I read the wiki guide on skill hunter and it says to first get all the core elite skills, which is what I've done. But after that, what is the most effecient way to cap the rest? By campaign, by class? So far I've been going by class, which means going down the list of each respective class and going out and capping those elite skill (such as all necros elites, then all rangers elites, etc...), but this requires a lot of bouncing around and map travel. Is it better just to get all the skills in a particular explorable area then move on to the next?
Do you keep a journal so you know which skills you have and which you still need? Or am I being too organized? lol.
Any advice would be awesome.
Thanks.
Best way to Legendary Skill hunter?
Laraja
HawkofStorms
I've done it by class. If you want to be real organized, the best thing to do is to go to a priest of bathazar, open up the skills sorted by elite status (that way all the elites will be together) and compare that to what you already have in your K menu.
But honestly, just starting out you wouldn't need to be that organized. You can kinda remember what you've done and what you still need when you are just starting out. I didn't bother doing what I did with the priest until I got to around 50 to go.
Other good tactics are if you do boss farming or chest running anyway (in hard mode) and collect up tomes and use them on the harder to get ones that only show up randomly in Phrophecies (stuff like mineral springs or RoF elites). I mean, if you are farming or doing something else anyways, you might as well work on multiple titles at once. Heck, if you can handle it, do all content in HM constantly. You might just get an elite tome when you kill the boss for the cap. And you can work on vanquishing/reputation at the same time. At least that's how I work on titles. I can't stay focused on one for long
But honestly, just starting out you wouldn't need to be that organized. You can kinda remember what you've done and what you still need when you are just starting out. I didn't bother doing what I did with the priest until I got to around 50 to go.
Other good tactics are if you do boss farming or chest running anyway (in hard mode) and collect up tomes and use them on the harder to get ones that only show up randomly in Phrophecies (stuff like mineral springs or RoF elites). I mean, if you are farming or doing something else anyways, you might as well work on multiple titles at once. Heck, if you can handle it, do all content in HM constantly. You might just get an elite tome when you kill the boss for the cap. And you can work on vanquishing/reputation at the same time. At least that's how I work on titles. I can't stay focused on one for long
Smarty
After capping elites on four characters (for skill title and for survivor) I found the best way was to go by area. Assuming you use a non-secondary-profession-specific build for capping, it's much faster to change your secondary than it is to re-add henchmen and change heroes to suit every time you zone, particularly in Factions where half the hench disappear when you switch between kurz and lux.
It helps to keep one of the wiki elite list pages open in the background while you're capping - no real need for paper or spreadsheet if you do this.
It helps to keep one of the wiki elite list pages open in the background while you're capping - no real need for paper or spreadsheet if you do this.
Kerwyn Nasilan
I went straight down the list, really its whatever you want to do. But if you dont stay organized it can be a bitch to figure out what your missing.
Lord Dagon
i made a list of every elite skill in the game by profession. Then i took those and found where all of them were. THEN. i organized them by places that would be most benificial to me staying in 1 place to cap skills. It took FOREVER, but it was organized.
khezial tahr
I am doing mine by location. that way you end up mapping most, if not all of the area at the same time. Also, it gets easier as you go along in an area and get to know it. To me this is faster. I gathered up all the Monk elites first and it took a while with all the bouncing around.
Also this might help- http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...pture_location
I went by individual campaign, starting in NF, but you get the idea.
Also this might help- http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...pture_location
I went by individual campaign, starting in NF, but you get the idea.
gremlin
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i made a list of every elite skill in the game by profession. Then i took those and found where all of them were. THEN. i organized them by places that would be most benificial to me staying in 1 place to cap skills. It took FOREVER, but it was organized.
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I would go with organising like this you only have to do it once.
Neith
I did it by area as well as profession BUT I would highly recommend doing tyria first or do the zaishen stuff for coins and get tomes to do tyria. That one was a pain in my butt. I also created a spreadsheet to keep track of the ones I capped and the ones I still needed
Eragon Selene
Elite Tomes............are your best friend 
Assuming you have the skills unlokced on your account. I bought 90% of the skill hunter title for my second char.
