Blacklisted

kryptina

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Hi

Last night I was kidding around with someone, and he got enraged in an SoOSC run, just as I was about to tell him I was joking, the A/P runner thought since he was the "big man on campus" he could control the whole team by proclaiming that if we did not stop, he would leave. I kid you not this didn't take place for more than 10 seconds, and as I was about to tell the other snow I was kidding, he just upped and left on us like he was gods gift to mankind. The kid only had a rank 4 KOABD title.

Now suddenly he and his friend are running around Vlox Falls proclaiming that my name is banlisted slandering my name in game for no reason. I can no longer run during the peak time when I have avaliable time to be online, nor can I even show my face in Vlox while they're around without feeling shameful. I'm one of the most reliable runners (not the best) but I execute the run extremely well and never have problems whatsoever. But now I can't seem to get in a group. People let me in and as soon as they say something in regards to me, the group that I am currently in says "Oh, look, hes banlisted" Even if I was utmost polite to the leader and everything got along well.

I'm an adult, 34 years of age, I have a son that plays on this account as well. Nothing had been done wrong by my part or anyone elses in the group for that matter except he and his friend. After they had left the group I even told the other person I was having a confrontation with that it was a joke and he seemed to have a laugh over the things that took place just seconds earlier.

Now that my name is blacklisted I literally sit in vlox falls and get to watch the waves of teams leave, and then when the rush is gone, I have no groups to join.

Is it possible for those two accounts to be permanently banned, or for me to get a namechange? What are the steps I can take to combat online grief and name slandering?

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

get a name change or join an alliance that runs SC's all the time.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Granted u can send in screens to support with /reports, but yeah? whats that gonna do really? Kind of makes me wonder what you were doing/joking to piss them off. Personally...I wish I could ban all the ping/drawing happy ppl out there, but oh well.

kryptina

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

I kept telling everyone that I wanted them to be "Exp No fail" team only, otherwise I would be very upset. Just mocking all of the other elitests that do speed clears (apparently the elitest who wants me blacklist took offense to that xD)

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

You can try buying a name change or making a new character, but if anyone's friends listed you at some point in this affair, it won't work.

Support probably won't help you. If you can't solve it personally, it might be time to buy a new account.

Sirius Bsns

Banned

Join Date: May 2010

PonG

W/Mo

Don't play Guild Wars anymore and be one less player for the game. If everyone did this, the game would eventually become empty, and players would either regret their arrogance and change for the better, or continue destroying the very core of MMO gaming: playing with each other.

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

Mo/

Wait a bit.
After a while, no one cares what anyone says, or they'll just give up. Some people take this game too seriously and can't handle some jokes. If someone is good, I'll group with them. I don't like most of the community, anyway :P
I just don't talk in runs unless I think it necessary.

Tar Ionwe

Tar Ionwe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

Cantha

W/E

I would agree with Moonstalker, just a wait a little while before going back to Vlox. Give it like a week and I doubt anyone will remember or even care by that point.

Honestly I just keep my talking to a min during runs unless I'm with my guildies. There are too many people out there that will do things like what happened to you. (Like they have any right to do that, SoO as well as Kath runs are quite simple).

Chrisworld

Chrisworld

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2010

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

W/

And to add to all this: You are better at real life than them. Them going out of their way creating e-drama in the game automatically places them in the no lifers category.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

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And to add to all this: You are better at real life than them. Them going out of their way creating e-drama in the game automatically places them in the no lifers category.
I don't think the OP is better in any way. OP went out of their way to annoy some people and can't deal with it except by wanting the others banned?

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

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Originally Posted by Savio View Post
I don't think the OP is better in any way. OP went out of their way to annoy some people and can't deal with it except by wanting the others banned?
Everyone jokes around with others. We can't criminalize that or know some child is going to go off the deep end and harass others.

As for being 'blacklisted'... I just say to wait it out. If you don't hang around in Vlox for a few days, hopefully their childish behaviour will cease. You might also consider reporting them. I don't know if aNet would do anything about it, but repeated harassment at any level is hopefully not tolerated.

snodaard

snodaard

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Holland

[Uni]

Mo/

lol ban/blacklist is a joke:P there is no such thing as a blacklist, just some ppl who will remember your name for like a week. if one of those isn't online you are free to play. U think that all the ally's and guildys of the guy you "offended" know who you are? no they don't they'll just let you play with them. so yeah you can't join 2 or 3 players now, wow that's not a big deal. since there are like 20 groups going out there on any moment.

Got blacklisted like 3 times on my first days of UW Speadclearing pre nerf, and I've never had any problems with that, I could join every group.. so actually the blacklist is just a lie in my eyes.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kryptina View Post
Hi

Last night I was kidding around with someone, and he got enraged in an SoOSC run, just as I was about to tell him I was joking, the A/P runner thought since he was the "big man on campus" he could control the whole team by proclaiming that if we did not stop, he would leave. I kid you not this didn't take place for more than 10 seconds, and as I was about to tell the other snow I was kidding, he just upped and left on us like he was gods gift to mankind. The kid only had a rank 4 KOABD title.
So couse he just have a R4 KOABD title makes him a kid.
...lol I guess

I play this game over 5 years and just have 23 titles..just because I don't
care for titles. I just like the game it self.

