New small HoM info!

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

when this guide drops, this will be one of the biggest bombshells in the history of gw

note, by bombshell I'm not implying good or bad, just the significance of it

Agar

Agar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

Angry Marine Fortress

[ZoS]

W/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
when this guide drops, this will be one of the biggest bombshells in the history of gw

note, by bombshell I'm not implying good or bad, just the significance of it
I wonder what will happen to the economy after that "bomb" hits the ground Ectopocalypse?

End

End

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agar View Post
I wonder what will happen to the economy after that "bomb" hits the ground Ectopocalypse?
I think really only torm weapons (and thereby armbraces and their subsidiaries) and minis will see a price change. All depending on whether they give extra worth to limited minis or not.


But of course...changing one part effects the whole outcome of the equation soooo who knows...

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

E/

Nah I don't see price changes happening. I'm sure that people, including me, who wanted GW2 goodies have filled their HoM's alrdy or are still doing so. I don't see all these people who don't care for it making a run on the HoM items now.

End

End

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
Nah I don't see price changes happening. I'm sure that people, including me, who wanted GW2 goodies have filled their HoM's alrdy or are still doing so. I don't see all these people who don't care for it making a run on the HoM items now.
I myself have been holding off on alot of hom stuff simply because I a) wasnt 100% sure I'd buy with the sorry state of ncsoft...however anet did a good job dealing with the hacking situation on their own and b)because I wasn't sure it would matter past having a full hall or whether some of these limited minis will count as just a mini or count as extra for being limited.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Oh man... super excited! I just wanna see what the rewards are and if there's anything I need to maximize.

Let the info come!

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

Quote:
I wonder what will happen to the economy after that "bomb" hits the ground Ectopocalypse?
I very much doubt there will be a effect on the GW market as most of us who cared about our hall of monuments have already gotten it filled.
Also with the info that a purple first year will most likely give you the same points as a purple asain mini, then i highly doubt you will be getting mini's skyrocketting in price

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

from what I gathered when the HoM was first introduced was more like what they are saying....A FULL monument---doesnt matter if its all white minis or all the uber rare only the exceptional rich can afford = the same amount of 'points'. Makes the most sense.
Just make sure to have the 20 minis, 5 armors et. al. and you will be fine (now the gwamm, that one I dont know about).
so finish it up with whatever-----

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Jesh people are acting like the point system is spending and not when you reach a certain number it unlocks set rewards and the highest reward may require the points from limited edition mini pets.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Quote:
Originally Posted by End View Post
I think really only torm weapons (and thereby armbraces and their subsidiaries) and minis will see a price change. All depending on whether they give extra worth to limited minis or not.
Remember it is the players that made said minis so pricy not Anet. I highly doubt any benefit of one mini over another. i.e. the guy with the mini Imp gets same deal as guy with mini Kanaxi.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
That's the only thing I'm concerned about. I already have minis, weapons, armors, titles, heroes, etc that can't be displayed cause I have the maximum amount that can be displayed up. So do we get credit for what is not displayed, but registered?
My bet would be on registration than display.

End

End

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Remember it is the players that made said minis so pricy not Anet. I highly doubt any benefit of one mini over another. i.e. the guy with the mini Imp gets same deal as guy with mini Kanaxi.
Indeed, they did however make them harder to obtain. Value has nothing to do with it...what does is if it is still obtainable from sources other then trading other people. I.E. Celestial minis will technically be obtainable in a few years...but thats irrelevant to this topic as the servers will most likely be shut down by then.

They new only releasing a few kanaxai's would make them one of the most valuable items in the game. Just like although I consider the cele mini's to be common. They are worth more then many regular mini's because they can't be obtained outside of trading.

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

E/

What's the deal with GWAMM anyway? You can't display it and it's bound to a character and not your account.
Let's say I get a hold of 30 titles on a char, display them, and then for some bizare reason delete my char.
All my titles will still be displayed and unlocked so give me points in the new point system. It doesn't matter if I have GWAMM or not, it's just for the shiny statue.
Besides, as a side note, lots of titles can be displayed without being maxed: lucky, unlucky, kurzick, zaishen ect.
They are displayed, so unlocked and it doesn't matter if they are max or not.