Assuming you have the skills unlokced on your account. I bought 90% of the skill hunter title for my second char.
MisterB
kupp
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Originally Posted by Laraja
I read the wiki guide on skill hunter and it says to first get all the core elite skills, which is what I've done. But after that, what is the most effecient way to cap the rest? By campaign, by class? So far I've been going by class, which means going down the list of each respective class and going out and capping those elite skill (such as all necros elites, then all rangers elites, etc...), but this requires a lot of bouncing around and map travel. Is it better just to get all the skills in a particular explorable area then move on to the next?
Do you keep a journal so you know which skills you have and which you still need? Or am I being too organized? lol. Any advice would be awesome. Thanks. |
2. Capture Factions/Nightfall skills afterwards. Keep an eye on EOTN since many skills from the two campaigns show up in the expansion, and might be easier to get in there.
3. Capture all Prophecies skills. And all the ones you can get from EOTN with less hassle than from the campaign, get them from there.
Anyway it's easy capping elites, the real challenge will be Prophecies since bosses don't spawn on fixed locations, you can go checking the same spot 20 times in a row and still not get the boss you want. It's not difficult, but it's frustrating and boring like hell. So any skills you can get from Eotn, get them from there and leave Prophecie's for those that don't show up anywhere else.
As for tips, just keep an eye on any specific skills you want and if in that area there's skills both from your main and secondary professions, or two or more skills any of those two professions. So if you're a Necro, keep an eye out for areas where Necro skills and whatever else exist, and how many of them are in total (you can only carry 3 signets at the same time).
Good luck. Factions, Nightfall and EOTN will actually be enjoyable hunting down bosses and what not, if you're into that. Prophecies will have you smashing your head into the monitor.
I actually got quite a few of those from Elite tomes because it was simply too damn frustrating trying to capture some elites from there (mainly those in the Ring of Fire and a lot of them in the Souther Shiverpeaks). Also, use Mapping Out because it's nothing short of a god send for that title. A few of the elites on the program are off by location or by boss, so it wouldn't hurt to check the official wiki to compare them as you go.
Fate Crusher
Either way, it's the easiest 4 max titles you'll ever get.
Organisation is needed, but it's not hard to compare a Wiki list and one that is missing a few Elite Skills. Core indeed would be advised to start with first, probably to dip your fingers into the repetitiveness of the capping. Or you can do it at the end to make the homestretch that much easier.
Defenitely look into whether it is possible to cap 2/3 skills in the area at the same time. But also look into which area would be the easiest to cap the elite. The shortest route sometimes isn't the easiest.
Personally I found capping elites as an assassin in Nightfall and Tyria extremely easy (Even though I left Tyria till last because of the random boss spawns), with my only problem with the elite skills around Unwaking Waters in Factions, where I had to actually bother to build a decent 8-man HH team. Tyria does get slightly annoying with the random spawns of bosses, but you get used to it and you basically just farm the run to one of the possible spawns and just repeat until they spawn there (Ice floe springs to mind). Surprisingly Ring of Fire elites were easy for me to run to the spawns, compared to Ice Floe and that other annoying snowy area beside Granite Citadel with all the Tengu, the name escapes me, I'm not on GW.
And EoTN helps a lot too.
Good luck!
Organisation is needed, but it's not hard to compare a Wiki list and one that is missing a few Elite Skills. Core indeed would be advised to start with first, probably to dip your fingers into the repetitiveness of the capping. Or you can do it at the end to make the homestretch that much easier.
Defenitely look into whether it is possible to cap 2/3 skills in the area at the same time. But also look into which area would be the easiest to cap the elite. The shortest route sometimes isn't the easiest.
Personally I found capping elites as an assassin in Nightfall and Tyria extremely easy (Even though I left Tyria till last because of the random boss spawns), with my only problem with the elite skills around Unwaking Waters in Factions, where I had to actually bother to build a decent 8-man HH team. Tyria does get slightly annoying with the random spawns of bosses, but you get used to it and you basically just farm the run to one of the possible spawns and just repeat until they spawn there (Ice floe springs to mind). Surprisingly Ring of Fire elites were easy for me to run to the spawns, compared to Ice Floe and that other annoying snowy area beside Granite Citadel with all the Tengu, the name escapes me, I'm not on GW.
