Battle for Lions Arch is blowing my head off, help.

I'm about to give up on this.

Vanquished all 3 continents, have the Eternal Guardian title. Did Slaver's on my own several times H/H'ing. I have experience in this game and consider myself a good player, but this quest is proving to be nigh-impossible, even in normal mode.

I'm H/H'ing it with the following setup:

Myself, warrior - An endurance scythe build with SY! has been the build that gave me the best results so far.
Gwen, with Panic and the standard domination skills and a few interrupts.
Livia as MM.
Last slot I leave it for Talkhora, a standard WoH build with Aegies and PS thrown in.
Henchies, I take Menhlo for the hard rez and the necro henchie for the blood ritual. Other than that, they're completely useless.

My problem is that after Confessor Isaiah dies, I get overwhelmed so badly that it's a lost cause.

Facing mobs 5-8 times larger than my party that will insta-kill everything that gets in range is completely mindnumbing. When I have Livia alive with some minions they act as meat shield, so I have a slight chance of survival there but if she dies, than it's almost impossible to regain momentum at that part of the quest. The few times I managed to get to the part where mobs are entirely Jade constructs and get 20 Elementalists at once, my whole party gets spiked to oblivion before I even have the change to get within melee range.

Tried multiple team builds, but none of them really worked for me so far. Spiritway had the most sucess, but I feel that doing this without Gwen and Panic is completely impossible at the very least when Jade mobs start spawning.

Anyone have any tips of any kind? Positioning, some builds that might be better suited, WHATEVER at all...

Help! >.< Run two players, and six discordway heroes, and pop a conset. Steamrolled them all with 0 casualties.

Run two players, and six discordway heroes, and pop a conset. Steamrolled them all with 0 casualties. That's as useful as saying "pay a runner", especially since you can't run 8-man teams in BLA.

Run two players, and six discordway heroes, and pop a conset. Steamrolled them all with 0 casualties. ? LA has a party of 6?

I did it on 4 of my 6 toons with a full party of humans. The other 2 were with just one other player and heroes.

It is a toughie - heres how I H/Hed it in NM:

1) Start off down at the main square, the trick is to retreat a little bit every couple of waves as the NPCs around you get killed.

2) One trick is to put your Heroes up on the ridge with the archers. This is particularly good with spirits as they can get a nice good range on them and be relatively safe from melee.

3) As you retreat try to ball the enemies at choke points and take them down with AoE (I was using a scythe ranger and then my SoS spirit Rit had splinter and ancestors' rage, lots of tasty AoE). Good places to do this are the stairs, first from the main square to the fountain/statue square, and then the second set of stairs leading to the gate to the garrison.

4) Use decent heroes, with runes and good weapons. You need all the help you can get, and this really really helps. I used the following:

Myself as a Scythe Ranger. (Wounding Strike etc)
Xandra as a SoS rit (Signet of Souls, Bloodsong, Ancestors' Rage, Splinter Weapon, Painful Bond, Renewing Surge, Spirit Siphon, Death Pact Signet)
Olias as a AotL MM (Aura of the Lich, Animate Bone Minions, Death Nova, Foul Feast, Masocism, Putrid Bile, Signet of Lost Souls, Pure Was Mei Ling (sp?))
Vekk as a Ether Renewal Infuser (Infuse, Convert Hexes, Protective Spirit, Shield Guardian, Aegis, Aura of Restoration, Ether Renewal, Life Attunement)

Then a healer and the Mes hench. I wiped a couple of times, but the NPCs kept the mobs busy whilst I made my way back to the front. Thanks! I know it's late and most players have managed to complete this but this info helped me tremendously. Thanks again.

I duplicated the above Xandra (with Ssyn's Staff) , Livia instead of Olias as AotL MM and Jora with: Glyph of Energy, Savage Slash, Bull's Strike, Sever Artery, Gash, Endure Pain, Sun and Moon Slash, and "I Will Survive". Me as Pain Inverter, Splinter, Barrage, interrupt archer, muddy terrain and snow storm also thrown in. Did use a couple of Blue Rock Candies, rangers IMO are just too bloody slow in this game.

Towards the end I also got wiped a few times, but as you mention the NPCs helped. Not sure how she managed it, but Xandra actually ended the mission with +10?! Go figure.

Not sure how she managed it, but Xandra actually ended the mission with +10?! Go figure. Death Pact signet. It's pretty common for whatever hero you have carrying it to have +10% while the rest of your party is between -40% to -60%. The deaths that hero typically gets are from whoever they ressed dying within 120 seconds, not from enemies. Enemies give DP, death pact deaths don't.

Why Glyph of Energy on a warrior? The first two spells cost nothing is all and with only 25 energy it seems to help. I think I recall copying this from PvXwiki a while back, and it works well enough for PvE...

Jora with: Glyph of Energy, Savage Slash, Bull's Strike, Sever Artery, Gash, Endure Pain, Sun and Moon Slash, and "I Will Survive". Yeah, but there's no spells there...