Pheonix Won't Spawn

AkaneMizuki

AkaneMizuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2010

A/W

I just recently got KoaBD and I went into my hall and the pheonix didn't spawn

In my hall I got
-max titles displayed
-5 elite armors
-20 minis
-5 statues
-2 destroyer weaps(People say this doesn't need to be maxed)

I was sure I went in there alone, I'm in account view,and I finished EOTN,

What else am I missing? O_o

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Quote:
Originally Posted by wiki
Either having at least "Kind of a Big Deal" and all five monuments filled (maximum amount of items displayed in personal or account-wide view) or achieving "People Know Me".

* Evidence suggests that the bird can still spawn even if these conditions are not met. The reason for this exception has not been fully explained; current theories suggest it might happen after displaying a large number of miniatures or armor sets.
Quote:
Originally Posted by other wiki
One of the following:

* The character has achieved the rank of "People Know Me (2)" in the Kind Of A Big Deal title track.
* The character has achieved the rank of "Kind Of A Big Deal (1)" in the Kind Of A Big Deal title track and has a "full" Hall of Monuments in personal or account-wide view.
Seems to suggest you do need all destroyer weapons, or at least have a large number of minis or armor sets.

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

E/

I got the Pheonix a couple days ago. What I read, was 9 Destroyer weapons is needed. I will track it down again.

Quote:
Full Hall of Monuments

The Hall of Monuments is considered "full" when each monument is displaying the maximum number of viewable submissions.

The maximum number of viewable submissions at each monument are:

* 20 Miniatures in the Monument of Devotion
* 5 Heroes or Pets in the Monument of Fellowship
* 5 PvE or PvP Titles or Achievements in the Monument of Honor
* 5 Elite Armor sets in the Monument of Resilience
* 11 Destroyer or Tormented weapons in the Monument of Valor

Completing the above, of course, does not stop you from adding as many entries to each Monument as you like, the older submissions will simply go out of view. You can "rearrange" the monument to see them again.

A Full Hall of Monuments will improve the appearance of the Monument of Honor by 1 rank, allowing you to obtain the Rainbow Phoenix at rank 1 of Kind Of A Big Deal instead of rank 2.

Anomaly! For the purposes of acquiring the Phoenix, the Monument of Valor need only have 9 weapons (instead of the maximum 11).

ad5631

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

honestly, unlocking it in the menagerie is probably the easiest way to access a pheonix....sure u need 80k balth faction but realistically, its easy to do

JackSchit

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2008

Tears Of The Ascended [ToA]

Me/

I got my phoenix without 9 weapons in the HoM. If I recall correctly I had maybe 2 dest and was going to dedicate my second or third torm weap. Had 5-6 armors, 20 minis, roughly 8 heroes/pets and a large number of titles. Wasn't expecting to see the phoenix there because I thought you could only get at r2 KoaBD

Skiasca

Skiasca

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

Devon, uk

RoC

R/

Guild wars Wiki:
Quote:
Spawns in the Hall of Monuments as long as the following conditions are met:

-Having all four Monumental Tapestries added to player's Hall of Monuments.
Eye of the North complete.
-Either having at least "Kind of a Big Deal" and all five monuments filled (maximum amount of items displayed in personal or account-wide view) or achieving "People Know Me".
-Evidence suggests that the bird can still spawn even if these conditions are not met. The reason for this exception has not been fully explained; current theories suggest it might happen after displaying a large number of miniatures or armor sets.
-Entering the area without any other players, heroes or henchmen.
I just got r2 'People know me'. seemed the easiest at the time.

hattara

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Finland

Blinkie Ponie Armie [BPA]

R/

ad5631, in order to get 80k Balth faction, you first have to gain a total of fourteen PvP title ranks. That's... not exactly quick or easy.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Have you tried personal view? I think it is by character not account.

