So I was looking at the account-wide Hall of Monuments and I realized that if you want to unlock Elite Imperial and Elite Exotic you need an Assassin or Ritualist.
According to http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Resilience%22#Statues
To unlock all:
* Warrior (silvereagle) and if you buy all sets then you need Granite Citadel Elite Armor (Mesmer Elite Noble, Elementalist Elite Flameforged, Ranger elite Fur-Lined, Monk Flowing)
* Assassin/Ritualist
So:
W, A / Rt, Me / E / R / Mo (with a bias towards Mo, due to number of sets)
Also:
W: 17 sets (due to elite Templar and Silvereagle)
Mo: 16 sets (due to Labyrinthine)
N: 16 sets (due to Elite Profane / "15k tormentor's")
R: 15 sets
Me: 15 sets
E: 15 sets
A: 11 sets
Rt: 11 sets
P: 8 sets
D: 8 sets
Edit: We still don't know if Obsidian gives extra benefits, nor do we know the tier of minipets has any effect.
Accountwide HoM and those lacking Assassins/Rits in PVE
LifeInfusion
Essence Snow
Plz clarify your point or what you are trying to discuss.
Iuris
I think he's pointing out that not all professions have access to all armors. IE, core professions have most, but expansion professions only have their own expansion armors + later expansion armors availabe.
IE, there's no Marhan's grotto elite prophecies armor for an assassin available.
P.S. presumably he's worried how many points he can get from the armors for the GW2 legacy. Me, I expect you'll be limited to 0-5 points anyway...
IE, there's no Marhan's grotto elite prophecies armor for an assassin available.
P.S. presumably he's worried how many points he can get from the armors for the GW2 legacy. Me, I expect you'll be limited to 0-5 points anyway...
Femmefatal
Sounds like he's talking about PVP cheap armor sets.
Shayne Hawke
He's saying that if you want to have every armor set in your HoM, then the only way of getting the Exotic or Imperial sets is if you have a PvE Assassin or Ritualist.
Not sure why that matters though.
Not sure why that matters though.
LifeInfusion
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P.S. presumably he's worried how many points he can get from the armors for the GW2 legacy. Me, I expect you'll be limited to 0-5 points anyway...
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Regardless, we don't know if Obsidian armor will confer different benefits. From PvP rewards it seems like it will but then again elite Canthan and EoTN armors are basic! (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/PvP_reward#Fancy_armor)
I really look forward to the information that they will provide on the Hall of Monuments transfer system as I see no reason to buy Obsidian otherwise and no reason to make an assassin or ritualist that I will not play regularly.
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He's saying that if you want to have every armor set in your HoM, then the only way of getting the Exotic or Imperial sets is if you have a PvE Assassin or Ritualist.
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At the moment Guild Wars' Hall of Monuments is heavily favorable to warrior mains with Ritualist and Monk alts.
Polgara Val
I think once you a pass certain number of armor sets getting them all might turn out rather irrelevant in terms of whats needed for HoM, Anet are smart enough to realise not everyone will spend there time purchasing every single armor for every single proffesion.
Pol
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WnxChild
Will probably range from 0-5 points, as the monument is
with 5 elite armors. Then you'll probably have some additional points for Obsidian Armor.
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Shayne Hawke
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We don't know if having certain sets confers certain benefits.
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FengShuiDove
...so? If you've been playing for any length of time, another set of elite armor is nothing. I purchased Elite Exotic for Rit, despite it being one of the ugliest armors in the game, just to have a set of every elite armor. I split it up a long time ago so I could have one of each and not buy too many multiples. I think I have two pairs of Elite Kurzick because I love the Sin/Rit ones and two pairs of Luxon for Sin/Ele, but otherwise I have one of each.
I'll post what I bought later on. Off the top of my head:
Assassin - Kurzick, Luxon, Norn, Ancient, Asuran
Ritualist - Exotic, Kurzick, Imperial
Elementalist - Obsidian, Luxon
Warrior - Primeval, Vanguard (forget the name)
Paragon - Vabbian
Mesmer - Noble (Granite Citadel)
Monk - Somethin... the non-tattoo armor from (Marhan's Grotto)
Necro - Sunspear
Dervish - Whichever one is left
I'll post what I bought later on. Off the top of my head:
Assassin - Kurzick, Luxon, Norn, Ancient, Asuran
Ritualist - Exotic, Kurzick, Imperial
Elementalist - Obsidian, Luxon
Warrior - Primeval, Vanguard (forget the name)
Paragon - Vabbian
Mesmer - Noble (Granite Citadel)
Monk - Somethin... the non-tattoo armor from (Marhan's Grotto)
Necro - Sunspear
Dervish - Whichever one is left
Gill Halendt
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At the moment Guild Wars' Hall of Monuments is heavily favorable to warrior mains with Ritualist and Monk alts.
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The account-wide HoM is likely what counts to get rewards in GW2, so you can still get any armor model to your HoM if you really want to.
Jk Arrow
As I've said in another HoM thread I bought 1 of each of the 20 available armor types just to make sure. Who knows if it was worth the money or not but armor is fun regardless.
It sounds as though you are disappointed that a player cannot "fill" the hall with just one character class. Meaninig it requires several classes to get all available armors. I personally would be bored out of my mind if I didn't have a variety of characters to use. If that means it requires players to purchase Factions or NF other than Eotn and Proph, well that's good marketing to me...but now that the whole set is $20 cost is largely irrelavant.
It sounds as though you are disappointed that a player cannot "fill" the hall with just one character class. Meaninig it requires several classes to get all available armors. I personally would be bored out of my mind if I didn't have a variety of characters to use. If that means it requires players to purchase Factions or NF other than Eotn and Proph, well that's good marketing to me...but now that the whole set is $20 cost is largely irrelavant.
