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Darcy
We know that. But the idea of being rewarded for all your time in GW1 is exciting. We've known since the beginning that it would all be cosmetic things and that we might or might not use them in GW2. It doesn't change the pleasure of receiving the gift. Or the pleasure at the thought and work that went into the HoM Calculator.
distilledwill
Erm - and? Free stuff is free stuff.
Plus, think 3 years down the line - people who still have this stuff will be rarer, thats when this stuff will become valuable/prestigious.
Plus, think 3 years down the line - people who still have this stuff will be rarer, thats when this stuff will become valuable/prestigious.
You can't see me
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Originally Posted by ThreatToSociety
I'm sure that even God Walking Among Mere Mortal will be dumped for much cooler GW2 titles.
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Don't know about you, but I'd rather not spend X Dollars/Time on a new game where the best achievement is to have mastered the old one.
HigherMinion
Want:
Spatha! why oh why is there no Spatha?!
Spatha! why oh why is there no Spatha?!
Warvic
uhm yeh that's the point of the HoM.
Even tho i can see myself using a FDS at end game
We can prolly TRANSMUTE HoM items freely so..
Even tho i can see myself using a FDS at end game
We can prolly TRANSMUTE HoM items freely so..
ThreatToSociety
I played GW1 for fun, not achievments.
M3G
edit : wrong thread
Fate Crusher
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Originally Posted by distilledwill
Erm - and? Free stuff is free stuff.
Plus, think 3 years down the line - people who still have this stuff will be rarer, thats when this stuff will become valuable/prestigious. |
The only value factor you're suggesting is that if only a handful of GW1 players actually make it into GW2.
They've also said these items are relatively low-end. Despite having the option to customise them to make them useful in high-end, they've already said there will be even more awesome items/armour/stuff available.
I'm happy with the rewards, I'm not going to ask for more out of it. They've mentioned so many times that they do not want to give GW1 players an advantage. So i'm happy to be given the opportunity to play with the old skins/cool mini pets. Oh and a title is a title. No matter how nice it sounds, you're relating it to an achievement. That achievement is worth showing off. Not the title itself.
Roen
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Don't know about you, but I'd rather not spend X Dollars/Time on a new game where the best achievement is to have mastered the old one.
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bsoltan
The items will hold the same purpose that the Pre-Order and GOTY items hold for GW.
They're cool skins, useful when first kitting out your characters and fun to run around with and a hint back to where you got them from.
They're not valuable, aren't held in high regard and don't really impress anyone.
As for the titles, I have no doubt that once people start getting achievements in GW2 they will be more impressive to show off than your HoM achievements from GW. However you'll always have those there, just as a reminder of the fun you had.
As with any and all of these threads about the HoM, if you're only playing for achievements for GW2 then that is a shame because the playing the game is about having fun.
They're cool skins, useful when first kitting out your characters and fun to run around with and a hint back to where you got them from.
They're not valuable, aren't held in high regard and don't really impress anyone.
As for the titles, I have no doubt that once people start getting achievements in GW2 they will be more impressive to show off than your HoM achievements from GW. However you'll always have those there, just as a reminder of the fun you had.
As with any and all of these threads about the HoM, if you're only playing for achievements for GW2 then that is a shame because the playing the game is about having fun.
Grotesque
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Originally Posted by ThreatToSociety
every player in GW1 will have the same rewards in GW2, none of these will be cool.
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Everyone can buy the longsword, but i still like it...
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Originally Posted by ThreatToSociety
They will be that item that everyone has and only a certain few will use them.
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Sankt Hallvard
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Originally Posted by Ewon
So, what are your thoughts on things like 50minis being the max to get rewards? I know I have 70+ minis so 20 are wasted. I do like that we don't need to put in everything possible, but my gw tyo do list went from "omfg, how can i get all this stuff" to "wow, I have everything".
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/wrists
Silverblad3
Generally it is good for casual players.
Yay -
Its generally okay
Meh -
Orange tabby cats, give me a tiger
Diamond Aegis? WTF? So many decent skins to choose from and we get this tripe?
Wasted 9 achievements on my main account. Really bad for hardcore players. Spent hundreds of hours running chests - pointless.
Spent milions of gold on lockpicks and time id'ing golds - pointless
Mapping titles - wasted time and frustation on this - pointless
Lucky and Unlucky - wasted time and money - pointless
Pick any other achievement - pointless
So for hardcore players they get the shaft. Meh......
Feel really sorry for the r15s who get nothing really compared to anyone else, they should have had something special for that.
Silver
Yay -
Its generally okay
Meh -
Orange tabby cats, give me a tiger
Diamond Aegis? WTF? So many decent skins to choose from and we get this tripe?
Wasted 9 achievements on my main account. Really bad for hardcore players. Spent hundreds of hours running chests - pointless.
Spent milions of gold on lockpicks and time id'ing golds - pointless
Mapping titles - wasted time and frustation on this - pointless
Lucky and Unlucky - wasted time and money - pointless
Pick any other achievement - pointless
So for hardcore players they get the shaft. Meh......
Feel really sorry for the r15s who get nothing really compared to anyone else, they should have had something special for that.
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dansamy
Thank you Easter Bunny!
My duplicate minis (21 toons over 2 accounts = a LOT of duplicates) and extra mat stacks just made me quite a bankroll!
My duplicate minis (21 toons over 2 accounts = a LOT of duplicates) and extra mat stacks just made me quite a bankroll!