And EoTN helps a lot too.
Good luck!
Dzjudz
I did it per class per campaign (i.e. monk in prophecies, ranger in prophecies, elementalist in prophecies, etc, monk in factions, ranger in factions, elementalist in factions, etc)
xxfah
Like others, I did it by campaign broken down by profession. I actually went super-organized and made a spreadsheet with all of the skill names, easiest-to-find bosses, locations, etc. Then I started capping the core skills (saving one for last because I thought ending on a core skill seemed fitting), and moved on to Prophecies (because it's f'ing INFURIATING). After that, Factions and Nightfall were a breeze, just took some time and money. And patience.
Zoning and re-adding henchmen did become a bit of a hassle after a while, but it was more frustrating when I'd forget to change secondaries or throw in a sig before running through the portal. (And, of course, I didn't even notice until I'd killed the boss...)
Zoning and re-adding henchmen did become a bit of a hassle after a while, but it was more frustrating when I'd forget to change secondaries or throw in a sig before running through the portal. (And, of course, I didn't even notice until I'd killed the boss...)
preimmortal
I did this by first capping all my main profession skills (necro) [note this was only needed to make things easier on myself so I wouldnt have to check every area for double caps]. After capping all main prof skills, I got all core skills, then I started getting all of prophecies skills by profession, then did the same for factions and nightfall. To give you a timing reference:
Prophecies took 2 days to complete (because of random spawns and annoying caps.. tomes highly recommended) (16 hrs of capping skills)
Factions took 1 day to complete (7 hrs of capping skills)
Nightfall took 1 day to complete (9 hrs of capping skills)
Prophecies took 2 days to complete (because of random spawns and annoying caps.. tomes highly recommended) (16 hrs of capping skills)
Factions took 1 day to complete (7 hrs of capping skills)
Nightfall took 1 day to complete (9 hrs of capping skills)
chowmein69
I go down the list on wiki for each class and campaign . For the longer caps like on tyria i use elite tomes
Wyndy
I went by area too. I wrote down each skill needed and took great pleasure in crossing them off. Also did that for vanquishing.
-Vodka-
I went by area, also. I ticked off each skill as I capped it and found this way to be really easy and efficient. All you have to remember to do is to change your secondary profession for each boss each time you leave the outpost.
khezial tahr
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Also, save yourself the trouble of creating a list elites by using- http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ist-id1682.php
Using that with/or instead of the link I gave above (elites by capture location) makes this as easy as it could be.
rokocoko
I capped my elites ordering them by (1) campaign and by (2) profession. Also I used EotN as much as I could, the bosses locations being many times easier to reach in this case. I started with Factions and finished with Prophecies. To ease things up, I did all in normal mode.
Also, the wiki page with the list of all elite skills was great for keeping track of all the capped skills, no writing was needed.
Also, the wiki page with the list of all elite skills was great for keeping track of all the capped skills, no writing was needed.
Hobbs
I just went down this list on the official wiki: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...ls_by_campaign
S00per Dave
I went by area. Just because you could resign when you capped something, add a cap sig and then zone out again. That minimized the setup if you had to map around and lose henchies. Started in the hardest areas first and worked my way to the beginning. The Mapping Out tool helped immensely.
Silmar Alech
First, I made a capping build without secondary class and saved it to a template.
Then I went by area. First started with all Kourna areas and then Vabbi. Then headed over to Factions. Some skills could be captured from WiK bosses in Prophecies. I used a german tool called Visions to check all captured elites, but I assume the Mapping Out tool performes the same.
In the end, some Prophecies skills were missing that could only be obtained in the missions, as well as some bosses in The Desolation/Realm of Torment of Nightfall. I always save all my tomes from playing in hard mode, so I used these to avoid playing the longer Prophecies missions over and over again until that boss appears. Or digging my way through the end of Nightfall.
very good time for a few early bosses: 1 min
good time for a boss: 3-5 min
fair time for a boss later on: 10 min
needs a tome: more than 15 min
Then I went by area. First started with all Kourna areas and then Vabbi. Then headed over to Factions. Some skills could be captured from WiK bosses in Prophecies. I used a german tool called Visions to check all captured elites, but I assume the Mapping Out tool performes the same.