Black Metal
so this discussion is totally open-ended until the big HoM announcment comes which they are taking their sweet time in giving to us, though have teased it a few times.
I'm sure there will be lots to discuss then, but until then it's all speculation and wants and not wants.
I'm sure there will be lots to discuss then, but until then it's all speculation and wants and not wants.
cosyfiep
if you are in doubt, go ahead and get the rit armor (no need for all the tomes and stuff since you can basically do most of rit with an sos build--so one elite)....
I got my rit boy the elite imperial though he never wears it and my lady rit has the elite exotic (also never sees the light of day).....
and yeah got my warrior the silver eagle just for the monument (though I do kinda like it---)....
but I believe as has been said, it probably wont really mater---just a full HoM (so 5 armors) is what they require for now...anything else is well, just extra (until we find out ...at which time I will fork out for the buttugly fow).....
I got my rit boy the elite imperial though he never wears it and my lady rit has the elite exotic (also never sees the light of day).....
and yeah got my warrior the silver eagle just for the monument (though I do kinda like it---)....
but I believe as has been said, it probably wont really mater---just a full HoM (so 5 armors) is what they require for now...anything else is well, just extra (until we find out ...at which time I will fork out for the buttugly fow).....
Dzjudz
Yeah I got my female assassin the elite exotic armor just to fill my HoM with every possible armor set. You'll need multiple core classes to do this anyway (only core classes can access prophecies armor and you need more than one class to get all prophecies armor sets). I essentially made a warrior just to get the silver eagle armor to fill the monument (although he has come in handy with event raptor farming).
I just spread out the 20 elite armor sets over all my character with my main having 5+ armor sets (so I have a 'full' monument on a single character as well).
I just spread out the 20 elite armor sets over all my character with my main having 5+ armor sets (so I have a 'full' monument on a single character as well).
kryptina
Just when I thought to resurrect the original HoM thread to piss everyone off, and put everyone on edge again...
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LifeInfusion
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At the moment, the possibility to switch to account-wide visualization voids this point.
The account-wide HoM is likely what counts to get rewards in GW2, so you can still get any armor model to your HoM if you really want to. |
P.S. I hate playing a character on the exact same thing over and over again. That's why I have alts. But when EoTN rolled in, the title grind with reputation was a bit much. Plus, since I actually do secondary quests on my characters that becomes time consuming (especially in Nightfall). I made it a policy to not make PVE non-core characters and it seems it is a moot point now with the Exotic/Imperial being Factions mains only.
FoxBat
The old "fill the display" argument should have been thoroughly invalidated by now. Not only do you NOT need a "full" display to get rewards in GW2, each item displayed in a monument awards you "points" for something in GW2. Whether certain items are worth more than others, or whether rewards are split in category according to the monument, is not known... although there was vague mention that "extreme" achievements will be rewarded, which I would read as items not all having the same value.
Essence Snow
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The old "fill the display" argument should have been thoroughly invalidated by now. Not only do you NOT need a "full" display to get rewards in GW2, each item displayed in a monument awards you "points" for something in GW2. Whether certain items are worth more than others, or whether rewards are split in category according to the monument, is not known... although there was vague mention that "extreme" achievements will be rewarded, which I would read as items not all having the same value.
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kryptina
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What would be considered "extreme acheivements"?
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Obviously some will say GWAMM isnt too extreme or hard, and some will say something like treasure/wisdom are more extreme than GWAMM alone but I think the GW2 developers are looking at the titles and using the word "extreme" pretty generally.
MArcSinus
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Probably like GWAMM, or max PvP titles.
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Polgara Val
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Well I dunno, I always see lots of GWAMMs running around, but maybe thas also because only a lot of hardcore players have remained.
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FengShuiDove
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Probably like GWAMM, or max PvP titles.
Obviously some will say GWAMM isnt too extreme or hard, and some will say something like treasure/wisdom are more extreme than GWAMM alone but I think the GW2 developers are looking at the titles and using the word "extreme" pretty generally. |
Because of this, I think GWAMM is the "highest" achievable title that can be displayed via the Hall of Monuments. r3 Champ is probably harder, but it's not displayable as "max."
There might be (read: should be) higher rewards for Champ than Kurzick, or even a title that requires max to display but isn't exactly difficult, like Sweet Tooth. But GWAMM is, perhaps not legitimately, going to be the highest thing you can get.
Minis are much the same. Shiro is not even close to Kanaxai, but I do think it should be split by item rarity, not actual supply/demand.
Armors are the most legitimate shrine, since they're all in the same basic range. Obby will be highest, Vabbian and a few other high-cost ones next, etc. Maybe 3 levels will be represented.
Saldonus Darkholme
I'm thinking people are reading WAAAAAY too much in the limited amount of information given. The only "uber-achievements" I can see ANet rewarding players for is maybe completing the elite content, ie The Deep, Urggoz Warren, DoA, and Slaver's.
Or, perhaps acquiring as many trophies for your Hall as are possible. Or, maxing those titles that give you a trophy without maxing the title (Luxon/Kurzick).
I've not read aything that suggested there was a requirement of obtaining FoW Armor for your character, just a requirement of obtaining 5 elite armor sets.
Or, perhaps acquiring as many trophies for your Hall as are possible. Or, maxing those titles that give you a trophy without maxing the title (Luxon/Kurzick).
I've not read aything that suggested there was a requirement of obtaining FoW Armor for your character, just a requirement of obtaining 5 elite armor sets.