Halloween Workshop [>2000k prize pot]

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

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Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

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Adding the 8"x10" signed print from my Halloween 2009 prize into the pool. I will pay for the shipping from me to whoever wins it. Tzu, you can decide on what prize pack to add it to.

Time to start sorting through mules and see what in-game items/funds I can donate.

Espadon

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State of the Nolani [gusy]

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Wait, so Espadon = Penguin? That's the most random assumption I've ever seen

Tzu

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the Espadon = Penguin thing was my fault. For some reason I must've mistaken his name for Penguins up there.


Just to clarify, the Pure Evil winner doesn't have to literally scare the judges, but it needs to be a quality piece of art (foremost) with an evil twist. It could be grotesque, creepy, cruel, but also gothic or evil in an artistic sense. A beautiful painting of Dhuum harvesting souls could be a solid candidate, even if it doesn't make us jump in our seats. Of course, if you do give us Guild Wars related nightmares, bonus points to you!

About the submission of several entries: I'm going to allow a maximum of 2 entries per person, and they can distribute them between categories as they wish. You don't have to aim toward a particular award though, or even make art from two different categories of art; if you have 2 good ideas you want to use, then use them. A participant can not win more than one award, but this has been a norm in the previous workshops as well, even if we didn't mention it. I just think it's fairly obvious that we avoid that.

As mentioned earlier: if we get enough writers I will make a dedicated award for them. If not, know that a good piece of literature has an equal chance to win as a beautiful painting, with the current judges.

That's an awesome donation, Kiya! X3 I will have to think about where to put it though... it might take a couple of days, so I have time to consider any other incoming donations as well. Then, the winner of the signed print should contact you, and only you, so there's always just a single person the winner has to provide his personal information to.

jensyea

jensyea

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Join Date: Nov 2009

The Underworld

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Really hope I can sumbit a story. Its the only creative thing I (think?) am good at.

razerbeak

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

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Name: Razerbeak
Art Form: Model
Idea: undecided
Progress Gallery: Will start one as my project begins
Artbook Award: [x]
Official Contest: [x]
Workshop Awards: [x]

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

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Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

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Ah phooey on cleaning, its just going to get messed up anyhow.

Progress for today, plushie head done. Mad King plush will be a mainly fleece creation. Which photographed rather oddly with the flash on.

Zacchius

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Join Date: Sep 2008

Us Are Not [leet]

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I added a link to mine, just made myself a new photobucket cuz I couldn't find my old one. First picture is already up, trying to add another, but my school's internet isn't cooperating. I'd like if I could get some comments on it before I launch into it, particularly about proportions and anatomy (especially the hands).

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

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USA

Kirins of Holy Light

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@ Zacchius. Good start! The two things that struck me as needing tweaking were his lower face on the left side and the arm on the right side of the page.
My opinion is that arm needs to be widened just a smudge and lowered.

Tzu

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Looks great already Kiya, I envy your perfect seams! X3 The fold on the chin stick out a bit though, but I really think that's just the angle. looking forward to seeing more of your project. ^^

Zacchius, I agree with Kiya's critique, but I also notice the thighs might be a little too short. If you elongate them a bit it should become more obvious which angle they are in as well. Looks good so far though, I like his hands. How do you plan to continue? Will it be a black & white piece, or are you going to add colour to it?

I added my own Progress Gallery as well, although for now it's mostly filled with reference images. I started on the vambraces today:



Straps and glove is in the making, but first I think I need to straighten out those silver lines. They're a bit wonky -_-'. I really want to go heavy with the weathering, to make them look really worn, but I don't know for sure. I suppose I should start out carefully. Oh, er, sorry about the crap quality of the picture btw. My webcam is the only thing that works >.<

Arghore

Arghore

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Join Date: Jun 2009

Tyria, Catacomb dweller..

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WooT, <3 this thread and im glad you are doing it again Tzu ... though im pretty amazed you donated all the prizes ... i wanted to notify you that ill be handing out a prize just like last year, it wont be the biggest ever but ill scrape together what I can miss ... the topic of the prize, just like last year, will be "In the spirit of halloween", based upon all the entries minus winners, I will personally pick the work of art that i find most 'in the spirit of halloween' (last year this was a starting artist that decorated their guild hall with texmod, not the best work of art ever/not to bad either, but totally 'in the spirit of halloween') ... @Tzu, if you would like to add this to the list of 'prizes' to be won, seeing you have allot of prizes allready and are bound to receive more donations, i'm willing to accept more judges for this prize, given they donate towards the prize ...

