Langmar and Thackery...

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I can see it now Gwen..
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Where do you think these two ran off too?
Big battles always get me excited too, i don't blame them.

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Where do you think these two ran off too?
I take it you've just finished the Battle for LA? Then go to the HoM and witness the report the searchers make to Gwen.

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the pacing of this content is really ill conceived. that dialog was a while ago. i am stoked we are getting content at all, but i would think the dialog with gwen and the others in the HoM, post BLA, should have happened when the next content is given to us. i totally forgot already what that whole conversation was about.

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Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o View Post
I can see it now Gwen..
Wastrel's Worry-Mistrust-Confusing Images-Panic-Chaos Storm-Cry of Pain

Where do you think these two ran off too?
Big battles always get me excited too, i don't blame them.
Too funny.

Does get you curious though. I mean, Gwen was always so mean to Thackery and treated him badly. So I wouldn't doubt him running off with Langmar.

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I can see it now Gwen..
Wastrel's Worry-Mistrust-Confusing Images-Panic-Chaos Storm-Cry of Pain
lulz

I disagree, Jazilla. That last convo let us know where we'd be going with the story next, while we finished chewing on the obvious finale of this part and they get the next part ready.

If you forget what they said, there's the wiki to help.

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i too cant wait to see whats next. and they basically said she was the next captian and they cant find thackery but they think the charr have him.

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Langmar and Thackery...

If you read Ghost of Ascalon....... You would know what happened

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I take it you've just finished the Battle for LA? Then go to the HoM and witness the report the searchers make to Gwen.
The grave they found, is still unconfirmed. They could have taken some ecto from the treasury and burried it for safe keeping, or its a cover up. For all we know Zinn could be letting them use his Secret Underground Lair.

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Maybe Thackery saved all that stuff we gave him for that picnic, since Gwen didn't take it.

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Originally Posted by jazilla View Post
the pacing of this content is really ill conceived. that dialog was a while ago. i am stoked we are getting content at all, but i would think the dialog with gwen and the others in the HoM, post BLA, should have happened when the next content is given to us. i totally forgot already what that whole conversation was about.
I agree. The pacing of this new content is weird. How long is Thackeray supposed to go missing?

Meh, it's Anet, what did we expect? The derv update isn't even here yet. I sincerely doubt they'll be able to get anything they want to finish done before GW2.

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I agree. The pacing of this new content is weird. How long is Thackeray supposed to go missing?

Meh, it's Anet, what did we expect? The derv update isn't even here yet. I sincerely doubt they'll be able to get anything they want to finish done before GW2.
The Live Team has been on hiatus since GamesCon and will until PAX is over.

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The Live Team has been on hiatus since GamesCon and will until PAX is over.
Because there weren't 4 months before GamesCon?

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the finale for WiK wasn't more than a few weeks before GamesCon, and the period in between was spent getting ready for GC

anyway what I said is the truth, there won't be any GW:B activity until after PAX

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the finale for WiK wasn't more than a few weeks before GamesCon, and the period in between was spent getting ready for GC

anyway what I said is the truth, there won't be any GW:B activity until after PAX
It was 5 weeks. July 8th - August 18th.

And I have a hard time understanding why the Live Team would need to prepare for GamesCon or PAX. Outside of the CR team, they're not supposed to work on GW2, or at least......that's what we've been told a thousand times.

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Ummmm, pretty sure the Live Team had nothing to do with Gamescon...

(I can't believe I am the one to say this and not KJ...)

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I'll bet you that Thackeray hobbled his broken ass over to his garden to lick his wounds and hope to die.

That way there will be some super cheesy dialog where you have to bring Gwen to him on a "hunch" at where they saw him and he'll have some long-winded chat with her about how everything is there for her and its a representation of his love and blah blah blah...

She'll go all "NOOOOOO!!!" Rain will start to fall, very dramatic, Thackeray passes out, she vows to love him forever (Change of heart???) and... yeah.


Hm. Oh well, zzz. I'm not looking forward to it, been too disappointed with WiK anyway.

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Because there weren't 4 months before GamesCon?
To my knowledge, progress on the Dervish update was actually very recent. At least according to wiki, I think. I forgot. Even then, I'm sure there is more going on behind the scenes that we don't know about.

