How to explain this...
How many of you have say 100 minipets dedicated in your hall, yet no room for them all in your inventory? What if you could dedicate them, and of course be able to sell the dedicated version, but if you do not have them anymore in your inventory anymore, wouldn't it be ok to run to you hall, and get a copy of the minipet you have dedicated, but this one is NON-TRADEABLE. This pretty much makes us able to have quite a few favored pets, but not have to sacrifice all the inventory/storage space to keep all of them.
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Dedicated Minipet Re-Acquisition
Rekliss
Hyperventilate
I've said this would be a good idea for a long time. Make an NPC like the hat trader in the HoM.
Lithril Ashwalker
i agree that it would be nice to reaquire dedicated minipets however it will throw people off whom are trying to sell SINGLE ded minis...theyd have to somehow check if they were DOUBLE DED. however if there was a way to have a panel much like the (show headpiece/show costume) for the dedicated minipets u have in your HoM without having the mini in your inventory it will be a different story, but youd have to have already dedicated that particular miniature. this way theyd not have to have it in inventory, people can still sell dedicated minis the old fashioned way, they can ded them still in order to keep their numbers of minis to show & prices wont fluctuate.
that is a great idea. if u throw this in your idea im sure others would agree sometimes the one inventory slot is everything.
remember the bottom right inward area of the inventory is empty for another"show THIS OR THAT" button...
/signed with edits.
that is a great idea. if u throw this in your idea im sure others would agree sometimes the one inventory slot is everything.
remember the bottom right inward area of the inventory is empty for another"show THIS OR THAT" button...
/signed with edits.
Lord Dagon
im preety sure this has been discussed and /agreed to by alot of ppl before and i said it once and im going to say it again... /signed.
i mean really who wants to have to get an alt JUST for mini pets? i know i had to do that. So yea /signed in every single possible way i can.
i mean really who wants to have to get an alt JUST for mini pets? i know i had to do that. So yea /signed in every single possible way i can.
Bristlebane
Just call the non-tradeable pets for something else to separate them from dedicated.
Personal Minipet? Like, Personal Jungle troll minipet ?
in anyway,
/signed
Personal Minipet? Like, Personal Jungle troll minipet ?
in anyway,
/signed
SkekSister
Just don't allow them to be placed in the trade window.
/signed
/signed
snowman relic
no they sold them they dont get to play with the mini's anymore /notsigned
Stop The Storm
also /notsigned
price of dedicated high end minis would drop significantly
price of dedicated high end minis would drop significantly
Grumpy Bear
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Originally Posted by Stop The Storm
also /notsigned
price of dedicated high end minis would drop significantly |
Its like having a Panda, dedicating it, selling it on and then still being able to get it out. Doesn't seem fair to me.
snowman relic
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Bear
^This.
Its like having a Panda, dedicating it, selling it on and then still being able to get it out. Doesn't seem fair to me. |
Targren
As someone who just had to start a SECOND mule for just minis... /signed
The "economy" argument is bogus, since high-end minis don't affect the economy in any meaningful way, they just get shuffled around between the same tiny percentage of the population.
The "economy" argument is bogus, since high-end minis don't affect the economy in any meaningful way, they just get shuffled around between the same tiny percentage of the population.
Chrissie Quickdraw
Someone making/sacrificing extra storage to keep his/her dedicated pets isn't going to sell them, so let's change the idea a little bit.
Make it like the menagerie/ranger pets work. If you want to store the dedicated pet for later use, turn it in to an npc. So it will disappear from your inventory after you showed it to the npc. This npc should only accept dedicated mini's ofc.
After this is done you can get nontradeable versions of it on all your accounts characters, personal mini's or whatever.
This way everyone keeps the choice, sell your ded pets or make them eternally useable for your account without having to waste allot of space.
This I'd /sign for.
