Hi All
With all the recent account bans regarding bot farming and the such, a lot of the usual money making means are becoming somewhat of a hazard.
Just like a bot a player farming the same area over and over again gets to a point when the farm becomes second nature and the moves become nearly identical each time, because of this unless you vary the play style each time you farm, accounts are being banned for botting, even if they are not.
I am a casual player only and to be honest the only farms I have done is either feathers or Vaettirs and only for maybe an hour or 2 at a time.
I had stopped playing for a while there and just really started up again and created a couple of new characters to play with, I am now at the point where I want to kit them out but dont have the funds.
Playing through the campaigns and selling the loot ect doesnt really net much of a profit, also being a solo player, dungeons and the like arnt the easiest options.
So I guess my question is, is farming still the most viable means of making money even with the appharent botting bans or is there better ways to make money nowadays to afford the good stuff like armour and weapons.
Cheers
Druid
Farming Issues, Botting Bans
1druid1
AexIndex
Zkeys are the best way to make money...
Simple take a PvP character do some AT's, MaT's or farm the GvG/HA quest.
You can use the coins/rp's to make your character look better and you make tons of money by selling the zkeys.
Simple take a PvP character do some AT's, MaT's or farm the GvG/HA quest.
You can use the coins/rp's to make your character look better and you make tons of money by selling the zkeys.
Missing HB
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Originally Posted by AexIndex
Simple take a PvP character do some AT's, MaT's .
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You can also do RA quest ( if you are ok at monk , it shouldn't be a problem to make 3 wins fast i guess..). Otherwise , you can still do the 6k factions points each day on zaishen defy .
Spiritz
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Originally Posted by 1druid1
Hi All
With all the recent account bans regarding bot farming and the such, a lot of the usual money making means are becoming somewhat of a hazard. Just like a bot a player farming the same area over and over again gets to a point when the farm becomes second nature and the moves become nearly identical each time, because of this unless you vary the play style each time you farm, accounts are being banned for botting, even if they are not. |
Way i do things when farming is do diff farms - instead of say 8hrs broken into 3 hrs vaetires 2 hrs xxx and 3 hrs xxx do a few runs of each then swap an swap again.I dont think theres a bot that is programmed to do farm switching auto so that way we shudnt show as "bots".
Most bots are also spotted via actions or stupidity ( cant walk round a post so it sticks in outpost) - actions would be the exact route each time but us humans dont make exact route nor almost exact time.
Bot may take say 5 mins on a set route each time with maybe a few secs diff - a human player wont take exact route , may take a few steps one way an routes altered or phone goes etc and they stop and chat then resume so human time varies a lot.
Astral_Nomad
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Originally Posted by Spiritz
I dont think we`re much of a threat on bans on a lot of farms - look at w/n an raptores and ive not heard of them gettin bot bans thru suspicious actions.
Way i do things when farming is do diff farms - instead of say 8hrs broken into 3 hrs vaetires 2 hrs xxx and 3 hrs xxx do a few runs of each then swap an swap again.I dont think theres a bot that is programmed to do farm switching auto so that way we shudnt show as "bots". Most bots are also spotted via actions or stupidity ( cant walk round a post so it sticks in outpost) - actions would be the exact route each time but us humans dont make exact route nor almost exact time. Bot may take say 5 mins on a set route each time with maybe a few secs diff - a human player wont take exact route , may take a few steps one way an routes altered or phone goes etc and they stop and chat then resume so human time varies a lot. |
Arduin
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...t10452416.html
Not saying the ban was because of the OP farming.
Not saying the ban was because of the OP farming.
lemming
Between Guru threads and Gaile's support page, there's been a lot of false positives, as much as Gaile would like to downplay it.
dark_slayer
My secondary mule account got banned for botting. I haven't used the account in about 4 months. Except to trade stuff to my primary. Tryed to appeal ban with no luck. And no I never botted.
That account is linked to the same NCsoft master account as my primary, but yet my primary is not banned........Im afraid very afraid.
That account is linked to the same NCsoft master account as my primary, but yet my primary is not banned........Im afraid very afraid.
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by lemming
Between Guru threads and Gaile's support page, there's been a lot of false positives, as much as Gaile would like to downplay it.
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Stay away from raptor farming and ToPK farming, and you'll probably be fine. Do dungeon runs or speed clears, people don't seem to be getting banned for those as much.
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That account is linked to the same NCsoft master account as my primary, but yet my primary is not banned........Im afraid very afraid.
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If nothing else, you should request a refund. Many people (including many botters) have gotten refunds.
Miss Puddles
If you think there is a chance that what you are doing ingame is going to result in a false positive for botting, don't do it.
