I've been thinking about adding FOW armor to my hall of monuments but I'm not sure I can manage the time investment of farming UW/FoW and I don't have a lot of plat.
I've seen some posts about 5 drops an hour being high for UW runs. On average how many drop per run and per hour do you get?
Gut feeling estimates are great especially since I imagine there are quite a few regular ecto farmers in this subforum.
Ecto drop rates?
Lortext
vinceb9
Well if ur asking how much ectos an hour someone gets u might wanna be more specific. Like wich build u use and where u farm UW or ToPK. And all i can say is b4 the sf nerf i got about 9e an hour on 9 monsters in 2 min a run so now with only 6 il gues e/h is now also 6 but since i dont do it anymore i cant help ya further then this
WarcryOfTruth
Regardless of your build, ecto drop rate is the same, Bladed Aatxes have a 4% chance to drop ectos, Smite Crawlers have a 2% chance to drop them. Build, time of day, frequency of farming, all have no effect on it.
Lortext
I'll probably be running spirtspam FWIW.
I think my hope is that I'd get more than 1-2 ectos a run such that I would not be farming UW for months.
I think my hope is that I'd get more than 1-2 ectos a run such that I would not be farming UW for months.
mrseasonalt
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Originally Posted by WarcryOfTruth
Regardless of your build, ecto drop rate is the same, Bladed Aatxes have a 4% chance to drop ectos, Smite Crawlers have a 2% chance to drop them. Build, time of day, frequency of farming, all have no effect on it.
Im pretty sure ive read dev notes about Frequency of Farming having an effect
gerg-nad
There are a number of assumptions that you would have to make to estimate the frequency of ectos such as:
Drop rate only depend on creature killed
Drop rate does not depend on area of creature
Drop rates are not dependent on time (previous kills, independent)
So if drop rates only depend on creature and not on area the creature is killed in and the trials, number of kills, is independent (does not depend on previous kills), then a creature that gives 0.04 ectos per kill would give a long term average of about 4 ectos per 100 kills. So the faster you kill, the more ecto per time you would get.
If folks have data we can put some boundraries around estimates (p=0.04) as well as test hypothesis regarding assumptions, but I have not bothered to gather all the data necessary. Did this for some rapture farming way back in the day, but just now rarely if every play.
Drop rate only depend on creature killed
Drop rate does not depend on area of creature
Drop rates are not dependent on time (previous kills, independent)
So if drop rates only depend on creature and not on area the creature is killed in and the trials, number of kills, is independent (does not depend on previous kills), then a creature that gives 0.04 ectos per kill would give a long term average of about 4 ectos per 100 kills. So the faster you kill, the more ecto per time you would get.
If folks have data we can put some boundraries around estimates (p=0.04) as well as test hypothesis regarding assumptions, but I have not bothered to gather all the data necessary. Did this for some rapture farming way back in the day, but just now rarely if every play.
I Is Special
Ectos are not effected by how fast you kill creatrues (loot scaling) because it is a rare material.
Ghost Dog
I was going to do this a while ago, then i saw what warrior FoW armor looked like.
byteme!
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Originally Posted by mrseasonalt
Im pretty sure ive read dev notes about Frequency of Farming having an effect
That's around 2005-07...you are right but you're a few years late.
Jk Arrow
A "gut-feeling" estimate using spirit spam would be average of 2e per run, with a run being about 30 mins. It is on par with other farms equating to about 35k per hour. Probably not quite as high as festival farms.
People often forget that sometimes it's not best to farm what you want but to farm what is fastest to make money and buy what you want.
As a side, I would say more than half of the ectos I've had drop in the UW have come from Skele's so don't forget about killing those too.
Good luck.
People often forget that sometimes it's not best to farm what you want but to farm what is fastest to make money and buy what you want.
As a side, I would say more than half of the ectos I've had drop in the UW have come from Skele's so don't forget about killing those too.
Good luck.
gerg-nad
I find the antidotal evidence when a little effort of recording can estimate precisly what the rates are. On several occations on ledge farming in Tombs where you kill Terrorwebs and Banished Horsemen, I gather data to estimate the rate and also determine the confidence interval of that estimate.
Assuming a bernulli process so the rate follows a binomial distribution with independent trial for each creature I estimated the following:
N = 530 (overall sample size of deaths)
x = 14 (number of successes, ecto drops)
Test and CI for One Proportion
Sample X N Sample p 95% CI
1 14 530 0.026415 (0.014515, 0.043923)
So this shows the drop rate is 0.0264, just over 2.5%, and the 95% confidence interval suggests that it is no higher than 0.0439 and no lower than 0.0145.
If folks honestly provide the number of kills and the number of ectos gathered we can estimate the drop rate. As far as time goes, the faster you kill the faster you will get ecto.
Assuming a bernulli process so the rate follows a binomial distribution with independent trial for each creature I estimated the following:
N = 530 (overall sample size of deaths)
x = 14 (number of successes, ecto drops)
Test and CI for One Proportion
Sample X N Sample p 95% CI
1 14 530 0.026415 (0.014515, 0.043923)
So this shows the drop rate is 0.0264, just over 2.5%, and the 95% confidence interval suggests that it is no higher than 0.0439 and no lower than 0.0145.
If folks honestly provide the number of kills and the number of ectos gathered we can estimate the drop rate. As far as time goes, the faster you kill the faster you will get ecto.
looks nice eh?