Make it like the menagerie/ranger pets work. If you want to store the dedicated pet for later use, turn it in to an npc. So it will disappear from your inventory after you showed it to the npc. This npc should only accept dedicated mini's ofc.
After this is done you can get nontradeable versions of it on all your accounts characters, personal mini's or whatever.
This way everyone keeps the choice, sell your ded pets or make them eternally useable for your account without having to waste allot of space.
This I'd /sign for.
Stop The Storm
alot of effort for something that aint broken and dont need fixing
how about a DwG nerf to bump armbrace prices back up
how about a DwG nerf to bump armbrace prices back up
Mintha Syl
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Bear
Its like having a Panda, dedicating it, selling it on and then still being able to get it out. Doesn't seem fair to me.
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If you want to make money from the mini but you're having it around anyway isn't right.
But as I see the inventory issue I'd second something like this:
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Originally Posted by Chrissie Quickdraw
Make it like the menagerie/ranger pets work. If you want to store the dedicated pet for later use, turn it in to an npc. So it will disappear from your inventory after you showed it to the npc. This npc should only accept dedicated mini's ofc.
After this is done you can get nontradeable versions of it on all your accounts characters, personal mini's or whatever. This way everyone keeps the choice, sell your ded pets or make them eternally useable for your account without having to waste allot of space. |
Shadowhaze
/signed
I like my minis. Have to keep most on another char because of space issues.
I like my minis. Have to keep most on another char because of space issues.
Horace Slughorn
not signed.
get a storage char + unique/rare minis should belong to 1 owner
get a storage char + unique/rare minis should belong to 1 owner
Morphy
/signed if they make it so that the acquired minipet can't be sold.
Kerwyn Nasilan
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Originally Posted by Grumpy Bear
^This.
Its like having a Panda, dedicating it, selling it on and then still being able to get it out. Doesn't seem fair to me. |
So you can dedicate it and have a dedicated version to sell, or you can double dedicate it and get unlimited "Personal" pets. So you cant sell and then get more.
Rekliss
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Originally Posted by Targren
As someone who just had to start a SECOND mule for just minis... /signed
The "economy" argument is bogus, since high-end minis don't affect the economy in any meaningful way, they just get shuffled around between the same tiny percentage of the population. |
Sparks Of Fire
Computer/console games inventory space management is a difficult issue for most players....GW included.
I welcome any way to reduce items with limited use without absolute loss of the items for future use.
/signed
I welcome any way to reduce items with limited use without absolute loss of the items for future use.
/signed
Grumpy Bear
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Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan
I think the idea is that if you double dedicate it you don't get to keep a regular dedicated version.
So you can dedicate it and have a dedicated version to sell, or you can double dedicate it and get unlimited "Personal" pets. So you cant sell and then get more. |
Personally, I don't see why people need to have so many minis. I dedicate mine then trash them..
N I T E Stalker
i like the idea... but then again i agree with what the people who didn't 'sign' say..
not signed.
not signed.
Shayne Hawke
This is a great way to essentially double the existence of every single minipet, and I see that as screwing with their prices horridly, especially at the higher end.
If you want to have a hundred pets available for you to display when you can only have one out at a time, get along with carrying a hundred pets with you like you have been. If you sold or gave away your minipet, I don't see why you should have the chance to keep the ability to show it off.
If you want to have a hundred pets available for you to display when you can only have one out at a time, get along with carrying a hundred pets with you like you have been. If you sold or gave away your minipet, I don't see why you should have the chance to keep the ability to show it off.
Bristlebane
As an alternative to OP's idea:
How about...
(drum rolls)
Mini Pet Storage Tab!
To simplify it, it would be limited to dedicated minipets, 1 per slot.
How about...
(drum rolls)
Mini Pet Storage Tab!
To simplify it, it would be limited to dedicated minipets, 1 per slot.
reaper with no name
Not having the mini is the price you pay for selling it.
/notsigned
I would support Bristlebane's idea, however.
/notsigned
I would support Bristlebane's idea, however.