If you get wrongfully banned, keep appealing.
Other than that, I don't know what else to tell you that hasn't been said in the many other threads about this exact issue.
If you get wrongfully banned, keep appealing.
Other than that, I don't know what else to tell you that hasn't been said in the many other threads about this exact issue.
Iuris
Me, I usually take the "I was banned but never botted!" posts with a large grain of salt and doubt all those people really were banned in error.
It's become a pattern for people who get banned to get on forums and complain about it, protesting innocence and pressuring Anet to reinstate their accounts.
Heh, I'd hazard a guess that Anet's staff unbanned some of those just to finally shut them up and be able to get on with the real work...
It's become a pattern for people who get banned to get on forums and complain about it, protesting innocence and pressuring Anet to reinstate their accounts.
Heh, I'd hazard a guess that Anet's staff unbanned some of those just to finally shut them up and be able to get on with the real work...
Errant Venture
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Me, I usually take the "I was banned but never botted!" posts with a large grain of salt and doubt all those people really were banned in error.
It's become a pattern for people who get banned to get on forums and complain about it, protesting innocence and pressuring Anet to reinstate their accounts. Heh, I'd hazard a guess that Anet's staff unbanned some of those just to finally shut them up and be able to get on with the real work... |
AngelWJedi
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Me, I usually take the "I was banned but never botted!" posts with a large grain of salt and doubt all those people really were banned in error.
It's become a pattern for people who get banned to get on forums and complain about it, protesting innocence and pressuring Anet to reinstate their accounts. Heh, I'd hazard a guess that Anet's staff unbanned some of those just to finally shut them up and be able to get on with the real work... |
Karate Jesus
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funny i was one of the people falsely banned long time ago for gold selling. turns out from what i got from gaile and others it was a mistake on their end. so no not every i was banned is a botter. xD so 50/50 of the time it is a innocent person.
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Both times I was able to prove that my account had never been involved in either activity. It's a bit ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Astral_Nomad
with a bot, the numbers are consistent every time.
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afya
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Originally Posted by AngelWJedi
funny i was one of the people falsely banned long time ago for gold selling. turns out from what i got from gaile and others it was a mistake on their end. so no not every i was banned is a botter. xD so 50/50 of the time it is a innocent person.
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lets assume my friend really sells gold which i don't think she would, Anet still bans 2 innocent accounts. So probably 66/33 thats innocent XD
jray14
You can follow the advice in the money-making sticky at
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...t10438248.html
and I would add z mission/bounty/combat quests to the list.
Yeah, it's a bummer they're so sloppy with their bot detection, and that they keep on insisting they're perfect.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...t10438248.html
and I would add z mission/bounty/combat quests to the list.
Yeah, it's a bummer they're so sloppy with their bot detection, and that they keep on insisting they're perfect.
RedDog91
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Originally Posted by Errant Venture
farm in an empty asian district where there aren't players /reporting every player they see more than twice.
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Shayne Hawke
Get really good at Snowball, wait about three months, and start dominating DvG tournaments so that you can rake in 20-50 Z-Keys every eight hours. Totally safe.
Errant Venture
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Get really good at Snowball, wait about three months, and start dominating DvG tournaments so that you can rake in 20-50 Z-Keys every eight hours. Totally safe.
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Chrissie Quickdraw
Ignorance and Stupidity are also reasons why people use /report. I've had a CoF runner blaming "bots and hacks" on agro problems and why he kept dying. In reality he was placing his heroes to close, but he was convinced someone was screwing with him.
In the end Vaettirs seem safest to me. There's no rezoning into any outpost after you leave longeye's. And if you bring merch stones, you never have to go back till the end of the day. And I doubt any bot will be able to pickup all 60 vaettirs on every run like a human can, considering how they can spawn and taking the occasional rubberbanding into account with which a bot could not handle imo.
In the end Vaettirs seem safest to me. There's no rezoning into any outpost after you leave longeye's. And if you bring merch stones, you never have to go back till the end of the day. And I doubt any bot will be able to pickup all 60 vaettirs on every run like a human can, considering how they can spawn and taking the occasional rubberbanding into account with which a bot could not handle imo.
Errant Venture
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In the end Vaettirs seem safest to me. There's no rezoning into any outpost after you leave longeye's. And if you bring merch stones, you never have to go back till the end of the day. And I doubt any bot will be able to pickup all 60 vaettirs on every run like a human can, considering how they can spawn and taking the occasional rubberbanding into account with which a bot could not handle imo.
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YunSooJin
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Originally Posted by Errant Venture
You'd be very surprised at the capabilities of a well-designed bot ;P
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enlighten us
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Doesn't have as good of a ring to it as the original but it works.