Crisis in Cantha
dts720666
So there was "War in Kryta" and they just hinted at something called "Crisis in Cantha" for Guild Wars Beyond (http://www.arena.net/blog/oppressors...l-of-monuments)
After this, I imagine there will be something with Nightfall also....Emergency in Elona?
After this, I imagine there will be something with Nightfall also....Emergency in Elona?
Karate Jesus
I think this thread is a bit premature. There is another thread discussing the blog post and the Oppressor's weapons, and the name given to the Canthan GW:B was a joke, if nothing else.
I think it's too soon to discuss this, considering that we have zero details.
I think it's too soon to discuss this, considering that we have zero details.
dts720666
I think it's more than just a joke:
Sure, it might not be called "Crisis in Cantha" but there appears to definitely be a next chapter to GW:B. But you're right. There's not much to discuss until we know more details.
It's fun to speculate, however. For example, will a NF chapter follow? Will the rewards be Oppressor Weapons again? Will Thackeray surface in Cantha?
And most of all...is the time they are spending on GW:B development pushing back the release of GW2? WiK took, what, about 6 months? If "Crisis in Cantha" (or whatever it's called) also takes 6 months, and then they do a Nightfall chapter (also 6 months?), does that mean we are at least 1 year away from GW2?
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We’ll be talking more in the coming weeks about how your feedback affects the next chapter in Guild Wars Beyond, “Crisis in Cantha”—it’s not really named this…at least not yet. |
It's fun to speculate, however. For example, will a NF chapter follow? Will the rewards be Oppressor Weapons again? Will Thackeray surface in Cantha?
And most of all...is the time they are spending on GW:B development pushing back the release of GW2? WiK took, what, about 6 months? If "Crisis in Cantha" (or whatever it's called) also takes 6 months, and then they do a Nightfall chapter (also 6 months?), does that mean we are at least 1 year away from GW2?
Karate Jesus
Shayne Hawke
The WiK stuff started when, April? It hasn't even wrapped up yet. If that's a signal for what's in store for us in the CiC, then that content may not even wrap up until next April, and I'm really hoping that GW2 will have been finished by then. At the very least, all of the GW2 professions will have been revealed, at the rate that they are moving.
If similar content is to be pushed out for Elona, and their goal is to have all of that done before GW2's release, the speed is going to have to pick up on the release of updates for CiC, and the upcoming holidays of Wintersday and the Canthan New Year probably won't help.
If similar content is to be pushed out for Elona, and their goal is to have all of that done before GW2's release, the speed is going to have to pick up on the release of updates for CiC, and the upcoming holidays of Wintersday and the Canthan New Year probably won't help.
Arduin
Wasn't it already hinted the new GW:B would indeed take place in Cantha? So nothing new about that in that post.
Karate Jesus
Darcy
The actual War in Kryta is over with the Battle for Lion's Arch. Salma is now Queen and they have broken the back of the White Mantle forces.
The new content planned for Cantha, and possibly Elona, won't have much impact on the remainder of the Tyrian (continent) content. John Stumme said we won't be getting the rest of Evennia's story for a while. Most likely they won't wrap up Gwen and Keiran's story until next year closer to release.
There is no reason to have completed all new content before the release of GW2. Guild Wars is not going to just disappear. It will continue to be played for various reasons and still be worthy of support and new content.
The new content planned for Cantha, and possibly Elona, won't have much impact on the remainder of the Tyrian (continent) content. John Stumme said we won't be getting the rest of Evennia's story for a while. Most likely they won't wrap up Gwen and Keiran's story until next year closer to release.
There is no reason to have completed all new content before the release of GW2. Guild Wars is not going to just disappear. It will continue to be played for various reasons and still be worthy of support and new content.
BuD
Yay! More customized weapons for the HoM!
Missing HB
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And most of all...is the time they are spending on GW:B development pushing back the release of GW2? WiK took, what, about 6 months? If "Crisis in Cantha" (or whatever it's called) also takes 6 months, and then they do a Nightfall chapter (also 6 months?), does that mean we are at least 1 year away from GW2?
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Nerel
I hope that the Canthan portions of Guild Wars Beyond are set entirely on Shing Jea island, and named something interesting, "Seitung Harbor in Turmoil" perhaps... yeah, go ahead and abbreviate that...
Sorry for the cynicism.
Sorry for the cynicism.
Painbringer
All Speculation - If there is a crisis in cantha they still have alot of map to play with. Although I can't see them touching it, but it would be cool to travel to another island (many to choose from) maybe one less dirty shanty town style.
jensyea
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And most of all...is the time they are spending on GW:B development pushing back the release of GW2? WiK took, what, about 6 months? If "Crisis in Cantha" (or whatever it's called) also takes 6 months, and then they do a Nightfall chapter (also 6 months?), does that mean we are at least 1 year away from GW2? |
Edit: Oh and by the way, the GW1 team is small, 10 people or so? The GW2 team must be at least 3 times as big.
myrealnameismatt
I hope they add a secret cow level - 100x level 50 cows that have 8 elite skills and drop 10x ectos.