But you are right some people are easily stept on their toes.
Dont make a big deal of it.. it are just boring runs to get richer in a game
which you don't have to be rich to play it at it's full

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio View Post
I don't think the OP is better in any way. OP went out of their way to annoy some people and can't deal with it except by wanting the others banned?
This can be true if the group he went with was a ally team or somehow friends.
Otherwise it can be annoying that somebody is leaving while doin something.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenn View Post
Everyone jokes around with others. We can't criminalize that or know some child is going to go off the deep end and harass others.
But there are other ways to deal with it than trying to get others banned or changing your name. Ask your friends? (Surely he's made some if he's a regular?) I mean he can't even confront them, he feels "shameful"? I'm pretty sure most of us have had spats like this in outposts, we don't go running off with our tails between our legs.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

You were "blacklisted" by a certain bunch in game....so?

It's just a certain bunch.

You could always throw some wild accusation at them, remember it's not like it's an offical part of the game, just some community nonsense.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I agree with everyone who says to just stay clear of the place for a bit and that the whole "blacklist" thing is a joke. It'll blow over because nobody outside your guild, alliance, and friends list is going to remember your name unless people keep talking about you.

On a side note, the more people that those little D-Bags piss off, the more their reputation will grow as D-bags and the fewer people will put up with them.

Mesmers Are Bad

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

NJ

RoCk

Me/

Or hey, maybe try not doing SoOSC. There are plenty of better and more fun things to do in GW than just exploiting Shadowform, even for an assassin.
They're doing you, and the economy as a whole, a huge favor. One less speed clearer on the streets is a beautiful thing.

Masmar

Masmar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Aberdeen, Scotland

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

E/

pugs think they are touch sshouting that. chances are nobody in vloxs care about what they have to say and you'll still get in teams. I bet a few of the people forming teams even have the 2 you're dealing with on their own "blacklist."

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Well... To each their own, man-- this whole thread is pretty bleh. If they say you're "blacklisted", then f-'em. I recommend that you move on and, in a few days, you'll most likely be back in a team with one/some of the members if you're "good enough" to meet their expectactions and if you don't mention the whole incident to anyone in-game. People like to talk and it'll f you in the ass pretty hard.

Besides all of that, for the most part shitters just shout "BLACKLISTED!!" to try and seem like they have some form of "power". Chances are, they don't even have a "blacklist" to begin with.





Buuuuuuut.... For me, personally, I have a little notepad titled "Banned List". This list I keep for people who are disallowed from ever rejoining my guild under any circumstance.


For example, it looks like this (I removed the names of the players for obvious reasons):

Quote:
Originally Posted by My Banned List
People Banned From The Guild
----------------------------------------------

1) <insert name here> / <insert name here>
-left guild twice; left on bad terms

2) <insert name here>
-left guild twice; left on bad terms; annoyance

3) <insert name here> / <insert name here>
-left guild twice

4) <insert name here> / <insert name here>
-left guild twice

5) <insert name here>
-left guild twice

6)



People To Be Careful Of
-------------------------------------

1) <insert name here> / <insert name here>
-left once

2)


So... Like I said: give it some time and keep your nose clean.

Kordis Sol

Kordis Sol

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

UK

Port Sledge Snow Cones [Cold]

E/

You could always switch to the OGNSC for a while..

(ahem.. the Ornate Grawl Necklace speed clear.....)

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

i think you shouldn't worry, like some said: it'll be over soon enough
but... are you on a blacklist, or did they let their friends not join you, just to P you off?

if grown ups even listen to crap that someone is on a blacklist, then its not very... normal, i mean i wont care what they say about someone i dont know, if that person likes to help or run me, then i let my own feelings tell me what to do

and people shouting stuff are mostly kids who want the attention of everyone

as for the KOABD title, i dont even have rank 1, cuz i dont care, i just like to play

as people told you: ignore those kids, they wont bother you too much if you ignore em, they'll get tired of it

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

Let's try and keep the focus of this thread on methods for dealing with griefers instead of personal attacks on the OP or the harassers.

Grumpy Bear

Grumpy Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

England

[FAPd]

Mo/

I'd just do what others suggested and do something else for a few days then return to your runs. And if you really did nothing wrong then just laugh it off and move on.

Tbh these 'blacklists' make me laugh, ok if you do something purposefully to mess up a run or if you leave mid-run then let others know but some people get blacklisted for doing nothing wrong.

I don't do SCs or runs of any sort but the same thing happened in HA...I was forming with my guild and this random sin tried to join, he was politely that we were waiting for guildies and he started saying we were noobs and that our whole guild had been put on his guilds blacklist. 'Goodluck trying to get into teams' was his closing remark. This made me lol.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

The notion of a blacklist was always dumb. The first time I saw someone use 'blacklist' was in ToA when UW runs were 15-20 mins with a pug and everyone who died, wiped, aggroed wrong, farmed or otherwise wasn't 100% perfect was hit with a barrage of "omg blacklist!11."