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
What's the deal with GWAMM anyway? You can't display it and it's bound to a character and not your account.
Let's say I get a hold of 30 titles on a char, display them, and then for some bizare reason delete my char.
All my titles will still be displayed and unlocked so give me points in the new point system. It doesn't matter if I have GWAMM or not, it's just for the shiny statue.
Besides, as a side note, lots of titles can be displayed without being maxed: lucky, unlucky, kurzick, zaishen ect.
They are displayed, so unlocked and it doesn't matter if they are max or not.
The GWAMM title track has an effect on the statue (The Beacon of Light) in the wall of the hall of monuments. It is located above the The Monument of "Honor." The further up the track you are, the more it seems to be protruding from the wall.

Also a full hall of monuments equates to a rank of that track because it to brings the statue out by one notch so to speak.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Honor%22

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoneys Rock View Post
The GWAMM title track has an effect on the statue (The Beacon of Light) in the wall of the hall of monuments. It is located above the The Monument of "Honor." The further up the track you are, the more it seems to be protruding from the wall.

Also a full hall of monuments equates to a rank of that track because it to brings the statue out by one notch so to speak.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Honor%22
I know, I got GWAMM myself. I just wanted to make clear that, in my opionion, it's false for some people to assume a link between having GWAMM and unlocking stuff in GW2.
For the simple reason that there is no way for GW2 to detect you have GWAMM, cause you can't display it.
That big statue is, such as GWAMM, character based and not account wide.
Besides it sounds fair that someone who has 15 titles on 2 different characters displayed should get the same things as someone with all 30 titles on 1 character.

Ah well we shall know soon enough

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MArcSinus View Post
I know, I got GWAMM myself. I just wanted to make clear that, in my opionion, it's false for some people to assume a link between having GWAMM and unlocking stuff in GW2.
For the simple reason that there is no way for GW2 to detect you have GWAMM, cause you can't display it.
That big statue is, such as GWAMM, character based and not account wide.
Besides it sounds fair that someone who has 15 titles on 2 different characters displayed should get the same things as someone with all 30 titles on 1 character.

Ah well we shall know soon enough
Most definitely, I'm pretty sure though as I think I read earlier in this thread, awards will be given points and you can spend x points on x rewards in the second game. Hell I won't be suprised if they just gave you a title in the second game that read:


MArcSinus
Related to Greatness (1)

MArcSinus

MArcSinus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Netherlands

Are We Friends [NLT]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoneys Rock View Post
Most definitely, I'm pretty sure though as I think I read earlier in this thread, awards will be given points and you can spend x points on x rewards in the second game. Hell I won't be suprised if they just gave you a title in the second game that read:


MArcSinus
Related to Greatness (1)
Now that, my friend, would be awsome.

I thought I came across a quote some time in the past were an Anet guy said that when you were badass in GW1 you will be badass again when you leave your GW2 HoM, so definitly something to look forward to!

A guide will come very soon.. Could still be like a month, by Anet's definition of time Nevetherless, I won't lose sight of the GW2 mainpage and twitter this week

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

I wonder what the mechanism is for linking your GW1 account to GW2. I hope it doesn't turn into a total shitstorm like when we redeemed the bonus storage pain. I have no clue what my Anet login is anymore.

StormX

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

Better be purely cosmetic or I will rage.

Dien

Dien

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

the great finnish republic

R/Me

Points?! AWESOMESAUCE

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormX View Post
Better be purely cosmetic or I will rage.
please be more than cosmetic just so i can watch this.

Edge Igneas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

Poland

Prices of diamonds, onyx, iron, and granite skyrocket. Gogogo!

Maybe they will give me a reason to finish GWAMM.


Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
from what I gathered when the HoM was first introduced was more like what they are saying....A FULL monument---doesnt matter if its all white minis or all the uber rare only the exceptional rich can afford = the same amount of 'points'. Makes the most sense.
Just make sure to have the 20 minis, 5 armors et. al. and you will be fine (now the gwamm, that one I dont know about).
so finish it up with whatever-----
This.