Shadowhaze
A mini storage tab is good.
More of a storage option, at least it is for me, and not a having after selling thing. I don't deal in uber rare minis so
More of a storage option, at least it is for me, and not a having after selling thing. I don't deal in uber rare minis so
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Originally Posted by Targren
As someone who just had to start a SECOND mule for just minis... /signed
The "economy" argument is bogus, since high-end minis don't affect the economy in any meaningful way, they just get shuffled around between the same tiny percentage of the population. |
As someone who WAS(I got bored with how easy it was and switched to computer science) a Economics major I say your wrong
on that note
/not signed
The Drunkard
You do not need minipets to finish the game, they are only accessories. Like all other accessories in GW they take up storage slots, and it is the player's choice to decide what they want to put within the limited space offered per account. I don't see why Anet should bother with offering extra storage but restricting it to only minipets.
There are a few alternatives if you cannot find space for minis: buy more chars/slots, buy more storage slots, get another account, or sell off the things you don't want in storage.
/notsigned
There are a few alternatives if you cannot find space for minis: buy more chars/slots, buy more storage slots, get another account, or sell off the things you don't want in storage.
/notsigned
Lithril Ashwalker
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
This is a great way to essentially double the existence of every single minipet, and I see that as screwing with their prices horridly, especially at the higher end.
If you want to have a hundred pets available for you to display when you can only have one out at a time, get along with carrying a hundred pets with you like you have been. If you sold or gave away your minipet, I don't see why you should have the chance to keep the ability to show it off. |
even i suggested having a drop down pane to pick a mini without being in your HoM or in town or even storage to pick which one u can take out without taking up storage space or your inventory...READ and since when do people care about the price of minis or whatever, as years go by or new events come along they'll inflate anyway. if an ectos or armbraces inflate in price don't you think things bought with ectos will increase in price too...get your priorities straight dude...they're have been several thread of why someone doenst want something done because it'll reduce or raise prices...3 words..."GET OVER IT". itll happen anyway. its amazing to see that when a great idea to keep people interested in the game comes along someone that cares about their pocket gets it overwritten/closed.
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Originally Posted by Lithril Ashwalker
if you payed attention to what others have suggested and saw that they suggested where the ones u get back aren't able to trade ud see that...
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I go pick up a panda...and dedicate it...
Then I go sell it...
I can still use it...and that person has a copy...
Therefore 2 can be displayed through the existence of one pet.
This is pretty much the equivalent of there being 2 pets
Another way to look at it....
The guy dedicates his panda...then sells it...
He can still use it...so...what did he loose?...so basically that guy just got money for nothing
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I feel I should note...I fully support mini storage though
Essence Snow
While your at it.....Let me sell my customized weapons too and get a copy back that I can use, but not sell.
I agree however with a mini keeper npc...just not the selling/copy part.
/not signed
I agree however with a mini keeper npc...just not the selling/copy part.
/not signed
Spiritz
We see a problem here - and its economy and ppl saying minis do or dont affect it.
If im wrong then please excuse me but i always though the Economy is anything thats traded.
High end minis cost ectos or ambraces - and you need to purchase or farm them ( most probably purchased in some form ) .So mr X selling a panda gets paid by mr Y who spend money on ectos to buy the mini and therefore affecting the economy.Ectos rise in price due to demand etc.
Then mr X has x ectos which he may then spend getting some rare weapons etc and therefore putting the ectos back into the economy.
1 thing i cant work out is as theres always people buying/selling ectos on the player market - how the hell does the prices flux via rare mats npc ?
Anet aways stated for a long time that it wasnt viable to add extra storage for some things as it would amount to more data being stored and tho they did apply more storage panes and an equipment bag - if they did dupe pets then the arguement again arises of more pets meaning more space needed on server/database.Which ever way you look at it - minipets npc has to store the data of what you`ve given him , thousands of replicated ded minis would then flood the market ( each original mini has 1 replicated ded mini ) - prices drop obviously then you have the problems of unwanted minis which no1 wants to buy and eventually players binning minis so they can have space again.
