Danger...topk and farming...

*** send a private message to me either here or my in game name: emily death blade
*** and I will add your name to the list of innocent accounts banned by anet.

UPDATE:
The ban has nothing to do with my simple macro.
The ban appears to be for a 3rd party program that is probably a bot that they are referring to.
I along other players have been accused of having a 3rd party program which we just don't have.
The common scenario is that we were all in TOPK when we were farming and we banned.
Somehow, our builds, maneuvers, run paths, trigger some screen that got us banned.
I suggest at this time to avoid any or all farming in TOPK at this time of the underworld edge for ectos(A/me or Me/A builds), until this is resolved.
I am trying to work with customer service to see if they can figure out what the problem was and why it has netted innocent players; however, they are not being cooperative.


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Just wanted to warn people about TOPK and farming the ectos on the edge in the underworld.

I started to farm this area about 2 days ago with an A/me build. Today, I got a message that due to 3rd party/bot/etc, I have been permanently banned.

Unfortunately, the only things I have that might constitute anything would be my razermouse that has 1 macro that lasts 1 or 2 seconds of run time that requires me to be there to use it. And my g13 which I have used on occasional for heroes bonding or buffing macros, which again require me to be there to start it.

Both my razer and g13 have been with me a the entire time i have played the game around 8 months.

The only thing new was I started farming TOPK 2 days ago.

I know that there are TOPK bots, but apparently, I got wrongfully banned for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So, word of caution about TOPK.

I have emailed support and have asked them to look into my account and see that it is legitimate and am awaiting their response.

I applaud GW for being aggressive with the bots, but being part of the collateral damage really sucks.

IGN of people who have been banned for illegal 3rd program use without just cause:
1) Light and Peace (Slight and Deadly was the sin)
2) Angels tread among (Mes that was banned)
3) Empress Dragonheart (A/me)

Good luck. I have heard both good and bad stories from ANET support. Sounds like you are not at fault and their logs should show that you were not a bot.


Good luck .

What is razermouse and g13?

razermouse = mouse which you can program macro on?

What about g13?

Anyway you probably didn't get ban because you farmed topk. They probably banned you because they suspected you from using third party programs so you would have been banned regardless of the location you would farm in.

I'm not sure if they consider mouse-macro as a third party but it's still not the way the game was intended to be played and it's still unfair to peoples that don't use them.

Hope you get an answer from the support team so that you can at least know the reason why you got banned, let alone get unbanned.

Just for everyone's edication before this turns into a macro/illegal/legal war.

Thousands have played this game with razers and g13's without a ban.

G13 is like the G15 keyboard, just extra keys for macros if you need them. Again, something I haven't used in a while.

If you use a macro that's a 3rd party system. It's not part of the game it's part of your hardware and the EULA clearly states no 3rd party usage of any kind. Ban acceptable goobye better luck next time you try to cheat.

It's probably not your hardware that got you banned. You should appeal on the basis that you weren't botting and that you used macros. Macros are fine.


They have been banning a lot of A/Me and A/E lately. There are a couple of scripting bots used to farm ectos in ToPK that have gained public attention lately and are being used pretty frequently.

Just appeal and explain to them (in a more polite manner) that you weren't using this bot. The problem is that it's borderline undetectible and Anet isn't amazing at catching botters anyway.

Tbh, most of the big-time botters from the recent mass ban have gotten at least 1 of their accounts back. Most of them have gotten back their main accounts, minus thousands of ectos.

LOL, the crazy thing is that i didn't use any macros in TOPK ever. The macro's were used for chaining dash and pious haste (dash pious haste - 2 keys) when I was a noob runner. I haven't used the macro in a long time except for boring EOTN runs where I can click it and not worry about dying.

Like I said the only new thing that occured in the last week, was me -> TOPK.

As you can see right above your post, that I clearly linked a response from a GM about it. So, I don't think it's as simple as you think it is. And secondly, personal attack much on the basis of calling me a cheater?

