Hi there!
I found two skills which can be misused to damage the own team. These are
Grent's Balance: Infuse Health for enemies
Iron Mist: A powerful "prot" for enemies. Especially if there is no Air Ele or Channeling Rit in the team.
Are there any other skills like that? Do you think they should be changed?
Personally, I think Grenth's Balance is ok, but Iron Mist needs rework, because I can't think of any meaningful use for that.
(And I'm unsure whether this belongs to Riverside or Sardelac.)
Skills with Griefing Potential
Mashiyu
HigherMinion
Nevermind... Yeah, quite a griefer skill.
I always liked using Muddy Terrain in JQ at the start, pwns your team. Funny.
I always liked using Muddy Terrain in JQ at the start, pwns your team. Funny.
makosi
Edge of Extinction and Rotting Flesh.
I use these in FA all the time, not to grief, but to make bad players useful by fuelling the EoE bomb.
I use these in FA all the time, not to grief, but to make bad players useful by fuelling the EoE bomb.
Elnino
Nature's Renewal
HigherMinion
So basically all spirits give grief to both sides.
kariemindstorm
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zelgadissan
I like to go into RA on my monk, whisper one of the people on the other team that I'm a double agent and will heal them, then when the match starts jump with them and keep their team up with Heal Area, Healing Ring, and Karei's Healing Circle. I also like to maintain Life Attunement on my team's warriors and assassins, and let's not forget Unyielding Aura (PvP).
Grief is everywhere, if only you know where to look.
Grief is everywhere, if only you know where to look.
TheodenKing
I made a build for AB called "A-Hole Ranger." As I recall, it has Nature's Renewal, Quickening Zephyr, Muddy Terrain, Tranquility, Roaring Winds, Quicksand, plus a running skill and a heal. I don't recommend using it, of course. But yeah, major grief!
Freedom III
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Originally Posted by TheodenKing
I made a build for AB called "A-Hole Ranger." As I recall, it has Nature's Renewal, Quickening Zephyr, Muddy Terrain, Tranquility, Roaring Winds, Quicksand, plus a running skill and a heal. I don't recommend using it, of course. But yeah, major grief!
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Karate Jesus
One of the most common ones is in FA on the Kurzick side.
You get 2 necros with Arcane Echo, Arcane Mimicry, and Aura of the Lich. They spam their minions next to Gunther (or the team). Then they put Death Nova on a couple of them and sac themselves to death.
Instant minion griefing. Of course....it gets a lot of guys reported. Oh, and Gunther's Gaze helped to fix it. Honestly, though, people still use it against the team sitting on the portal.
You get 2 necros with Arcane Echo, Arcane Mimicry, and Aura of the Lich. They spam their minions next to Gunther (or the team). Then they put Death Nova on a couple of them and sac themselves to death.
Instant minion griefing. Of course....it gets a lot of guys reported. Oh, and Gunther's Gaze helped to fix it. Honestly, though, people still use it against the team sitting on the portal.
Wyndy
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
One of the most common ones is in FA on the Kurzick side.
You get 2 necros with Arcane Echo, Arcane Mimicry, and Aura of the Lich. They spam their minions next to Gunther (or the team). Then they put Death Nova on a couple of them and sac themselves to death. Instant minion griefing. Of course....it gets a lot of guys reported. |
Markaedw
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Gunther has monster skill that wipes out minions now. That has been nerfed
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Amy Awien
From what I read about it, Death Nova would still hurt the 'original foes', that is, those who are foe of whoever cast Death Nova
They have limited range and your own team is more likely to be in range.
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ValaOfTheFens
Virulence is lolzy no matter the format. I use it in AB mostly. Just lock onto the most annoying person and fire off stuff. My build uses Glyph of Immolation, Weaken Armor, Virulence, Putrid Bile, and Vile Miasma for the meat and I have three free slots for whatever. I usually have Plague Sending, Signet of Lost Souls, and Animate Bone Minions but sometimes a running skill can be useful when I make too many people angry or need to get away from my team so they won't get negative statuses.
belshazaarswrath
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
One of the most common ones is in FA on the Kurzick side.