I will enter the competition myself aswell, just have some brainstorming to do and i allready feel like im lagging behind :P

Name: Arghore
Art Form: Digital Drawing (though i might start on paper)
Idea: something original that migth win me something
Progress Gallery: I will set something up shortly
Artbook Award: [-], i would so want a full book, but i have one with 2 'graphs' so im gonna go with collecting them myself ...
Official Contest: [x]
Workshop Awards: [x]

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

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Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

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@Kiya: Haha, that's awesome. Spot on with the face.

@Zacchius: Nice idea. I second Kiya in that his arms should be further off from his sides. At the moment, his posture is very upright and the arm positioning seems a bit static. Maybe add a slight forward lean in the upper body as well to make the stance seem a bit more natural.

@Tzu: I can only guess that you're doing a cosplay of Air. Looking forward to seeing it come about - your costumes are always awesome.

Zacchius

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Join Date: Sep 2008

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Thanks for the critique so far. I'll make the suggested changes.

@Tzu I *might* try to color it digitally, I don't have a tablet or anything so I don't know how well that'll work. And I've never done digital art before, so it's gonna be a stab in the dark for me if I do decide to do it. I don't have any physical color supplies with me, either, though I guess a trip to Target would remedy that. If the digital color doesn't pan out, it'll probably be black and white or maybe colored pencil, I don't think I could use paint. On a related note, the armor looks good so far. How are you doing it? Is it an etching? Paint? If you're applying something to a surface, perhaps a stencil could help with the wonky lines.

@Kiya Very nice, the face is flawless, and I would never have thought to make a plushie (regardless of my lack of skill at such a craft). The cloth folds actually make it look more pumpkin-y. I'm interested in seeing how the body turns out.

Usk Delt

Usk Delt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2010

@Zacchius im not an expert on digital painting, but if u have any kind of doubt about digital painting i would be pleased to help you .+

Hmm I have a problem now with my sketch... i want my dervish to take a position "ready to attack" but since I cant add face expression becouse its covered with the cape i dont know how to create that sensation of movement on all the body of the dervish... so i would like some suggestions about how to fix this xD.

Halp!

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

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I've decided to go with the idea I posted above. Here's a very crude sketch for what I'm doing - it's only relevant in terms of pose and proportions (note: I know the eyes and nose are too high and that the head is too big as well >.< that was due to me just wanting to get the basics down, and the reason for the hair is that I don't have a style in mind yet)

It's been over a year since I had drawn anything (last drawing project: late spring 09), so if it just stinks, let me know.

Zacchius

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@Usk

Maybe something like this?
http://s1003.photobucket.com/albums/...rent=halpa.jpg

Turn the torso a bit and have him winding back for a swing. Obviously his arm won't be that long, that's just to illustrate. Add some forward lean and (if you're drawing legs) a wide stance. Or go for an actual in-game stance, perhaps, if you just watch your dervish attack things and find something cool (like when they twirl their scythe above their head or something).

Arghore

Arghore

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Join Date: Jun 2009

Tyria, Catacomb dweller..

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WooT ... sleep depriviation high stimulated by coffee can actually stimulate creativity, apparently (dont try that at home kids :P ) ... so i got my Theme and my basic idea, now its getting some starting materials ...

Idea: G.A.D.D. -> Gamers Against Drunk Drivers, and well low and behold, to some it will be funny, others might find it scary and it will even be artwork with a message, and be halloween themed ... ... do realise i will need to do finding the bloodstone first though, to get some quality samples of 'Gadd'

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

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I've decided to go with the idea I posted above. Here's a very crude sketch for what I'm doing - it's only relevant in terms of pose and proportions (note: I know the eyes and nose are too high and that the head is too big as well >.< that was due to me just wanting to get the basics down, and the reason for the hair is that I don't have a style in mind yet)

It's been over a year since I had drawn anything (last drawing project: late spring 09), so if it just stinks, let me know.

Usk Delt

Usk Delt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2010

Thank you for your suggestios, I think I have what I want with the arms, but im now considering the option you gave me about the scythe on the back, i will see how the draw goes with the legs and the define a pose.

This is the new pose:

Minami

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Kiya: Awesome start! I love the vibrant color combo you chose, and the head looks super cool so far!

Tzu: Looking forward to see more of your costume! Always a treat to follow your costume making progress

As for myself, here's a linky to my progress gallery: http://artzone.daz3d.com/index.php?/.../va/&aid=53843

pic: Untextured model. Please note, that the camera angle is not the final one.