Thx.

Again, it's probably just because you were running a build similar to the one the botters have been using in ToPK and Anet just isn't great at catching the new stuff these guys are running.

Honestly, it's kind of ridiculous, but I just don't think Anet's support staff has the time or resources to actually catch these guys so they often catch innocent guys like you in a blanket ban of assassins in ToPK.


EDIT: And don't listen to Femmefatal. He/she has been trolling a lot lately.

Third party software is not a violation of the EULA. Using 3rd party software is not against the rules, but using it to break the rules is, oddly enough, against the rules.
Macros are not a violation of the EULA. Macros that break the rules are a violation.

Using either or both violates the EULA when ANet or NCSoft feels like it, or if the gibbous moon beam pierces a cloud to strike a falling oak leaf 21 inches above the ground in Minnesota on the second Thursday in February, provided there have been no fires within 1,278 yards of said leaf for at least 3 weeks. Odds of detection are influenced by the proximity and population density of indigenous squirrels.

In other words, there is a gray area, and ANet refuses to clarify it.

A couple years ago I was doing some Kurzick stuff on my warrior and had walked into Altrumn Ruins. I then minimized the game window and looked up some things on wiki and guru. When I returned to the GW window, I was sitting at the login screen. When I attempted to log back in, I discovered I was permanently banned for botting.

So I created a support ticket. It took 24 hours, but they reviewed the code and discovered I was banned by mistake. As it turns out, at that time there were solo monk bots running out of Altrumn Ruins constantly. Since I happened to be inside Altrumn Ruins at the time Anet decided to sweep them up, I was inadvertently caught in the net.

I don't know if what happened to you was for a similar reason, or if they actually are detecting macros as trivial as what you may have been using. But I would imagine it was an error. Good luck!

you were banned for no reason? working as intended. - ANet

I can't believe I'm about to defend Anet, but here goes.

The truth is that it's unavoidable. Anet wants to catch bots, but they're just bad at it. They don't have the tools, they don't have the staff, and they don't have the resources.

Sometimes, their best bet is to blanket ban and then work out the innocents after. I know that sounds harsh, but they've been doing it for a while.

Bots run off of scripted/coded behavior. Mouses and keyboards are the same deal. I think Anet should declare any and all forms of automated/scripted game behavior botting and be done with it because they're relatively the same. If you're not playing the game manually, if you're playing on auto-pilot, you should be banned for it. Proof lay in their logs, so if they see any patterns of play that a human being is simply incapable of outputting [especially for extreme periods of time] they have enough to put your account on permanent suspension for botting. Botting is cheating no matter which way anyone looks at it, and just because it's sold in stores, it doesn't mean you can or should be able to apply it to online gaming. That's just my piece. If you ask me, your case is ban-worthy, but if they don't have it in their EULA they can't hit you with that.

When I got banned a couple months ago (about a week after the mass bannings took place), I too was farming ToPK using the A/Me build from back then. After several go arounds with them they still wouldn't give a specific reason as to why, just that they detected a botting program on my system, which was totally not true. They finally caved in and lifted the IP ban but did not reinstate my old account. I wish you all the luck with your appeal but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

first things first, figure out what I got banned for.

1) TOPK net that was thrown too wide.

2) If it was my use of macros, which might have nothing to do with TOPK.

And no, I wasn't playing on "auto-pilot". I have never botted or auto-piloted my play. As I stated earlier, all my macros are short-lived, non-repeating sequences that last no longer than a couple seconds.

No response from Support yet. It's been 3 hours since I emailed them.

Precisely. Enough said.

Macro = Botting = Macro = Botting = Macro = Botting

There's no way around it.

Also consider your account might have been banned for different reasons, like if it got hacked by RMT's. Anet is very quick to ban hacked accounts and if you're lucky, you only lost your gold and maybe a sup vigor or two, and all your ectos