified or dyed then they have generally low value.
jazilla
best part about green weapons is they are really easy to justify getting them customized for bonus 20% damage. The funny part about high-end golds is that people rarely customize them because they want to be able to sell them again and make more money lol. I always laugh when I see high-end weapons on warriors/rangers and i know they aren't customized.
Voodoo Rage
Even though they aren't worth much, I always get a little rush when I get a green drop for me (except Claws of Broodmother).
Chthon
1. Some golds are rarer than greens. Certain skins only drop from dungeon end chests or mobs that are harder to farm than most bosses.
2. Most greens are undesirable as items. 90% of the greens have mods that I would never choose to put on an item myself. (Newsflash, people: +30hp is inferior to +5AL, and sundering is waaaay inferior to vampiric.) Of the few greens that have decent mods, the majority have ugly or common skins. I'd say there's fewer than a dozen greens with both optimal mods and a nice skin.
2. Most greens are undesirable as items. 90% of the greens have mods that I would never choose to put on an item myself. (Newsflash, people: +30hp is inferior to +5AL, and sundering is waaaay inferior to vampiric.) Of the few greens that have decent mods, the majority have ugly or common skins. I'd say there's fewer than a dozen greens with both optimal mods and a nice skin.
Spike Stritter
The one good thing about greens is sometimes they have mods/inscription combinations you cant duplicate.
Ex. Shen's Censure because it has 2 Inscriptions
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shen%27s_Censure
Oh, and sorry if this was already mentioned.
But besides that, greens dont provide any other benefit compared to golds.
Ex. Shen's Censure because it has 2 Inscriptions
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shen%27s_Censure
Oh, and sorry if this was already mentioned.
But besides that, greens dont provide any other benefit compared to golds.
MMSDome
Green = common
Gold = Less common and flexible in mods (and inscriptions for Nightfall and Eye of the North)
Gold = Less common and flexible in mods (and inscriptions for Nightfall and Eye of the North)
Snograt
It's always made me chuckle that green weapons are described as "unique" - considering they're the least unique thing in GW 
T-Strudel
For me, its golds, as previously mentioned, most are dyeable, and easy to mod to your needs. Then again, also mentioned the stats on some greens can't be replicated, like the Rose Focus and a few from Sorrow's Furnace.
Personally, my favorite sword only comes as a blue from collectors, the Etched Sword. I'd love to see it in a gold or green, but that's going OT.
Personally, my favorite sword only comes as a blue from collectors, the Etched Sword. I'd love to see it in a gold or green, but that's going OT.
Iuris
There are two problems with green items:
First, they are a fixed deal. You cannot modify them to suit your needs, they always have the same specific skin and similar. Compare to a gold item which can be modded to suit the needs of your character.
Second, while green items are rarer than gold items, USEFUL gold items are rarer than greens. Gold drops come with various required attributes and this vastly affects both their usefulness and value. For example, while a focus item requiring 9 in channeling magic would be valuable as it would be possible to modify it as a part of a 40/40 set, a focus requiring 13 in inspiration magic (which mesmers use as a third attribute and don't put many attribute points in) would be hardly of any use.
First, they are a fixed deal. You cannot modify them to suit your needs, they always have the same specific skin and similar. Compare to a gold item which can be modded to suit the needs of your character.
Second, while green items are rarer than gold items, USEFUL gold items are rarer than greens. Gold drops come with various required attributes and this vastly affects both their usefulness and value. For example, while a focus item requiring 9 in channeling magic would be valuable as it would be possible to modify it as a part of a 40/40 set, a focus requiring 13 in inspiration magic (which mesmers use as a third attribute and don't put many attribute points in) would be hardly of any use.
Amy Awien
Greens can't be modded and usually have mediocre stats.
Not customizing a weapon that is intended to be used for damage is plain silly.
Not customizing a weapon that is intended to be used for damage is plain silly.
MMSDome
Green has one benefit and that is the green shields that have +10AL v. Demons. For DoA of course.
YunSooJin
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best part about green weapons is they are really easy to justify getting them customized for bonus 20% damage. The funny part about high-end golds is that people rarely customize them because they want to be able to sell them again and make more money lol. I always laugh when I see high-end weapons on warriors/rangers and i know they aren't customized.
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you'd be wrong to make such statements, little one
Mustache Mayhem
yeah think most vets customize even rare golds.. wasn't there a guy a long time back who had a req 8 crystalline 15>50 old school- and he customized it
Wish Swiftdeath
Yeah I customize weapons on my warriors and sins. I recently gave in and customized the silverwing on my ranger but I can understand if people don't because I mostly used the ranger for PvP and poisonspreading/interrupts was the main job he had. The easy solution is to buy rare weapons only for caster characters
Chthon
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Originally Posted by Spike Stritter
The one good thing about greens is sometimes they have mods/inscription combinations you cant duplicate.
Ex. Shen's Censure because it has 2 Inscriptions http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shen%27s_Censure Oh, and sorry if this was already mentioned. But besides that, greens dont provide any other benefit compared to golds. |
Spike Stritter
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Originally Posted by Chthon
Yes, but even those tiny few non-replicable items mostly have stats that you still wouldn't want in the first place. The only exception I can think of is Konrru' Fervor which makes an ideal high set swap for a minion master build.
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Snograt
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Originally Posted by YunSooJin
you'd be wrong to make such statements, little one
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MithranArkanere
Greens are nice for heroes.
For characters I use golds. I still miss a weapon upgrade trader, though.
For characters I use golds. I still miss a weapon upgrade trader, though.
MisterB
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
Green has one benefit and that is the green shields that have +10AL v. Demons. For DoA of course.
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Painbringer
Greens are crap except~ the ogre slaying knife (Just because) and the Yakslapper (This one just rules). My next conquest will be to finish the game with the oger slayer knife just for fun...
Imaginos
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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr
GW economy is driven not by stats. This is not a grinding game. Max level equipment (e.g. green) is easy to obtain.
GW economy is driven by rarity of skins of weapons/armor. So of course gold is going to be worth far more than green. |
Amy Awien
Grind? Lol, no. It's optional, you don't need to grind as you do in other games where you have to grind through some part to get to another, or for xp/levels. And when you do decide to grind for a title or something else, you can switch between different grinds, without one requiring one bore to unlock another.
Voodoo Rage
I know it's hip to hate on greens but I'm one of those crazy players who literally plays 20 different toons. I also like to experiment with various hero combinations so the ability to have a nice green weapon to dump into the hands of all those heroes is pretty convenient. I'm also big on blue collector's stuff (especially when you start realizing that a lot of VERY common drops will net you a nice 20/20 focus. No free 20/20 blue wands though...). And honestly, I rather enjoy taking a break and farming a green now and then. I think it's kind of fun. :shrug:
Chthon
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Originally Posted by Spike Stritter
My OP stated one that is an exception. Shen's Censure is the perfect Smiter offhand for 600/Smiter builds like for DTSC
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Reverend Dr
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Originally Posted by Imaginos
Actually GW IS a Grinding Game...it just happens to be a "Grind to be pretty/show off your e-peen" instead of a "Grind to get max gear" game.
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Grinding for vanity items is a completely different idea.