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Ummmm, pretty sure the Live Team had nothing to do with Gamescon...

(I can't believe I am the one to say this and not KJ...)
they did have Gamescon responsibilities as well as PAX responsibilities

can I stop defending Live Team now? Really this is tiring, let's move on people and accept the facts.

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Q.Qing about the derv update doesn't make you appear smarter, if that is what you were going for. Let's just let them do there thing so they can get gw2 to us as soon as possible.

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Q.Qing about someone else's Q.Q doesn't make you appear smarter, if that is what you were going for. Let's just let them do there thing so they can feel better about being ignored by a company that they've given money to.

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So, the live team consists of like 4 people? and GW2 has like 100+?

I dont understand Anets priorities here. All we know about the GW2 release date is that it will be released sometime in 2011(possibly). Adding 4 people to 100, shouldnt make much of a difference. But, if they took 4 people from GW2 and added it to the live team it would only be roughly a 4% reduction for GW2, so at maximum(if GW2 was a year away) it would only delay the release date by 2 weeks(not very long). On the flip side, the live team would get updates out for GW1 twice as fast, turning 6mo into 3mo.

Why does this concern me? Because I love GW1 and I'm sure Ill love GW2. I just want something GW related inbetween the long wait for GW2. And its been proven that word of mouth is the most effective advertising mechanism. So, if they want GW2 to be successful they should keep GW1 players happy with content and updates./endrant

OT..

Where did Thackery go? It rhymes with Ebonhawke. I think thats where his secret garden is.

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I'd love to see Ebonhawke in GW1, that would be cool as hell.

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for some really weird reason i keep thinking that thackery somehow got into cantha(i mean they did say the new GW:B content would be there right?) and hes somehow gonan mess something up that will make us do some very long winded dialouges and some quests that are sure to make consets incredibly useful .

eh but yea the whole gwen thackary love thing.. so funny

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for some really weird reason i keep thinking that thackery somehow got into cantha(i mean they did say the new GW:B content would be there right?) and hes somehow gonan mess something up that will make us do some very long winded dialouges and some quests that are sure to make consets incredibly useful .

eh but yea the whole gwen thackary love thing.. so funny
man this would be cool if its true.

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for some really weird reason i keep thinking that thackery somehow got into cantha(i mean they did say the new GW:B content would be there right?) and hes somehow gonan mess something up that will make us do some very long winded dialouges and some quests that are sure to make consets incredibly useful .
Your probably thinking that because it was said that after the Thackery storyline is finished, he would like to take GW:B into Cantha.

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I thought the Canthan part was going to be about the Emperor finally taking over rival factions and unifying the continent again. Maybe just the events leading to this, such as the demise of Kisu, the rise of the new Emperor and such.

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Well, problem is, the Emperor that does all the unifying is a descendant of the current one. So, I doubt we'll be seeing the unification. Rather, I expect we'll see something that explains why the war between the Luxons and Kurzicks is no longer needed by the empire, so they finally decide to gobble them up.

I expect we'll see more inter-racial tension, probably a rekindling of the Tengu wars, leading to the emperor deciding it's time the Kurzicks and Luxons were brought to heel...

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Originally Posted by NerfHerder View Post
if they took 4 people from GW2 and added it to the live team it would only be roughly a 4% reduction for GW2, so at maximum(if GW2 was a year away) it would only delay the release date by 2 weeks(not very long). On the flip side, the live team would get updates out for GW1 twice as fast, turning 6mo into 3mo.
If a woman can make a baby in 9 months, can 9 women make a baby in 1 month? If a ship can cross the ocean in 5 days, can 5 ships cross the ocean in 1 day? Your analysis is a little simplistic.

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If a woman can make a baby in 9 months, can 9 women make a baby in 1 month? If a ship can cross the ocean in 5 days, can 5 ships cross the ocean in 1 day? Your analysis is a little simplistic.
Your analogies are bad. Those are all time dependent.

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Too funny.

