Match manipulation?

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LSX
Academy Page
#1
So liek when i log into gw they said they banned 3700 accounts for botting and Match manipulation. i dont excalty get what Match manipulation is. Does it mean we cant sync PVP anymore?
Chrisworld
Chrisworld
Krytan Explorer
#2
I believe the match manipulation they refer to is the use of bots in PvP. Specifically Mesmer interrupt bots. Because after all, it's PvP, not Bot vs Player or Bot vs Bot...

As for being banned for syncing, I really don't think they can or will without hard evidence such as admitting to it. Sure they can look at guild tags, but coincidences happen too, plus non guildies can also gang up on ventrilo or some other VOIP and go sync and arenanet wouldn't really know. Lots of people could be hitting the enter battle button at the same time. This doesn't mean nothing should still be done about it..
Dawn Angelheart
Dawn Angelheart
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
Match manipulation is only cared about in Gvg.
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#4
The syncing they are referring to is sync entering two champ-range guilds into a GvG match and throwing it one way or the other to farm champ points. Nothings going to be done against RA syncers.
Darcy
Darcy
Never Too Old
#5
Most Match Manipulation is deciding ahead of time who will win the match. Then one team resigns or doesn't actually fight or makes sure to lose.
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X Ghoul
Frost Gate Guardian
#6
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Originally Posted by Dawn Angelheart View Post
Match manipulation is only cared about in Gvg.
enuff said, there have been plenty of forums showing emails from support where they literally dont consider syncing RA match manipulation
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LSX
Academy Page
#7
so, its only gvg. FA, JQ, RA, and AB is allowable?

AB = 3 teams of 4 syncing at the same time.
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pinkeyflower
Krytan Explorer
#8
Deciding the outcome of a match before it has begun through various means. Match manipulation can exist in all forms of PvP but in terms of banning, Anet tends to focus on GvG before the other forms (AB, JQ, FA have small playerbases and aren't really PvP).
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raddish
Academy Page
#9
syncing in RA is really impossible to stop, and they therefore cant take any action. if they did try and challenge someone saying that they were syncing you can just say something stupid like "we just happened to be entering in RA at the same time" and they cant really disprove that, so your completely safe. all they care about is bots.
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Missing HB
Desert Nomad
#10
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Originally Posted by pinkeyflower View Post
Deciding the outcome of a match before it has begun through various means. Match manipulation can exist in all forms of PvP but in terms of banning, Anet tends to focus on GvG before the other forms (AB, JQ, FA have small playerbases and aren't really PvP).
Yes , i would like to know what they mean by match manipulation to be honest : do they mean only making your opponent predictable ( and thus it concerns syncing in GvG only ) ?
I personnaly consider ganking in hall of heroes match manipulation since you make sure one team will win .... Aswell , syncing in RA isn't completly manipulation , but if you sync there , you are sure you will win , thus it can also be manipulation...

@ raddish : ye , there isn't an easy way to fix syncing in RA , but was deleting TA a good and smart idea though ...
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Fluffy Kittens
Guest
#11
People still sync in Codex Arena for quick zquest or quick points isn't that a match manipulation?
Also.. yeah ganking in HoH should be punishable...imo it should be 72 hour ban for that kind of match manipulation because it's just kills the pleasure of playing anymore.
I know what I'm talking about.. after all I'm person who gets ganked in at least 50% HoH matches
lemming
lemming
The Hotshot
#12
The only form of match manipulation that they ban for is syncing in GvG for champ points.
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Fluffy Kittens
Guest
#13
But how is that different than syncing codex for honor points?
lemming
lemming
The Hotshot
#14
It isn't, they just don't care about it.
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Missing HB
Desert Nomad
#15
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Originally Posted by lemming View Post
The only form of match manipulation that they ban for is syncing in GvG for champ points.
But do people need to be reported to get banned for syncing in GvG ? Some people are still doing it every day on dead hour ( only getting 2 pts/day though)...
I don't know for how long people did complain of syncing in RA , whereas syncing in gvg was caught very fast and banned as fast aswell, and if you consider also that you can play all day RA and not get any glad point due to syncers...
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pinkeyflower
Krytan Explorer
#16
I guess RA just isn't really important enough to implement banning. However, the nature of the arena makes the case of proving someone is syncing somewhat difficult. Someone could just be extremely lucky (A few times I've played in RA by myself and then suddenly 3/4 guildies show up on my team). Also, syncers could just move to another alliance guild so that it wouldn't be as obvious to their opponents that they were syncing. Blah blah blah, and then we end up with more QQ threads and some legitimate players being accidentally banned...
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nos two
Ascalonian Squire
#17
Happy Red Resign day!!!!
have fun lol lol lol
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LSX
Academy Page
#18
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Originally Posted by nos two View Post
Happy Red Resign day!!!!
have fun lol lol lol
LOL they didnt ban people for red resign day right? they took Hero battles out.
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Missing HB
Desert Nomad
#19
I would like to know if people could get banned for doing the following ; this takes place in Heroes Ascent at dead hour :

My team is 8/8. 3 of us leave team fast , to make randomway , and rage quit just when zaishens are dead , in order to go back to previous team. That 8/8 team would go in very fast , and would fight for sure that randomway ( its dead hour ).
I noticed that when some guy did it , and found it very smart , in order to be sure to get halls 1v1 ( thus with antibuild or whatever...)

But my question is , it's match manipulation for sure but is it bannable ?
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Fluffy Kittens
Guest
#20
no it aint but its the reason why Anet should do some changes... 8 months ago they announced new HoH map and where is it now? could someone tell me that please