I think it will blow over, as it always does. The only way a 'blacklisted' name would stick would be if the individual did something reeeeally sucky like stealing cons money and quitting or deliberately sabotaging the run out of spite. In which case, I would reject the individual based on my personal bad experience with him/her or if another party member gave a sincere and justified warning about an invitee.

This kind of behaviour has led me away from pugging speed clears because I'm always tense and in fear of making mistakes and ultimately not enjoying myself - so I run with guildies and friends only. Even at that, if someone makes a mistake, I yell "BLACKLIST OMG" and it's worth a good chuckle. Everyone I play with regularly knows blacklisting is futile and infantile.

Yaksha

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2010

N/R

Yeah. It sounds like the O/P ran into a few real assholes, but on teh interwebs when you troll people a bit, do expect for people to troll you back some as well.

As people have already pointed out, you are one name among many so unless you've done something truly spectacular, you're not going to be remembered for that long.

luin_gunners

luin_gunners

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Australia Land

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The kid only had a rank 4 KOABD title.

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Is it possible for those two accounts to be permanently banned?
Doubt it.
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Originally Posted by kryptina View Post
or for me to get a namechange?
Ten dollars, not worth it.
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Originally Posted by kryptina View Post
What are the steps I can take to combat online grief and name slandering?
Don't play with randoms.

Slasher of Darkness

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2008

Lots of places~

D/

I laugh every time I see anyone take a "blacklist" so seriously. Who the hell cares, they must be really pathetic if they actually keep a list of players not allowed to join groups. Just keep on playing. Have no fear.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

And people say PvP is full of elitist twats.

Seems PvE running has it's equal share, this blacklist craps a joke.

I'd just recommend being honest with the groups you get into that he's full of shit and has some vendetta for you, most reasonable would take i'd imagine.

I wouldn't rush into buying a name change, as these sound like the persistant specie of twat. They may well have friendlisted you, which case the name change would be a complete waste of money.

If all else fails, i'd imagine they'll forget about it soon enough.

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

There are more than enough BDS for sale in Kamadan. Do something else for awhile.

As for the group that is shunning you: What goes around, comes around. But if you really care about THEIR opinion of you, approach the guy you offended and apologize. If you don't care, then let it go. He will too eventually.

great sir s

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The depths of Africa

[LotU]

N/Me

OP: you act like the mob is hot on your trail. the people tarnishing your name are humans with lives as well... maybe not as much as the rest of us, but still. they will get plenty bored if they have not already and you need to worry about nothing.

when you see people in towns spamming peoples names saying "XXXX sucks blah blah" do you really pay any attention to it? i doubt anyone would ever be like ooooo im not letting you run me i saw some guy scream out that youre bad a million times.

No.

tcratty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

6 feet under

forever angels

E/

first off he left the group high and dry there for he is the noob (hate that word, we all started as noobs) leavers are the worst ever and like the others have said in a week the winds of time will have blown it all away

DigitalFear

DigitalFear

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

My mother's basement.

Me/

Blacklists = bullshit.

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

also...try not to annoy people. it goes a long way.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

hmm say 1000 ppl do sc and 1/2 gets blacklisted by idiots - soon there wont be enough ppl to sc in teams .. do you think ppl who are in need of a sc team will worry next day about someone who for non serious reasons had the blacklist cry ?
How many actual sc teams actually listen to blacklist cry - unless its serious they dont give a toss usually - and most times they see the same prat crying blacklist for daft reasons ( wonder if anyones been blacklisted for having bad armor lol ).
Personally i wouldnt worry - you shud probably get a team easily enough

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiritz View Post
How many actual sc teams actually listen to blacklist cry
I'm pretty sure the answer is zero.

HigherMinion

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalFear View Post
Blacklists = bullshit.
^ And if you play SoOSC or ANYTHING with friends and a few pugs, you're not going to act stone-faced around your friends, are you? You'll carry on doing what you do, luring everything, rushing/lagging behind or spamming shit on the compass.

You shouldn't stop doing what you do for the sake of a PUG and lose out on entertainment.

Vallen

Vallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

R/

My only bit of advice would be dont hang around Vlox for hours arguing with these people, because then people will recognise your name after a small while. Just avoid it for a few days and then go back, join teams for a few days and don't set any up yourself (avoid talking on all chat or trade chat at all) After a week or so it should have died down.

Sucks that people can be this abusive, but I guess welcome to the internet

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

I wana see this special Blacklist everyone talks about
Anyways Ive noticed a larger number of these type of players.
Very short tempered and will rage quit at any seen of trouble, then call on others to be at fault. I love guildwars

forbidden44

forbidden44

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

restless soldiers

R/Mo

lol, I remember you I was on that run

Wait... now that I think of it, you were calling us a C word that has something to do with chinese people when we all went back to vlox... that's not very nice

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

There is actually a blacklist site, but I have been blacklisted like 39 times and still got into groups.

No one checks that stuff, man.