I think I've seen a lot of threads on the Par and the Derv fixes that need to happen. its been what 4 months? 3 months? or is it 2? can we speculate that after the war their cooking up something big? maybe more content, explorable areas and what not?
or are they just taking their time because their live team is too busy testing the new features of gw2?
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a-kyle
Karate Jesus
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I think I've seen a lot of threads on the Par and the Derv fixes that need to happen. its been what 4 months? 3 months? or is it 2? can we speculate that after the war their cooking up something big? maybe more content, explorable areas and what not?
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I don't honestly see any large content in our near future. I think we'll probably get the skill update in a month or two, but again, that's purely speculation.
BenjZee
Technically they haven't even finished the War in Kryta as i assume where Murro mentioned in a few days there would be a proclamation from the Queen, that this would actually be in some form or ingame speech or another article from himself.
Lanier
Its probably going to be Septemberish before we see another update.
Gill Halendt
Actually, the Mesmer update was released at the end of May. That's two months for me, with an intense schedule in the middle - the WiK updates and some fixes.
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by a-kyle
or are they just taking their time because their live team is too busy testing the new features of gw2?
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a-kyle
If updates take forever - which i dont mind. whats guildwars gonna look like a year after gw2 is released? never mind that, whats guildwars 2 gonna look like? because if this is their way of doing updates, in game content and bla for one game...it only goes to show what they might look like for gw2, then again i wasnt around in the early days of gw1, i came in two years after the fact.
belshazaarswrath
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If updates take forever - which i dont mind. whats guildwars gonna look like a year after gw2 is released? never mind that, whats guildwars 2 gonna look like? because if this is their way of doing updates, in game content and bla for one game...it only goes to show what they might look like for gw2, then again i wasnt around in the early days of gw1, i came in two years after the fact.
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Skyy High
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Originally Posted by a-kyle
If updates take forever - which i dont mind. whats guildwars gonna look like a year after gw2 is released? never mind that, whats guildwars 2 gonna look like? because if this is their way of doing updates, in game content and bla for one game...it only goes to show what they might look like for gw2, then again i wasnt around in the early days of gw1, i came in two years after the fact.
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When GW2 is released, the team will be bigger than the team for GW1 was. They've also had a much longer time to work with their tools (assuming that they managed to build the new engine similar enough to the old that some of the old tools were transferable), which should also increase output.
The current live team for GW1 has, iirc, 4 permanent members, and they still are getting us some really nice updates. ANet has ~200 people working on GW2 (again, iirc). Do the math.
own age myname
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If updates take forever - which i dont mind. whats guildwars gonna look like a year after gw2 is released? never mind that, whats guildwars 2 gonna look like? because if this is their way of doing updates, in game content and bla for one game...it only goes to show what they might look like for gw2, then again i wasnt around in the early days of gw1, i came in two years after the fact.
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Plus, GW1 is on life-support. Even with no updates, this game is still 100 times better then other MMOs out there.
Nechrond
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Originally Posted by own age myname
Even with no updates, this game is still 100 times better then other MMOs out there.
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-To be able to build a character of my own that suits my style and preferences
-To be able to team up with my IRL friends
-Hordes of AI foes to stomp
-Enemy players to outwit
-A fair chance against those players, even if I can't spend endless hours farming for gear
-Fighting as a means to an end, rather than the sole purpose of the game
So I play Alliance Battles. Farming up perfect gear is doable, and if I have to change my gear due to an update, I can AB with a PvP-char until I'm fully geared again.
majoho
Oh look it's the weekly "waaa no updates" thread, with the usual whiners.
Seriously your expectations are just ridiculous, this is an aging game we should be glad that we even get updates still.
Seriously your expectations are just ridiculous, this is an aging game we should be glad that we even get updates still.
The Josip
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Seriously your expectations are just ridiculous, this is an aging game we should be glad that we even get updates still.
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1. "Hey guys, we need more resources on GW2 and GW1 is old game so.." = OK. I've no problem with that. If ANet said they are not going to add more updates to the game I'd be ok with it. Sure, it would influence my gameplay but still.