Does get you curious though. I mean, Gwen was always so mean to Thackery and treated him badly. So I wouldn't doubt him running off with Langmar.
No seriously go look at HoM... the dialogue there explains what happened to both Langmar and Thackeray...

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The pacing in the Lord of the Rings movies was super weird too. A year between entering Mordor and, what, entering Mordor more? And the Harry Potter movies. And the Narnia movies. And the Matrix movies. And any other canonically continuous series. It's part of willing suspension of disbelief.

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If a woman can make a baby in 9 months, can 9 women make a baby in 1 month? If a ship can cross the ocean in 5 days, can 5 ships cross the ocean in 1 day? Your analysis is a little simplistic.
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The real analogy is : if it takes 1 person to build a building in 10 months, can 10 persons build it in 1 month ?

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Your analogies are bad. Those are all time dependent.
I was trying to point out that it is simplistic to assume that doubling a workforce will double their speed by using humorous examples where this is clearly not the case.

If you prefer a better analogy, imagine building a house, instead. Doubling the number of workers will not double the speed with which the house is built, because there are time and sequence dependecies in various stages of the job. There are tasks on which you can expect diminishing returns as you add more workers. You can't put up framing until the foundation is ready, and concrete takes time to cure. You can't start installing wiring until there are walls in which to install it. Cramming 50 more plumbers into a bathroom will not get the toilet installed any faster.

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I was trying to point out that it is simplistic to assume that doubling a workforce will double their speed by using humorous examples where this is clearly not the case.

If you prefer a better analogy, imagine building a house, instead. Doubling the number of workers will not double the speed with which the house is built, because there are time and sequence dependecies in various stages of the job. There are tasks on which you can expect diminishing returns as you add more workers. You can't put up framing until the foundation is ready, and concrete takes time to cure. You can't start installing wiring until there are walls in which to install it. Cramming 50 more plumbers into a bathroom will not get the toilet installed any faster.
You don't have to assume anything. You already know. The live team used to have more people and i think everyone remembers how much less wait time there was between updates. So if more people were to be added on the team it would be safe to say updates would come by faster.


Back on topic. Langmar... enough said
Thackery i would like to get a mission or something where you beat the crap out of charr/bandits/grawls to take him back and then some cut-scene with Gwen but i think it's out of the question. As long as we get something it's better than leaving it like this

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So if more people were to be added on the team it would be safe to say updates would come by faster.
What part of "double" is confusing you? The OP said that doubling the number of people would double the speed of updates. I was challenging that notion. I did not say that updates would not be produced faster than they are now.

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I was trying to point out that it is simplistic to assume that doubling a workforce will double their speed by using humorous examples where this is clearly not the case.

If you prefer a better analogy, imagine building a house, instead. Doubling the number of workers will not double the speed with which the house is built, because there are time and sequence dependecies in various stages of the job. There are tasks on which you can expect diminishing returns as you add more workers. You can't put up framing until the foundation is ready, and concrete takes time to cure. You can't start installing wiring until there are walls in which to install it. Cramming 50 more plumbers into a bathroom will not get the toilet installed any faster.
Much better analogy. However when your talking about a group that small, diminishing returns probably would not be much of a concern unless you added many more workers.
Also, I don't think he was attempting to provide a mathematical formula for workforce variance. I think it was more of a guesstimate.
Soooo....yea...while doubling the size of the live team would not exactly double the time for updates, it should push them out considerably faster.

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid View Post
Too funny.

Does get you curious though. I mean, Gwen was always so mean to Thackery and treated him badly. So I wouldn't doubt him running off with Langmar.
Gwen is a tsundere.
You don't run off when your are courting a tsundere, you ALWAYS want the tsundere.
They are INCREDIBLE on the bed.


But you must 'tame' them a little first.

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I can see it now Gwen..
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Where do you think these two ran off too?
Big battles always get me excited too, i don't blame them.
Langmar is dead WAHHHHHHH ` should have been gwen

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Langmar is dead WAHHHHHHH ` should have been gwen
It's not too late for that... it's never too late for that.

I think Keiran was wounded, and Nola has him secreted away somewhere while she tends his wounds...

Langmar... shallow grave for all I care, but Thackeray lives, and he's still too good for that cold fish, Gwen.

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