Make minis untradable ? no way , high end minis tho not many people can afford them - would become a status symbol - look i have a panda and you dont ... you can see my point.At least all players can have the dream of maybe one day being able to afford a high end mini.
Most players it seems is only after greed and cash and normal players who collect pets not for their worth nor status but as a collectable item even tho they serve no real ingame purpose.My guild has a few mini collectors in and we dont go around bragging who has what - we may show our minis in gh for others to see but only at their request if they havnt seen one before - its just a mini at the end of the day an thats all.
Do innocent players sell ectos to npc even tho you can hardly miss players in main outposts selling them.
If im wrong then please excuse me but i always though the Economy is anything thats traded.
High end minis cost ectos or ambraces - and you need to purchase or farm them ( most probably purchased in some form ) .So mr X selling a panda gets paid by mr Y who spend money on ectos to buy the mini and therefore affecting the economy.Ectos rise in price due to demand etc.
Then mr X has x ectos which he may then spend getting some rare weapons etc and therefore putting the ectos back into the economy.
1 thing i cant work out is as theres always people buying/selling ectos on the player market - how the hell does the prices flux via rare mats npc ?
Anet aways stated for a long time that it wasnt viable to add extra storage for some things as it would amount to more data being stored and tho they did apply more storage panes and an equipment bag - if they did dupe pets then the arguement again arises of more pets meaning more space needed on server/database.Which ever way you look at it - minipets npc has to store the data of what you`ve given him , thousands of replicated ded minis would then flood the market ( each original mini has 1 replicated ded mini ) - prices drop obviously then you have the problems of unwanted minis which no1 wants to buy and eventually players binning minis so they can have space again.
Make minis untradable ? no way , high end minis tho not many people can afford them - would become a status symbol - look i have a panda and you dont ... you can see my point.At least all players can have the dream of maybe one day being able to afford a high end mini.
Most players it seems is only after greed and cash and normal players who collect pets not for their worth nor status but as a collectable item even tho they serve no real ingame purpose.My guild has a few mini collectors in and we dont go around bragging who has what - we may show our minis in gh for others to see but only at their request if they havnt seen one before - its just a mini at the end of the day an thats all.
Do innocent players sell ectos to npc even tho you can hardly miss players in main outposts selling them.
mage767
Space issue:
Save undedicated minipet in gh as dedicated....already happens, but the minipet should disappear from your inventory....signed
Pick dedicated minipet from gh ....signed
Make 'copy' of dedicated pet.....unsigned
Utility issue:
Minipet should pick up coins and gold drops....signed
Minipet should provide combat bonuses (etc: fire djinn offers double bonuses: +20 vs fire for all party members, but only one pet allowed per team in any instance)....signed
Save undedicated minipet in gh as dedicated....already happens, but the minipet should disappear from your inventory....signed
Pick dedicated minipet from gh ....signed
Make 'copy' of dedicated pet.....unsigned
Utility issue:
Minipet should pick up coins and gold drops....signed
Minipet should provide combat bonuses (etc: fire djinn offers double bonuses: +20 vs fire for all party members, but only one pet allowed per team in any instance)....signed
Kook~NBK~
/not signed. UNLESS they revert back to the original mechanic of Customizing mini-pets that are dedicated to the HoM.
/signed for mini-pet storage panes.
/signed for mini-pet storage panes.
fowlero
I'd agree if you were to change the system you've suggested slightly.
That instead of a non tradeable version, when you dedicate a pet you get the option of him being "immortalised" or whatever sounds best and he takes the pet too.
Then at any other time you can go back and get the dedicated pet back, and repeat process if you don't want it in storage etc.
But it's just a twisted version of pet storage, which i doubt we'll see as it's been asked for since their conception.