2. "Hey guys, we will stop making frequent updates and do skill updates once every 2 months". = LIES AND DECEPTION. I've a problem with that.
If you don't have time, desire, and/or resources to make skill updates at least one every 2 months, then just say so, but don't pull my nose. And don't lie to me that you planned updates to be done last week but due to unforeseen circumstances they are still not finalized - these unforeseen circumstance seem to happen all the time.
I'm fully aware that often schedules are difficult to meet, but nowdays it looks like it's quite normal that you lie and deceive with the schedule so you gain some advantage in one way or another (keeping customers etc). Maybe to some of you ethics are irrelevant, but that's not my problem.
Gill Halendt
So, where did they ever claim we'd be getting another update in 2 months? Where did they ever claim we'd be getting monthly or even bi-monthly updates? That's always been a self-assumption, really...
This time, they just said they were working on a new balance update for Dervishes.
It is like 2 years that release dates of anything is "when it's done", so how people are disappointed every two months is beyond me.
This time, they just said they were working on a new balance update for Dervishes.
It is like 2 years that release dates of anything is "when it's done", so how people are disappointed every two months is beyond me.
fowlero
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So, where did they ever claim we'd be getting another update in 2 months? Where did they ever claim we'd be getting monthly or even bi-monthly updates? That's always been a self-assumption, really...
This time, they just said they were working on a new balance update for Dervishes. It is like 2 years that release dates of anything is "when it's done", so how people are disappointed every two months is beyond me. |
Source: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...C_new_schedule
It's no assumption, it's what we were told would be "aimed for". Sure it's no guarantee, but that's why people are expecting bimonthly.
To be honest to OP, compared to times before just be happy you know what to expect skill change wise. Who knows when it'll actually turn up as this bimonthly thing clearly hasn't worked out, if it annoys you that much just take a break come back when they arrive.
Quaker
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Originally Posted by a-kyle
I think I've seen a lot of threads on the Par and the Derv fixes that need to happen.
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But, I suppose ANet could tweak a few skills (like they did with the Mesmer) to keep people happy for a few weeks.
Gill Halendt
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Originally Posted by fowlero
"We’re going to slow things down by switching to a longer development cycle for each skill balance. We'll be shooting for a skill balance every other month instead of every month"
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Still, the last balance update happened 2 months ago (21st May), so even if it's out in early August, you'll hopefully be forgiving enough to allow a couple of weeks delay, will you?
belshazaarswrath
In my opinion isn't that long a time to wait...if you have other things in life to do besides play Guild Wars.
jazilla
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Originally Posted by The Josip
You're missing the point.
1. "Hey guys, we need more resources on GW2 and GW1 is old game so.." = OK. I've no problem with that. If ANet said they are not going to add more updates to the game I'd be ok with it. Sure, it would influence my gameplay but still. 2. "Hey guys, we will stop making frequent updates and do skill updates once every 2 months". = LIES AND DECEPTION. I've a problem with that. If you don't have time, desire, and/or resources to make skill updates at least one every 2 months, then just say so, but don't pull my nose. And don't lie to me that you planned updates to be done last week but due to unforeseen circumstances they are still not finalized - these unforeseen circumstance seem to happen all the time. I'm fully aware that often schedules are difficult to meet, but nowdays it looks like it's quite normal that you lie and deceive with the schedule so you gain some advantage in one way or another (keeping customers etc). Maybe to some of you ethics are irrelevant, but that's not my problem. |
majoho
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^this is correct majoho. i am not upset about the lack of updates as much as I am upset about being told when updates are going to happen and then when they are supposed to happen....nothing.
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jazilla
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Originally Posted by majoho
As it has already been been stated here they said "shooting for bi-monthly updates" that's not a promise in any way, that's just what they are aiming for.
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Vlad S
Wait, so ppl are expecting updates on para and derv?
... about time...
... about time...
fowlero
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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt
"We'll be shooting for a skill balance every other month": that sounds simply like an intention, not a strict planning.
Still, the last balance update happened 2 months ago (21st May), so even if it's out in early August, you'll hopefully be forgiving enough to allow a couple of weeks delay, will you? |
I couldn't care less about hurrying along derv and para skill changes, as they normally end up overpowered and lead to something broken.