Karate Jesus
jensyea
StormDragonZ
It'll be called Disorder In Cantha.
jazilla
or if they re-used the bonus mission pack map for Togo's Story. That was a was a sweet map.
Black Metal
I vote 'Shenanigans in Cantha'
and an Officer Barbrady NPC somewhere
and an Officer Barbrady NPC somewhere
BenjZee
Im pretty sure theres leftover bits and bobs through out the years like old cantha maps they never kept or potential Utopia stuff maybe? I'm very interested if they include Mhenlo and Togo (....dunno if its safe to use spoilers here).
MithranArkanere
Hm... there are only a few things I'd like to see around cantha:
- Luxon and Kurzick conquered by the Emperor.
- The remaining Shiro'ken defeated, if there was any left.
- The tunnel the dredge used to get to Cantha for the mainland.
- The origin of the huge dragon head we can see in Shenzun tunnels.
- Events after Urgoz is destroyed and Kannaxai defeated. What happened with the Warden and the Outcasts after that?
- The real source of the Oni.
- The reason why there are no undead in Cantha. Dragons, giants (and ogres), plants, elementals, ghosts and undead are everywhere. In Cantha, there are turtle and saltspray dragons, TONS of plants, yeti as giant/ogre and stone elementals, and ghost can be seen in Tahnnakai temple. Why no undead? Because of the ritualsits?
- Luxon and Kurzick conquered by the Emperor.
- The remaining Shiro'ken defeated, if there was any left.
- The tunnel the dredge used to get to Cantha for the mainland.
- The origin of the huge dragon head we can see in Shenzun tunnels.
- Events after Urgoz is destroyed and Kannaxai defeated. What happened with the Warden and the Outcasts after that?
- The real source of the Oni.
- The reason why there are no undead in Cantha. Dragons, giants (and ogres), plants, elementals, ghosts and undead are everywhere. In Cantha, there are turtle and saltspray dragons, TONS of plants, yeti as giant/ogre and stone elementals, and ghost can be seen in Tahnnakai temple. Why no undead? Because of the ritualsits?
AngelWJedi
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Hm... there are only a few things I'd like to see around cantha:
- Luxon and Kurzick conquered by the Emperor. - The remaining Shiro'ken defeated, if there was any left. - The tunnel the dredge used to get to Cantha for the mainland. - The origin of the huge dragon head we can see in Shenzun tunnels. - Events after Urgoz is destroyed and Kannaxai defeated. What happened with the Warden and the Outcasts after that? - The real source of the Oni. - The reason why there are no undead in Cantha. Dragons, giants (and ogres), plants, elementals, ghosts and undead. I Cantha, there are turtle and saltspray dragons, TONS of plants and stone elemental, and ghost can be seen in Tahnnakai temple. Why no undead? Because of the ritualsits? |
asb
My money is on a new explorable island north of Shing Jea, a plot focusing on the fate of the Naga, topped of with a hero of this race. Naga always were exclusively hostile to the player, like Tengu until Factions, Centaurs until NF and Golems until pre-WiK. I'm probably reading too much into it.
MithranArkanere
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My money is on a new explorable island north of Shing Jea, a plot focusing on the fate of the Naga, topped of with a hero of this race. Naga always were exclusively hostile to the player, like Tengu until Factions, Centaurs until NF and Golems until pre-WiK. I'm probably reading too much into it.
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The Stone Summit and the Asuran golems are completely different kinds of golem. The Asuran are not elementals, even if they are animated by elementals, while the stone summit ones are 'artificial elementals' instead simply animated golems.
So MOX is actually the first golem-type golem the players meet... if they didn't met before the Iron Forgeman.
Anyways, I don't really see a Naga as a hero.
They are bit too tribal, too primitive, like Yeti.
I'd rather have a Forgotten one, a Tengu or a Dredge.
Errant Venture
Crisis in cantha will probably just explain how Cantha gets to the totalitarian/seclusionist state it's in during GW2. Not that big a deal.
aspi
I don't think they will change much in the luxon or kurzick areas? If they endanger the kurzick or luxon speed clears like they changed the VQ in kryta those people will moan and bitch about it.
But since most people do not like the city part of cantha what else could they do. Make some new elite areas(would be sweet)
Introduce dungeons in cantha, where you can get lux or kurz faction? They will have to make people want to come back to gw1 inorder to get them interested in GW2. It wont help if GW1 turns into a ghost game before gw2 is out.
But since most people do not like the city part of cantha what else could they do. Make some new elite areas(would be sweet)
Introduce dungeons in cantha, where you can get lux or kurz faction? They will have to make people want to come back to gw1 inorder to get them interested in GW2. It wont help if GW1 turns into a ghost game before gw2 is out.
BrettM
Perhaps because the funeral practices of their culture lean heavily towards cremation, as suggested by all the rit skills involving urns, leaving no exploitable corpse. (There is a bit in Ghosts of Ascalon that mentions that cremation has become more common in Tyria because of Zhaitan. People don't want to leave their corpses around to be turned into minions of the dragon.)