That instead of a non tradeable version, when you dedicate a pet you get the option of him being "immortalised" or whatever sounds best and he takes the pet too.
Then at any other time you can go back and get the dedicated pet back, and repeat process if you don't want it in storage etc.
But it's just a twisted version of pet storage, which i doubt we'll see as it's been asked for since their conception.
To Chicken To Die
Same toughts about the mini storage tab. Great idea since mini's are growing in numbers every year.
Maybe someone at the dev team might make it a ingame purchase in the GW shop just like the expension tabs so they can make more money so they can hire some more people for a year to work on a new campaign..... you know.
Maybe someone at the dev team might make it a ingame purchase in the GW shop just like the expension tabs so they can make more money so they can hire some more people for a year to work on a new campaign..... you know.
Lithril Ashwalker
wow guys didn't know my mini tab in inventory was such a great idea. but i see what ur saying about the mini ded duping. i didn't mean it to be ded minis be duped if u already have one, im saying make it in your tab to SHOW ANY ded minipet u already have, which in turn makes ded minis unded again...reverting them back. doing this on reverting the minis back to unded will however increase ecto prices temporarily that way the newly ded minis are in your hall and then in your "MINI TAB" and everyone has a chance to ded them. once added to your HOM they become dedicated and are still able to sell as undedicated which in turn can be READDED to someone's HOM making all minis unded ...
1. get unded kanaxai
2. put it in HOM
3. sell it again unded(not changing any prices the more its sold and used)
4. open the MINI TAB and show off your previously sold HOM mini kanaxai
people still make money for selling(or allowing) their minis to be put in HoM
still get to take them out and show off in towns etc that are allowed to this day...
save space in inventory and storage and keep making money as u can from the minis to this day.
/signed for my idea:P
1. get unded kanaxai
2. put it in HOM
3. sell it again unded(not changing any prices the more its sold and used)
4. open the MINI TAB and show off your previously sold HOM mini kanaxai
people still make money for selling(or allowing) their minis to be put in HoM
still get to take them out and show off in towns etc that are allowed to this day...
save space in inventory and storage and keep making money as u can from the minis to this day.
/signed for my idea:P
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Originally Posted by Lithril Ashwalker
1. get unded kanaxai
2. put it in HOM 3. sell it again unded(not changing any prices the more its sold and used) 4. open the MINI TAB and show off your previously sold HOM mini kanaxai |
Your making it worse...
Mintha Syl
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Originally Posted by Lithril Ashwalker
1. get unded kanaxai
2. put it in HOM 3. sell it again unded(not changing any prices the more its sold and used) 4. open the MINI TAB and show off your previously sold HOM mini kanaxai |
To Chicken To Die
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Originally Posted by Lithril Ashwalker
wow guys didn't know my mini tab in inventory was such a great idea. but i see what ur saying about the mini ded duping. i didn't mean it to be ded minis be duped if u already have one, im saying make it in your tab to SHOW ANY ded minipet u already have, which in turn makes ded minis unded again...reverting them back. doing this on reverting the minis back to unded will however increase ecto prices temporarily that way the newly ded minis are in your hall and then in your "MINI TAB" and everyone has a chance to ded them. once added to your HOM they become dedicated and are still able to sell as undedicated which in turn can be READDED to someone's HOM making all minis unded ...
1. get unded kanaxai 2. put it in HOM 3. sell it again unded(not changing any prices the more its sold and used) 4. open the MINI TAB and show off your previously sold HOM mini kanaxai people still make money for selling(or allowing) their minis to be put in HoM still get to take them out and show off in towns etc that are allowed to this day... save space in inventory and storage and keep making money as u can from the minis to this day. /signed for my idea:P |
Why screw up a nice idea
It's simple once dedicated you can never unded them again NEVER
Mini's do not duplicate
Once you sell it you can never EVER display it again untill you buy one again.
Rare mini's are rare for a reason if you like it or not