You get 2 necros with Arcane Echo, Arcane Mimicry, and Aura of the Lich. They spam their minions next to Gunther (or the team). Then they put Death Nova on a couple of them and sac themselves to death. Instant minion griefing. Of course....it gets a lot of guys reported. Oh, and Gunther's Gaze helped to fix it. Honestly, though, people still use it against the team sitting on the portal. |
P.S.
I just WON a match with that build. That was rather disappointing.
Mustache Mayhem
nat renewal is the ultimate.. use it in fort around gunther when they break the wall
Xiaquin
Spirit griefing anyone? Not sure how popular they are, but I've always thought something like Feast of Souls or Spirit to Flesh against your own team would really grief people into rages. You could also bring Draw Spirit and start moving them away from an area or into the enemy to be killed.
Ka Tet
I thought that Lacerate bombing turtles from the luxon side was fun, but I gotta hand it to the op, echos + iron mist + gate npc's = true hilarity. Drain delusions is slightly helpful for taking mes hexes off them, works best if they're hit with illusion of pain. Also, crystal wave and tenai's crystal make for excellent condi removal.
zwei2stein
Veratas Aura + Self-enchant removal (Contempation of purity) + Minions.
Old unyielding aura was quite a grieginf build.
IIRC, someone made "monk from hell" build based on this and "helped" out newbies at fort ranik. Sadly, he was not banned or anything :-( ... wonder how many played did he turn away from gw ...
Old unyielding aura was quite a grieginf build.
IIRC, someone made "monk from hell" build based on this and "helped" out newbies at fort ranik. Sadly, he was not banned or anything :-( ... wonder how many played did he turn away from gw ...
snowman relic
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IIRC, someone made "monk from hell" build based on this and "helped" out newbies at fort ranik. Sadly, he was not banned or anything :-( ... wonder how many played did he turn away from gw ...
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Skyy High
Wait, it's best for this one random guy to grief new players at the second mission to the point that they quit the game in disgust, rather than them getting far enough in that they might happen upon a scammer?
snowman relic
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Wait, it's best for this one random guy to grief new players at the second mission to the point that they quit the game in disgust, rather than them getting far enough in that they might happen upon a scammer?
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Sirius Bsns
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no its best that people relize their are people in this game who do things to make you mad you will have to live with it
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The current monk imbalance plus bad players invoke the inner demon within good players and tempt them into grieving. Having no monk foreshadows failure in any given match. Also, so many bad players cause teams to fail. This in turn causes desensitization within good players, tempting them into the grieving game trend to destroy what little competitiveness exists in Random Arenas. RA needs balance, and player improvement, which can only happen in a perfect world [unfortunately]. RA is pretty doomed... One can only make the best of it... or ragequit.
diabiosx
i remember pestilence lol, u self condition yourself with everything possible, sacyourself and by the time the gate door even opens your team is dead lol
Skyy High
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no its best that people relize their are people in this game who do things to make you mad you will have to live with it
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Verene
<sarcasm>Silly you, there are no new players, it's just veterans screwing around now!</sarcasm>
Let the poor new players play in peace and don't be a dick, FFS. Really not a difficult concept.
Let the poor new players play in peace and don't be a dick, FFS. Really not a difficult concept.
Lillium
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Originally Posted by TheodenKing
I made a build for AB called "A-Hole Ranger." As I recall, it has Nature's Renewal, Quickening Zephyr, Muddy Terrain, Tranquility, Roaring Winds, Quicksand, plus a running skill and a heal. I don't recommend using it, of course. But yeah, major grief!
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Not for griefing, I actually did it for debuffing the poo out of the other team. Its particularly good at shutting down the bombers when you're alone at a quarry.
Pathetic part is when it wins.
-Makai-
Many months ago, I happened upon a crazed Luxon Monk whilst playing JQ. The guy was an obvious troll, using UA and Glyph of Swiftness to kill his allies at inopportune times. Later on, I saw him spamming Iron Mist and Glyph of Renewal on ranged professions and juggernauts.
Morphy
Unyieling Aura is a classic.
Ranger Jaap
I have met some troll ele with iron mist and vengeance in RA.