Match manipulation?
LSX
So liek when i log into gw they said they banned 3700 accounts for botting and Match manipulation. i dont excalty get what Match manipulation is. Does it mean we cant sync PVP anymore?
Chrisworld
I believe the match manipulation they refer to is the use of bots in PvP. Specifically Mesmer interrupt bots. Because after all, it's PvP, not Bot vs Player or Bot vs Bot...
As for being banned for syncing, I really don't think they can or will without hard evidence such as admitting to it. Sure they can look at guild tags, but coincidences happen too, plus non guildies can also gang up on ventrilo or some other VOIP and go sync and arenanet wouldn't really know. Lots of people could be hitting the enter battle button at the same time. This doesn't mean nothing should still be done about it..
As for being banned for syncing, I really don't think they can or will without hard evidence such as admitting to it. Sure they can look at guild tags, but coincidences happen too, plus non guildies can also gang up on ventrilo or some other VOIP and go sync and arenanet wouldn't really know. Lots of people could be hitting the enter battle button at the same time. This doesn't mean nothing should still be done about it..
Dawn Angelheart
Match manipulation is only cared about in Gvg.
FoxBat
The syncing they are referring to is sync entering two champ-range guilds into a GvG match and throwing it one way or the other to farm champ points. Nothings going to be done against RA syncers.
Darcy
Most Match Manipulation is deciding ahead of time who will win the match. Then one team resigns or doesn't actually fight or makes sure to lose.
X Ghoul
LSX
so, its only gvg. FA, JQ, RA, and AB is allowable?
AB = 3 teams of 4 syncing at the same time.
AB = 3 teams of 4 syncing at the same time.
pinkeyflower
Deciding the outcome of a match before it has begun through various means. Match manipulation can exist in all forms of PvP but in terms of banning, Anet tends to focus on GvG before the other forms (AB, JQ, FA have small playerbases and aren't really PvP).
raddish
syncing in RA is really impossible to stop, and they therefore cant take any action. if they did try and challenge someone saying that they were syncing you can just say something stupid like "we just happened to be entering in RA at the same time" and they cant really disprove that, so your completely safe. all they care about is bots.
Missing HB
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Deciding the outcome of a match before it has begun through various means. Match manipulation can exist in all forms of PvP but in terms of banning, Anet tends to focus on GvG before the other forms (AB, JQ, FA have small playerbases and aren't really PvP).
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I personnaly consider ganking in hall of heroes match manipulation since you make sure one team will win .... Aswell , syncing in RA isn't completly manipulation , but if you sync there , you are sure you will win , thus it can also be manipulation...
@ raddish : ye , there isn't an easy way to fix syncing in RA , but was deleting TA a good and smart idea though ...
Fluffy Kittens
People still sync in Codex Arena for quick zquest or quick points isn't that a match manipulation?
Also.. yeah ganking in HoH should be punishable...imo it should be 72 hour ban for that kind of match manipulation because it's just kills the pleasure of playing anymore.
I know what I'm talking about.. after all I'm person who gets ganked in at least 50% HoH matches
Also.. yeah ganking in HoH should be punishable...imo it should be 72 hour ban for that kind of match manipulation because it's just kills the pleasure of playing anymore.
I know what I'm talking about.. after all I'm person who gets ganked in at least 50% HoH matches
lemming
The only form of match manipulation that they ban for is syncing in GvG for champ points.
Fluffy Kittens
But how is that different than syncing codex for honor points?
lemming
It isn't, they just don't care about it.
Missing HB
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The only form of match manipulation that they ban for is syncing in GvG for champ points.
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I don't know for how long people did complain of syncing in RA , whereas syncing in gvg was caught very fast and banned as fast aswell, and if you consider also that you can play all day RA and not get any glad point due to syncers...
pinkeyflower
I guess RA just isn't really important enough to implement banning. However, the nature of the arena makes the case of proving someone is syncing somewhat difficult. Someone could just be extremely lucky (A few times I've played in RA by myself and then suddenly 3/4 guildies show up on my team). Also, syncers could just move to another alliance guild so that it wouldn't be as obvious to their opponents that they were syncing. Blah blah blah, and then we end up with more QQ threads and some legitimate players being accidentally banned...
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Missing HB
I would like to know if people could get banned for doing the following ; this takes place in Heroes Ascent at dead hour :
My team is 8/8. 3 of us leave team fast , to make randomway , and rage quit just when zaishens are dead , in order to go back to previous team. That 8/8 team would go in very fast , and would fight for sure that randomway ( its dead hour ).
I noticed that when some guy did it , and found it very smart , in order to be sure to get halls 1v1 ( thus with antibuild or whatever...)
But my question is , it's match manipulation for sure but is it bannable ?
My team is 8/8. 3 of us leave team fast , to make randomway , and rage quit just when zaishens are dead , in order to go back to previous team. That 8/8 team would go in very fast , and would fight for sure that randomway ( its dead hour ).
I noticed that when some guy did it , and found it very smart , in order to be sure to get halls 1v1 ( thus with antibuild or whatever...)
But my question is , it's match manipulation for sure but is it bannable ?
Fluffy Kittens
no it aint but its the reason why Anet should do some changes... 8 months ago they announced new HoH map and where is it now? could someone tell me that please
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pinkeyflower
Missing HB
Such mentality lead to what pvp is atm... who cares of xx, who cares of xy. Actually , this can apply for ANY pvp format , ANY( ask pvers or 60% of pvpers if they do care of GvG especially , or even HA).
pinkeyflower
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Such mentality lead to what pvp is atm... who cares of xx, who cares of xy. Actually , this can apply for ANY pvp format , ANY( ask pvers or 60% of pvpers if they do care of GvG especially , or even HA).
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PvP is what it is like today due to age, power creep, cheaters, elitism, neglect on the part of the developer. Player apathy is only a small part.