Konig Des Todes

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Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

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It's a good concept but lacks a little creativity. Everyone and their mother seen a guy licking a knife on TV. What you should REALLY focus on is the background.
To a point of the psychopathic licking the blade of the scythe looks directly at you in a way of, "By the way, your next." Like an entire Charr village burning, bodies on the ground with Gwen standing over a body, smiling with flames reflecting in her eyes. In the sky, have a vague image of a ghostly Dhuum looking down at his handwork and on the psychopaths shoulder a ghostly Dhuum hand. The full moon glows a radiant red.

Lastly, on the ghostly image of Dhuums hallow eyes it should say.
"A good person." on the left eye. "Is a dead one" on the right. Very interesting suggestions but unfortunately adding such details would be quite physically impossible for me. The actual piece will be by hand on 11" x 14" vellum (largest material that can fit in a scanner). (and it appears that I have an old drawing still in there, unfinished...)

As I noted prior, this isn't a typical "licking the blade" but rather cutting his tongue on the blade (as opposed to say, cutting one's wrist/palm). Though you're right that the general idea is overdone - part of the reasons why I wanted to think of something else, but my mind just keeps drawing blanks for something that can be "scary."

Wish I had a tablet. :/

Arghore

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Tyria, Catacomb dweller..

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@Konig, seeing you mention you find hardly anything scary, perhaps you shouldnt try to come up with something that you find scary .. but think of what you think other people find scary ... in this regard i found reading Killeen and 'Minions' rather amusing, esp with being used to playing Necro ... hope this subtle tune sparks some other ideas

Some more hands on advice, composition also has allot to do with scare + leaving parts out to be filled in by emagination ... this is more in the execution of the drawing, instead of the topic ... as with the right angle and some suggestion, you can make a My Little Pony look scary

Minami

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I always like when artists/writers leave the scary part to the imagination of the viewers/readers.
Because one's mind fills in the "blanks" with whatever is scariest to the individual.
For instance, in a movie, I much rather not see the monster at the end of the movie in full view, because a gigantic spider with blood dripping fangs is not scary to me. Rather imagine for myself what I find scary. Same goes for written stories and pictures.

Charlie Dayman

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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@Konig: Are you planning on just doing a portrait or are you also going to include the body? Maybe try approaching it from a different angle. I think doing a piece where there's a slight side profile view of the face would be slightly more interesting.

@Minami: You've been gone for far too long.

Minami

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Hey Charlie.

Ye I've been away from GW and GWG for a while now... Nice to be back and making pics

Usk Delt

Usk Delt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2010

@Konig: I would say that the eyes are the most important part on that drawing if u make it as a face portrait... becouse it can play with the viweres mind and give a scary or creepy "subliminal message", anyway the expresion of the eyes is really hard but im sure you can get a good one.

Konig Des Todes

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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@Arghore & Minami: I generally do try to go for the "hidden fear" - but given that I haven't drawn in a while, not sure if I should do that as, imo, in a visual still piece, it takes more work to instill fear on what isn't shown than to merely draw something scary. Unless you go the cheesy "hidden in the shadows/mist/fog" idea.

@Charlie & Usk: I was going to do a portrait, with a background of some kind (the pieces I'm practicing on, which includes what I put up before, are smaller than what I'll be using on the actual work by 2"x2" so I'd have more room), and I was going to have the guy smaller so I can show more. But looking through the thread, I'm rather surprisingly disappointed in the amount of Dhuum/Grenth/Thorn ideas going around - whether its suggestions or simply related to the three. Well, not that surprising, but still disappointed. So I'm dropping the idea I had and am going for something else.

Got an idea involving my elementalist going in my head. He's less of a sadistic scare tactic and more of a "pure destructive" scare tactic kind of personality. So we'll see where this leads me.

Edit: Wow... I'm making another sketch and decided to make it more detailed... my word, I am terrible at hands now it seems...

Oh_Frustration

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Join Date: Jun 2009

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Outin Omat [Outi]

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@ Usk: I think one way to depict a pose like the one you wished for would be a "charged" pose. Try this physically on yourself: Take the pose of the character you're drawing, maybe with a broomstick or such to simulate the scythe in your hands, then tense all your muscles at once and think what this does to your pose. Then draw the character the way it would look like if it used all its muscles at once. I've tried this a couple of times and it gives the pose a more realistic feel IMHO.