In the end, some Prophecies skills were missing that could only be obtained in the missions, as well as some bosses in The Desolation/Realm of Torment of Nightfall. I always save all my tomes from playing in hard mode, so I used these to avoid playing the longer Prophecies missions over and over again until that boss appears. Or digging my way through the end of Nightfall.
very good time for a few early bosses: 1 min
good time for a boss: 3-5 min
fair time for a boss later on: 10 min
needs a tome: more than 15 min
Sethellington
I divided by campaign, then sub divided into classes (make sure you've completed all games before, and having every single outpost helps). So basically, I started in Cantha, did all Nec skills, then War, then Ranger etc. So just go on wiki's Elite Skills list and open a new tab for each skills by profession, and find the boss with the shortest distance to spawn location. I did Cantha, then NF, then Tyria. Think I used 1 elite tome in Tyria to cap Greater Conflagration cos it's a pain in the ass. Good luck! It's a fun title My fave definitely
My fave definitely
tcratty
i went by class right down the list and i printed out a list of the elite skills and just checked them off as i got them jumping around the map seemed easier to me then checking what zones had what skills
TheodenKing
More than one way to skin a cat. I felt it made sense to cap skills by area. You become more effecient each time you re-enter to get a different elite, since you have already looked at the map and the enemy list on wiki, and re-familiarized yourself with the terrain and spawns, etc.
Masmar
I tried going by area, but quickly got annoyed by recurring elites, and i switched to doing it by profession and just going down the list on wiki ticking them off
Jk Arrow
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1. Capture all the core skills first, and find the easiest locations for those.
2. Capture Factions/Nightfall skills afterwards. Keep an eye on EOTN since many skills from the two campaigns show up in the expansion, and might be easier to get in there. 3. Capture all Prophecies skills. And all the ones you can get from EOTN with less hassle than from the campaign, get them from there. |
It's a fun title, enjoy and good luck!
Laraja
Hey everyone. Great suggestions.
Since I have all the core skills, what I find to be the easiest is capping by area, so, as someone mentioned, I'm not mapping all over the place and changing my henchmen/hero setup. Most bosses, fortunately, are pretty easy to get to, for the more difficult I'll use tomes as suggested.
I've started with Factions and will move on to Elona and then Tyria. Although, if I'm doing something in a particular area (like a vanq with guildies etc...) I'll go ahead and cap if there's a skill I need.
I tried to download MappingOut, but none of the files I click on seem to be valid. Getting error message that the file/website doesn't exist. Whatever. I'll keep looking. I"m sure there's a new link posted on the community area of Guru.
*sigh* Working my way to GWAMM...
Since I have all the core skills, what I find to be the easiest is capping by area, so, as someone mentioned, I'm not mapping all over the place and changing my henchmen/hero setup. Most bosses, fortunately, are pretty easy to get to, for the more difficult I'll use tomes as suggested.
I've started with Factions and will move on to Elona and then Tyria. Although, if I'm doing something in a particular area (like a vanq with guildies etc...) I'll go ahead and cap if there's a skill I need.
I tried to download MappingOut, but none of the files I click on seem to be valid. Getting error message that the file/website doesn't exist. Whatever. I'll keep looking. I"m sure there's a new link posted on the community area of Guru.
*sigh* Working my way to GWAMM...
Bathal Nasp
Here's the working link for MappingOut
http://cid-4c18f032b8b2e1b0.skydrive...e.aspx/.Public
Like many other people I used it for my skill hunting, it's by far the best tool out there.
http://cid-4c18f032b8b2e1b0.skydrive...e.aspx/.Public
Like many other people I used it for my skill hunting, it's by far the best tool out there.
Laraja
Thanks Bathal, that worked perfect.
And WOW, what an amazing tool. I've been playing with it, getting used to it and will start using it in ernest once I finish farming this grog. => Avast Mateys!
And WOW, what an amazing tool. I've been playing with it, getting used to it and will start using it in ernest once I finish farming this grog. => Avast Mateys!