Also, we haven't met or heard of any liches in Cantha. Tyria had Khilbron and Elona had Joko, but there aren't any stories about Canthan liches.
Edit: I don't see how one could connect the lack of undead to the rits, really. Unlike monks, rits don't seem to have any particular power against the undead. That's always surprised me a bit, just as it has always surprised me that monks don't have more power against spirits.
Also, we haven't met or heard of any liches in Cantha. Tyria had Khilbron and Elona had Joko, but there aren't any stories about Canthan liches.
Edit: I don't see how one could connect the lack of undead to the rits, really. Unlike monks, rits don't seem to have any particular power against the undead. That's always surprised me a bit, just as it has always surprised me that monks don't have more power against spirits.
asb
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The Asuran are not elementals, even if they are animated by elementals, while the stone summit ones are 'artificial elementals' instead simply animated golems.
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I don't see Tengu or Yeti's being more evolved as Naga. Given what we can see of their culture on Shing Jea and the Jade sea, the don't fall too far behind the Tengu. I think ANet will try to give us something we haven't had before, which is why I would set the chance of a Tengu hero lower than(we have Talon), say a Dredge hero, as we have already played alongside them. We know that the Dredge are a race we'll encounter in GW2, and the serpentine creatures in the trailer suggest that there'll also be a Naga-like race inhabiting the waters Tyria. Whatever it'll be, I think we'd agree on not wanting another boring human melee hero. :P
Iuris
I would just like to point out that the "unification" of Cantha is not conducted by emperor Kisu but a later offspring. So, I wouldn't expect the actual war to take place in GW:B.
I would sooner expect a depiction of growing tensions. The rebellious Tengu growing more active, which side the peaceful Tengu take, Canthans starting to amass military power etc.
I would sooner expect a depiction of growing tensions. The rebellious Tengu growing more active, which side the peaceful Tengu take, Canthans starting to amass military power etc.
McMullen
If I had to guess, I would say that Usoku (Kisu's successor) will appear as War Minister Wona's successor and will already be hatching plans for arming the Canthan army and driving out all non-humans, uniting the empire, etc.
Femmefatal
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I think it's more than just a joke:
Sure, it might not be called "Crisis in Cantha" but there appears to definitely be a next chapter to GW:B. But you're right. There's not much to discuss until we know more details. It's fun to speculate, however. For example, will a NF chapter follow? Will the rewards be Oppressor Weapons again? Will Thackeray surface in Cantha? And most of all...is the time they are spending on GW:B development pushing back the release of GW2? WiK took, what, about 6 months? If "Crisis in Cantha" (or whatever it's called) also takes 6 months, and then they do a Nightfall chapter (also 6 months?), does that mean we are at least 1 year away from GW2? |
BrettM
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the serpentine creatures in the trailer suggest that there'll also be a Naga-like race inhabiting the waters Tyria.
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The naga culture we see in Cantha may be very degraded compared to what they had before the Jade Wind, when they were still sane and friendly with humans. I would be interested to see signs of sanity returning (to both the naga and the wardens) now that Shiro has been defeated for good.
A naga hero sounds like a great idea, so I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for a naga rit.
a-kyle
Why is it secluded? I am very angry that we are stuck in "proph" whyen it comes to GW2 and cant go to Cantha or NF areas...
Errant Venture
Black Metal
a-kyle, we were stuck in "proph" when the original GW launched.
I'm sure further GW2 chapters will continue in new areas, likely Elona and Cantha, possibly more of Tyria. They've established so much lore in those other 2 continents that the path is paved.
edit: Ninja'd!!!!!
I'm sure further GW2 chapters will continue in new areas, likely Elona and Cantha, possibly more of Tyria. They've established so much lore in those other 2 continents that the path is paved.
edit: Ninja'd!!!!!
dts720666
A little bit more info today on the Arena Net Blog about "Crisis in Cantha" (or whatever they will call it).
So again, the WiK lasted about six months? So CiC might also???? Does this mean that GW2 is at least six months out? Then if they do a GWB for Elona, we're looking at a year.
I don't see how they can drag this out another year.
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The Canthan arc will run for a similar amount of time as the War in Kryta... |
I don't see how they can drag this out another year.
Highlander Of Alba
Thing to remember is
All this content is free so far so no use worrying how long it will be
Just sit back and take whatever they happen to give us during this transition to gw2
All this content is free so far so no use worrying how long it will be
Just sit back and take whatever they happen to give us during this transition to gw2
BrettM
Depends on how you count. We had a lot of teasers on the web in March, and the scavenger hunt with Thackeray. The really active stuff in-game went from April through early July, with the BLA update on July 8. I would say four months.
cosyfiep
I doubt they will do anything from now until after wintersday with all the 'things' that seem to go wrong around this time....so probably the next arc will start in January with maybe some precursor to it in between halloween and wintersday. I just can see them trying to do all of that at the same time.
dts720666
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Thing to remember is
All this content is free so far so no use worrying how long it will be Just sit back and take whatever they happen to give us during this transition to gw2 |
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