Looking neat so far, everyone

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

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Wow everyone is on it already D: I better get started too. Like I already said, I never stick to my ideas, thought of another one I'd really like, might aswell do them both, as they both very much interest them. I'll get scetching on them today.

And for the others already started, I can only say gogogo!

@ Minami. You're back Some feelings I had with your picc.. I think you either need to change the costume (the boots are a bit too modern too me) or make the face have a really grim expression. That however is just a feeling I got to your work, I don't know where your going so I might be totaly wrong

@Usk Delt. I think those scetches look good, just the pose might be a bit too simple/passive. When I was thinking how to flare it up a bit, I was thinking maybe the dervish could be slashing some pumpkins (you can interpreted whats with the pumkins, maybe they are attacking him) you get a fresh slashing animation, pieces of pumpkin flying everywher. Just a thought..


EDIT: Ok did something myself, figured i needed to get started. First scetch to give me a bit of an idea of the setting. And yes.. I changed my mind xD No more king Thorn (yet..). She will be eating/licking a candycane apple btw.



I made an album for the contest hear, in case someone wants to see all pictures more easily (still one pic now )
http://s741.photobucket.com/albums/x...Contest%20GWG/

Anyone has an idea what to let her wear? Atm thinking of either a small variant of Elite Kurzick memser armor, or some Ritualist for some tattoo's, which is more guildwarsish imo. Suggestions? :3

Zaph

Zaph

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Join Date: May 2008

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Name: Zaph
Art Form: Traditional Art ...
Idea: SECRET (will reveal as 50% of my work is done)
Progress Gallery: Soon to come... (on deviantArt...)

Artbook Award: [-]
Official Contest: [X] like many others, I'm here for teh lulz!
Workshop Awards: [X]

Minami

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Tommy, thanks for your advice.
Your pumpkin looks so cute! ^_^ I love how it has that plopped down and settled look. Looking forward to see more!

My pic so far only counts as a "study" in digital drawing would. The boots are the same mukluks as you can see on one of the GW2 Necro videos.
Expressions are not made yet.
The texturing will change the feel of the clothes, right now they're all stripped.

My character is wearing the same "gothic lolita" style clothes as the necro girl in the GW2 video. Only thing I changed is the hair, since I didn't like the mini-mohawk in the video. :S

Tzu

Tzu

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Join Date: Mar 2008

UK/norway

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Updated OP with links and new participants. I'm really thankful for all the people who have set up progress galleries already, it makes it easier for newcomers to this thread to catch up, and for the judges to browse the entries at the end of the workshop. You can add a progress gallery anytime before the workshop closes, but of course it helps to set one up early for the sake of getting attention and feedback.

@ Minami: I agree that the shoes could probably be altered a bit. I took a couple screenies of the necro in the Grasping Dead video:



here it looks like she's got mid-calf heels (I cant remember what theyre called XD) and that probably goes better with the gothic mesmer look.
I must admit though, I didn't know where you got the idea of the "pompoms" on the boots, but now I see them too:



Damn you have good eyes, I would never have noticed if I didnt screencap it by chance. Also, pin-striped leggings for awesomeness! I don't know if you've thought about it, or even if you're making that armour or something entirely new, but maybe you could add leggings like that. You're the artist though, you must make the choice as you see fit.

@ Tommy's: Contrary to Minami, I thought it was creepy (and sexy ) at first. I can kind of see how it would be cute too though I dont think that's a bad thing, just play around with it and see where it gets you. I think playful scary is a really cool concept.


EDIT: Russiansteven joined the panel of judges!

russiansteven

russiansteven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2008

In a chair

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@Tommy I love the drawing so far! It's very unique. I understand its just a sketch but right now but it's looking good :P

V A L O R

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2010

i know mine is REALY bad compared to everyone else but

Name: valor
Art Form: paint
Idea: dance
Progress Gallery: http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8108/74602296.png

Zacchius

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I just updated my progress. I tried to fix the stance/thighs as best I could without having to re-draw it entirely. The arm is fixed. I started filling in details and darkened the lines. Have a look and tell me what you think.

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

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Looks good :3 Just some points you could improve on:
-His left hand. I think his wrists should be bigger and the fingers should be longer. Creepy creatures often have long boney fingers, so I think making them longer would increase the creepiness.
-His right legg: I think his knee is too much to the side, perhabs make the angle of it a little bit different so it points a bit more inwards. Just a little bit though. And perhabs make its lower leg a bit more to the center of the image, might give him a bit more of a powerfull position.