Gill Halendt
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As i said in my original post, it's not strict planning. I was pointing where the bimonthly comes from seeing as your post suggested it had never been mentioned by anet.
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"Bi-monthly" doesn't imply an update every 60 days as people here seem to expect. Developing is not a process you can set in such a restrictive schedule. If the update isn't ready, it simply isn't, so what if 2 months have passed?
Lanier
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Well, even so, they never said they had a strict rule of an update every 2 months, the bi-monthly schedule being the best-effort they were aiming at ("We'll be shooting at..."). They basically said not to expect an update each month anymore, but more reasonably, one "every other month".
"Bi-monthly" doesn't imply an update every 60 days as people here seem to expect. Developing is not a process you can set in such a restrictive schedule. If the update isn't ready, it simply isn't, so what if 2 months have passed? |
Ka Tet
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As i said in my original post, it's not strict planning. I was pointing where the bimonthly comes from seeing as your post suggested it had never been mentioned by anet.
I couldn't care less about hurrying along derv and para skill changes, as they normally end up overpowered and lead to something broken. |
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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt
Well, even so, they never said they had a strict rule of an update every 2 months, the bi-monthly schedule being the best-effort they were aiming at ("We'll be shooting at..."). They basically said not to expect an update each month anymore, but more reasonably, one "every other month".
"Bi-monthly" doesn't imply an update every 60 days as people here seem to expect. Developing is not a process you can set in such a restrictive schedule. If the update isn't ready, it simply isn't, so what if 2 months have passed? |
Arduin
This has been going on ever since EotN. Anet promises something, they don't deliver, people get upset.
Just suck it up and play the damn game. Or not, if you don't like it any more.
Just suck it up and play the damn game. Or not, if you don't like it any more.
Ellix Cantero
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Originally Posted by a-kyle
If updates take forever - which i dont mind. whats guildwars gonna look like a year after gw2 is released? never mind that, whats guildwars 2 gonna look like? because if this is their way of doing updates, in game content and bla for one game...it only goes to show what they might look like for gw2, then again i wasnt around in the early days of gw1, i came in two years after the fact.
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Morphy
They released an update today so they fitted the bimonthly schedule.
(Datura)
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Originally Posted by The Josip
You're missing the point.
1. "Hey guys, we need more resources on GW2 and GW1 is old game so.." = OK. I've no problem with that. If ANet said they are not going to add more updates to the game I'd be ok with it. Sure, it would influence my gameplay but still. 2. "Hey guys, we will stop making frequent updates and do skill updates once every 2 months". = LIES AND DECEPTION. I've a problem with that. If you don't have time, desire, and/or resources to make skill updates at least one every 2 months, then just say so, but don't pull my nose. And don't lie to me that you planned updates to be done last week but due to unforeseen circumstances they are still not finalized - these unforeseen circumstance seem to happen all the time. I'm fully aware that often schedules are difficult to meet, but nowdays it looks like it's quite normal that you lie and deceive with the schedule so you gain some advantage in one way or another (keeping customers etc). Maybe to some of you ethics are irrelevant, but that's not my problem. |
Maybe you should go to arena net and offer to be their life coach/guardian. You could make everything predictable for the live team and prevent sickness, death and bad luck too. You could tech them how to not be liars and show them what having ethics really means.
belshazaarswrath
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Maybe you should go to arena net and offer to be their life coach/guardian. You could make everything predictable for the live team and prevent sickness, death and bad luck too. You could tech them how to not be liars and show them what having ethics really means. |
StormDragonZ
Remember, when the majority of people want new content, we get skill balances, changes and overall gameplay construction at a slow to moderate rate. When the majority of people want skill balances, changes and overall gameplay construction, we get told it will take an extended amount of time, so be patient. When we ask when something is coming, the only answers we get are other people telling us to GO RED ENGINE ourselves.
Ultimately, we should talk about more content ideas in order to lessen the chances of chaos, doom and lots of nasty, evil trolls.
Ultimately, we should talk about more content ideas in order to lessen the chances of chaos, doom and lots of nasty, evil trolls.