Resource Sites

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

As many know there are several resource sites associated with GW. Ofc this one =D, wartower, and the wikis to name a few. Recently I have had an encounter, if u will, with an admin of PvX. I was met with the most tyranical expression that I have yet to encounter while being part of the GW community. Is this common to PvX? Has it become a hub of elitist bigotry?
I am very happy that Guru has not succome to this additude. TY admins for that.
What are some other resouce sites that may be beneficial to those looking for aid? Possibly ones with unbiased admins.

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

The GuildMag guys are pretty awesome, and their magazine is great. Definitely worth checking that out.

Glad you like it here.

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

PvX is pretty bad, on physway deep, an Admin changed my vote to sabotage the build, twice. So much about fairness, admins play god with that website.
Admins on guru are pretty awesome on the other hand. And JR beat me to GuildMag...

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I'm less than impressed with PvX - Half of the PvE "builds" on there consist of 4 or 5 skills with 3 or 4 empty spots for optional skills - even ones they rate as "Excellent." For a new / inexperienced player, finishing out that skill bar could vey easily turn that Excellent build to utter crap, even using the suggested skills given.

I don't know much about the politics over there, but too many people in-game use PvX as the be-all, end-all of GW build ratings and can't recognize a good/excellent build unless they've seen it on the wiki. I can't help but to think that the admins there are aware of that. (oooohhhh the power!)

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

It's what happens when you give people the authority to interpret rules and guidelines at their own discretion and pretend as though those interpretations are somehow representative of the community at large. It's also not about being fair it's about being right and wrong even when those concepts are irrelevant.

This happens in the real world too, it's called the government.

Nubarus

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

PxKs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
I'm less than impressed with PvX - Half of the PvE "builds" on there consist of 4 or 5 skills with 3 or 4 empty spots for optional skills - even ones they rate as "Excellent." For a new / inexperienced player, finishing out that skill bar could vey easily turn that Excellent build to utter crap, even using the suggested skills given.

I don't know much about the politics over there, but too many people in-game use PvX as the be-all, end-all of GW build ratings and can't recognize a good/excellent build unless they've seen it on the wiki. I can't help but to think that the admins there are aware of that. (oooohhhh the power!)
Oh so true, this is the reason I never join pug teams anymore, all they do is moan for not using a PvX build, lol.
Even in AB I use a none PvX assassin build, once I got seperated from my team and was cut off by 5 kurzicks, 3 warriors, 1 dervish and 1 ranger.
I beat all 5 in the fight and they call me a noob for using a self design build instead of the PvX PvP assassin build...........lmao
I looked at the build after the battle and if I would have used that build they would have ripped me to shreds.

belshazaarswrath

belshazaarswrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

AMP

Well PvX is a wiki after all...

It doesn't matter if people post bad builds or say something stupid here. Because someone will inevitably come say "bad build is bad" or "hey what you said is stupid, stupid." On a wiki things are presented in a different way.

Also many people on PvX suffer from a very deadly strain of Unwarranted Self Importance


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Originally Posted by Nubarus View Post
Oh so true, this is the reason I never join pug teams anymore, all they do is moan for not using a PvX build, lol.
That's bullshit. I've been pugging all kinds of things in WiK and no ones bitched at me or anyone else for not running shit on PvX.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Pvx it seems is going downhill - even with anets nerfs in last year the amount of new builds is pitifull.Unless either gw has died totally or very few people are sharing via pvx - probably more builds have been on guru in last month than pvx ( dont quote me ).
Why its gone downhill i cant say - could be pvx staff problems as op hints at or something else - just a shame to see what almost became a great site for builds change into a forgotten archive.

Ka Tet

Ka Tet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Pita Bread And Scud Missiles Ai[iiii]

Slightly off topic, but I see this as more of a reason to celebrate guru. Ty to the good folks of guru.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Of course, guildwarsguru is the best ever, but for a list (hopefully without broken links) of fansites here is the page on guildwars.com
http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Don't like PvX? Don't like the current fansites? Make your own.

Xiaquin

Xiaquin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2010

[aRIN]

R/

Agree with GuildMag, their July magazine issue was pretty awesome, just wish I had a better pc to deal with .pdf, but it was really well put together.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
I'm less than impressed with PvX - Half of the PvE "builds" on there consist of 4 or 5 skills with 3 or 4 empty spots for optional skills - even ones they rate as "Excellent."
Cannot be said enough times. Barrage, LR and two interrupts is not a frickin' build. It's not a recipe if you write down 4 ingredients to something and list 20 optional ones to finish it off.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

From experience, I can say PvX has quite the ... elitism.

HigherMinion

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

I think a big problem with it is most of the admin there don't care about the player-base of GW, because they don't even play. It's a massive trollfest with some builds on the side.

I think they'd be happier living in Encyclopedia Dramatica

Nubarus

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

PxKs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Don't like PvX? Don't like the current fansites? Make your own.
Or option number 2, don't go to PvX website and just ignore their elitist steaming pile of horseshit.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

There's also a site called GWOnline, which I think still exists, but I haven't been there in a long time.
And, speaking a Guru admins - references to other fan sites have been deleted on here in the past, so you may never even see this.....

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker View Post
And, speaking a Guru admins - references to other fan sites have been deleted on here in the past, so you may never even see this.....
orly?

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Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

You must be getting us confused with other fansites, Quaker. Here on Guru we have never deleted references to other fan sites.

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker View Post
There's also a site called GWOnline, which I think still exists, but I haven't been there in a long time.
Googled. Unless you're talking about incgamers the only other one I can find with that name is http://gwonline.com/ and I don't think it's got anything to do with the game

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/ aka GWOnline - see?

(Heh, couple of names there I recognise in their lore forum...)

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

That "no mention" rumor has been around forever, yet in four years of posting on guru, I've never seen a post removed for mentioning another fansite. Keep in mind that guru has always had a Rules list and they stick to that list. No mod is allowed to make up his/her own rules.

And, the guru Home page has a link to a fansite list under Community Links. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...inks-id175.php

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/ aka GWOnline - see?

(Heh, couple of names there I recognise in their lore forum...)
that's why I first mentioned that one it's just I had never heard it called GWOnline

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Thanks for the info...I enjoyed checking out Guild Mag. It gave me the 411 on GW2. Still a shame that pvx has become spoiled due to a rotten few trying to dictate the site.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

The problem with build sites is because everything depends on a few peoples' opinions. If I am happy with my Defy Pain warrior build (which works well with my play style) then someone else's opinion shouldn't make me change to something that I don't like to use.

Originally, PVX was a good source for learning about skill synergy and how builds work. I would often recommend it as a place to start in your training in build formation. But not anymore as now it is (as stated by others) just a place to find bare bones bars that do not give you any idea of how they are supposed to work or why they are better than other builds.

If you are looking for info on GW2 visit that guru http://www.guildwars2guru.com