Celestina

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy View Post
Have you tried personal view? I think it is by character not account.
That's most likely the problem, when I got my pheonix all I needed was 10 maxed titles.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestina View Post
That's most likely the problem, when I got my pheonix all I needed was 10 maxed titles.
Umm, yeah, that is known and mentioned several times in the above posts. There are 2 different requirements, you only need one of the two. One is 10 max titles, the other is what this thread is about.

AkaneMizuki

AkaneMizuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2010

A/W

Well, Wiki says personal or account wise doesn't matter. However 1 of my 5 armor sets is from a separate character. So on personal view I only have 4/5 armor sets (I don't think this is the problem since I've seen people get it on account view). I'll try adding more to the weapons and see what happens.

Edit: My friend told me he got the bird with 3 destroyer weapons, i think this may vary for everyone, since some people get it at 9

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Yes well the important parts are bold

"Evidence suggests that the bird can still spawn even if these conditions are not met. The reason for this exception has not been fully explained; current theories suggest it might happen after displaying a large number of miniatures or armor sets."

So YMMV and randomness should be taken into account.

Anyway, I'd suggest getting 10 titles .

AkaneMizuki

AkaneMizuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2010

A/W

*sigh* I really hate title hunting. I guess I'll wait until they do more research into this.

New Theory: Is it possible, that you need to complete all 3 campaigns + eotn on that character?

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AkaneMizuki View Post
*sigh* I really hate title hunting. I guess I'll wait until they do more research into this.

New Theory: Is it possible, that you need to complete all 3 campaigns + eotn on that character?
I have completed 2 campaigns, P&F, Cartography one same 2, Capped elite skills same 2. EotN completed. That = KoBD (1) 6 maxed titles. 11 Achievements under Honor, 5 sets of armor on that same character. Statues of 5 heroes & 2 pet companions, 20 minis, 11 Destroyer weapons. Until a couple days ago, I had never entered HoM completely alone. Went in with no heroes and there it was. I went back out, changed to R 2nd, put on Charm, and now leveling my Pheonix.

AkaneMizuki

AkaneMizuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2010

A/W

Maybe just complete prof? I've yet to done that. Maybe that could be a possibility. As for weapons I've seen people get it from 2-11 so I think thats not the issue. I think there maybe some other subrequirement that people unknowingly fulfill. Because I'm testing this out with a friend, who got the bird on the bare MINIMUM. (5 armor, 5 hero statues, 3 weapons, 20 minis, max titles displayed) 5title KoaBD. If anyone can help contribute/counter theories that would be great

Update: Just beat prof, still no bird

Rebelor

Rebelor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

you also have to enter alone

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

I am standing in my HoM looking at the Phoenix. I only have three Destroyer weapons and no Torment ones. I am on account mode so there are at least five armors. But I have 22 titles so I am way past KoaBD.

I think if you just get "People Know Me" title level you will be all set. It will take longer but be cheaper than spending gold on more weapons.

AkaneMizuki

AkaneMizuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2010

A/W

Yes i know "People Know Me" works. However I'm trying to specifically define the requirements for the KoaBD.

AkaneMizuki

AkaneMizuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2010

A/W

Hey, guys thank you all for the help. I FINALLY! got the bird. My HoM had the above items , but when I added 2 more destroyer weapons, it finally spawned. Thanks again guys.

Spike Stritter

Spike Stritter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/

Legendary Skill Hunter + Legendary Guardian = 11 titles = pheonix.

Cheferos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

Probably old news by now but just to add another data point:

Wife just got KoaBD lvl 1 today (5 titles maxed). We had been slowly filling HoM in anticipation.

All monuments full display except weaps:

33 Total minis, including 23 common, 4 uncommon, 5 rare, 1 unique/green
5 Companion statues: Gwen, Black Moa, Imp Phoenix, Black Widow, one other
5 Honor statues displayed (have 10 total or so)
5 armor sets (same toon, not dif toons though don't know that it matters)
1 destroyer weap

Rainbow Phoenix was not there, but upon dedicating an Opressor weap, phoenix spawned. So only 2 weapons total.