They will most likely give you these points just for filling each monument up. So if you've filled them up any way, you will most likely get those points. I doubt miniatures will have special value.

GWAMM will also likely have some kind of extra value, as that title in particular changes the visual appearance of the HoM statue.

Agar

Agar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

Angry Marine Fortress

[ZoS]

W/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Igneas View Post

GWAMM will also likely have some kind of extra value, as that title in particular changes the visual appearance of the HoM statue.
Actually rank 5 of the KOABD title with all the monuments filled gives you the max visual appearance so GWAMM is not needed

Vallen

Vallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jazilla View Post
please be more than cosmetic just so i can watch this.
Agreed

Do hope its stuff that cant be obtained any other way ^^ and is better than everything else obtainable in GW2 If you dont like it go get GWAMM in GW1 hehehe

Mouse at Large

Mouse at Large

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vallen View Post
Agreed

Do hope its stuff that cant be obtained any other way ^^ and is better than everything else obtainable in GW2 If you dont like it go get GWAMM in GW1 hehehe
Not gonna happen. My take is the best you will get is some eyecandy. Anet are not going to make GW1 players imba -v- new purchasers of GW2.

Just Sai

Just Sai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

aotearoa

Mo/

the only one that truly displays effort and character progress is honor.
any fool can slap down 20 white minis and a load of destroyer weps for aesthetic vanity.
its an rpg heading into a live world dragging its own history, HoM should reflect thus so.

e.g:heritage reward

Wynthyst

Wynthyst

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

Gems of Destiny

D/

I would tend to agree that at most it's going to be special skins, or armor that is not attainable by new gw2 players. Eyecandy without substantive gameplay advantage. They will be things that will clearly mark you as having "history".

I also don't believe they should make them attainable by new GW2 players.... period. This is OUR "bonus" for years of dedication and hard work, and I will be seriously disappointed if people who have never played a minute of Guild Wars will have the chance to "buy" these things... whatever they turn out to be.

damkel

damkel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynthyst View Post
This is OUR "bonus" for years of dedication and hard work...
Anet have time and time again said/showed how much they appreciate their fans. I think they'll give us some really nice surprises for when we first load up GW2.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynthyst View Post
I would tend to agree that at most it's going to be special skins, or armor that is not attainable by new gw2 players. Eyecandy without substantive gameplay advantage. They will be things that will clearly mark you as having "history".

I also don't believe they should make them attainable by new GW2 players.... period. This is OUR "bonus" for years of dedication and hard work, and I will be seriously disappointed if people who have never played a minute of Guild Wars will have the chance to "buy" these things... whatever they turn out to be.
I agree completely with this, then again there was the whole issue of the BMP...

Ildanach

Ildanach

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

Watchers of the Way

W/

If anyone did buy Guild Wars 1 for the hall of monument items in Guild Wars 2. It is not like the hall is filled for free, they would still have to work just as hard as old players to get the hall filled, so why not have it attainable for new players Wynthyst? Also what time frame classifies a new player?

I like the points idea, fill in so much, lets you buy such and such. I look forward to reading how it all works and what we can get.

Vallen

Vallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ildanach View Post
If anyone did buy Guild Wars 1 for the hall of monument items in Guild Wars 2. It is not like the hall is filled for free, they would still have to work just as hard as old players to get the hall filled, so why not have it attainable for new players Wynthyst? Also what time frame classifies a new player?

I like the points idea, fill in so much, lets you buy such and such. I look forward to reading how it all works and what we can get.
He means that he doesnt want players in GW2 to be able to attain these items who have never played GW1.

New players to GW1 now ofc everyone wants people to get as many bonus items as they can.

I do agree with Wyn, if people in GW2 can get these items without ever playing GW1, I would be very pieved off to say the least.

dsielschott

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

KURZ

W/Mo

glowing aura..... with your GWAMM pts.... because well you are the decendant of a GOD!

And I would think that the mini shrine will give: (speculation)
1pt for white first year
2pt for purple first year
3pts for gold first year
4 pts for green

2pts for white 2nd year.....and so on and on.... but again... maybe just 1 pt for white and up for better color of minis... but who knows... NOT ME....

hope we will find out soon

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsielschott View Post
And I would think that the mini shrine will give: (speculation)
So, people who were lucky or wealthy in GW1 get to show off more than people who were not? This is how you expect ANet to reward those who were unlucky and not rich -- by continuing to make them aware of their "inferiority" when they transition to GW2?

Personally, I don't think GW1 e-peen should transfer to GW2. Those who had status in GW1 got the benefit from it GW1. Let it stay there. Reward all GW1 customers by giving them equal chance at any bit of HoM bling in GW2, and let them all start out on the same e-peen footing from there. It's enough that those who have more items in their HoM will have more bits of bling, and there is no reason to carry this to extremes with extra rewards for those who have things that nobody else can get.

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

N/

With the different groupings available for minipet display maybe we will get points for having a full birthday set. Or just X points for having 20 total, 30 total, 40 total, etc. I am thinking base points for having a "full" display (whatever the max for display is) and then extra for having all available (this could work for armor, hero, weapons, but since there are new birthday minis I would think those would go by set or by number tiers).

Can we please add the craftable Deldrimor weapons and the Oppressor weapons to HoM? Pretty please? They would look so nice there.


Yes the people who were lucky or wealthy get to show off. Inferiority? Sounds like someone is just jealous. I have played for for over 5 years and have a decent stack of pretties. As much as some others? No. More than some others? Yes. I put my time/ effort in. My luck with getting minipets on my own is rather dismal (many repeats, but others have the same and we can trade. Hello Nicholas, its been over 1500 gifts can I please have a mini now? Wintersdays full of bear runs, nada. Taking 9th char through WiK right now, luckily my husband got the gift ones.) I have bought a handful of the birthday minis to complete my collections - all paid for by playing the game and picking up every little drop. That is my effort put in and anyone else could have done the same. And I accept that I will never have an Island Guardian or even a Dhuum. Oh well. If you didn't want to spend the time to obtain a certain mini/title/whatever you shouldn't complain that the people who did get a reward for it. I can't see them giving extra points for the really really rare ones anyhow because of how few there were available. Unless that ties into the tier thing. And then it goes back to the "Oh well" for those who didnt get it. Maybe there will be a set number of things to trade points in for and the extra points wont even matter.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormX View Post
Better be purely cosmetic or I will rage.
Considering what all is considered cosmetic you might rage anyhow. Obby armor= cosmetic, rank emotes=cosmetic, rare minis=cosmetic, rare weap skins=cosmetic, el tonics=cosmetic,.....etc....etc

Reflect

Reflect

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Varna,Bulgaria

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

W/

so give same awards to ppl who played 10h of GW1 and to ppl who put efford time etc in the game?
good way to encourage them in playing again GW2...

SpiritThief

SpiritThief

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

R/Me

Sounds good to me.

I was just happy with the name transfer don't really need anything else. Easy to keep friend list together.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

That's quite a change. From unlock-based to point-based. It likely opens all the possibilities of getting much more than 'just' a full HoM, like a 6th elite armor set or 21th minipet will likely give you more points, and another thing is different achievements may have different point value. Obsidian Armor may give 2x or 3x more than any other armor set, ultra-rare minipets give much more than common ones, etc. Oh, and mixmatching, like a mini panda giving you points for a cool weapon or a set of tormenteds give you a special minipet in GW2.
Can't wait for the full article and the mayhem that follows

jray14

jray14

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

NC, USA

Ohm Mahnee Pedmay [Hoom]

Quote:
Originally Posted by snowman relic View Post
thats what i thought at first then so many people in kamadan telling me their transfering everything over saying they read it somewere i started to belive them
Of course the Kamadan peeps will say that: they're salesmen!

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Gonna wait for official word on what's really going to happen before I spend anymore gold on l33t weapons or armor just to display them in the HoM.