Painbringer
All I have to say is I am glad I never sold any white purples and golds minis
I like rewards for playing I like the calculator ~ Although I think the Hard Core players got the short end of the stick. The more titles more points IMO (but who cares I hit my 30 with little effort) Now the titles... do I shoot for it or not that is the question.
I like rewards for playing I like the calculator ~ Although I think the Hard Core players got the short end of the stick. The more titles more points IMO (but who cares I hit my 30 with little effort) Now the titles... do I shoot for it or not that is the question.
Mordakai
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All I have to say is I am glad I never sold any white purples and golds minis
I like rewards for playing I like the calculator ~ Although I think the Hard Core players got the short end of the stick. The more titles more points IMO (but who cares I hit my 30 with little effort) Now the titles... do I shoot for it or not that is the question. |
Cool thing is, we have plenty of time to get any title we want... plenty of time.
dansamy
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Why not? What else are you going to do?
Cool thing is, we have plenty of time to get any title we want... plenty of time. |
Ninja Ninja
I originally liked the HoM because the initial system of adding titles encouraged you to try/experience different parts of the game you were skeptic about, these HoM guides feel like more of a job than casually getting gwamm over the years.
I always considered the HoM a way to help move dedicated players from gw1 to gw2, but after seeing the rewards die off at 30/50 I see no incentive/reason to move to gw2.
I always considered the HoM a way to help move dedicated players from gw1 to gw2, but after seeing the rewards die off at 30/50 I see no incentive/reason to move to gw2.
krazyxazn
After about a week of playing starting with a basically empty account. I'm up to 10/50 rewards now. Working on completing Nightfalls, accepting, but not doing all the side quests. Just doing only the Hero unlocks and main storyline.
You can't see me
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I always considered the HoM a way to help move dedicated players from gw1 to gw2, but after seeing the rewards die off at 30/50 I see no incentive/reason to move to gw2. |
No incentive to move on? Really? What about the fact that GW2 is an astoundingly stunning RPG in Development, or the fact that it's the sequal to a game I and others have been playing for five years plus now?
I don't want to go out too much on that line since I'm fairly sure that's not what you meant, but just in case.
Moving on, if you needed the HoM rewards/transfer as an incentive to move on to Guild Wars 2 at all, you're getting into it for the wrong reasons. I've endured countless hours of grind, trading, missions, quests and everything in between and I couldn't give less of a damn if it meant anything in Guild Wars 2 or not. It's all well and good if you want to come into Guild Wars 2 displaying a flashing banner that you demolished Guild Wars 1, good for you, but to turn your nose up at that is taking it too far. Anyone who has played Guild Wars for as long as five years has built up an infinite number of reasons to transfer to GW2. If you're the type to rage out of playing a groundbreaking RPG because you don't stand on a podium above everyone else from the get-go because you spent thousands of hours grinding on a different game, then I'd rather not play with you to begin with.
Smarty
Yay: the light armour (great coat and shoes *drool*), fiery dragon sword (huzzah!), wayward wand (one of my favourite wand skins), Legend of the Mists, GWAMM being recognised.
Meh: the whole PvP/PvE title thing (which ones fall in which category, and the distinction between the two in the first place).
Want: As A Boy I Spent Much Time In These Lands (fantastic idea FengShuiDove
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Meh: the whole PvP/PvE title thing (which ones fall in which category, and the distinction between the two in the first place).
Want: As A Boy I Spent Much Time In These Lands (fantastic idea FengShuiDove
Anon-e-mouse
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Question, do we HAVE to sear a toon to put Eternal Defender of Ascalon in the HoM? As I'd really rather keep my pre-sear toon RIGHT where it is thanks.
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/sigh
distilledwill
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So after 2 days and *13* replies to this thread by Anet CM's, this question is STILL unanswered 3 days after posting.
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Silverblad3
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Yeah just remove the 'massive' if you can't comprehend overstatements. Point is, you expect rewards specially for hardcore players from a company that is known to cater to the casual horde (and face it, why code rewards only a handful of people will see anyway).
The reward is the title. The HoM reward is a bonus. Why get all riled up about some reskin of a weapon? You had your golden age in GW1, just start anew. No need to carry over everything, might as well just play GW1 then. I know some hardcore players want to be able to say "Oh this thingy? Yeah, I got it by playing GW1 a lot!" to random new players asking about your Eternal Sword you got for getting LDoA but it's a lot of effort and bullcrap for basically nothing. You want cool stuff in GW2? Go get cool stuff. |
However, Anet had clearly said 'your achievements' will be recognised in GW2, go play and have fun with the HOM. However, what they should have said was 'some of your achievements maybe recognised in GW2'. More recently they have said it will please hardcore players too....
Recognition and rewards are two different things, we are not talking about the coolness of titles in GW1, but recognising achievements that anet said would take place for 'your achievements'.
In terms of coding for a handful of people, it would really not be any different then the trophies they did in GToB for GvG. Done for a handful of people that many could see.
I am not asking for cool stuff, I earned everything I got, if I intend to get GW2 or any other game I will do the same. The point is, if Anets says we will do X then do X, not Y. No need for people to waste time on something that was communicated to happen which only partly happens.
The other point is the relative points/contribution to the HoM GW2 Calculator, there is no difference from an achiement that takes 4 hours (sorrows furnace) compared to running 10,000 chests (100s of hours). However, they make a point of changing that for Obsidian armor (which also happens to be in my opinion the worst armor sets in the game). Consistency in making rewards fair would go a long way as well.
Anyway, do I care? Not really just putting my view across. Do I want them to do something about it? No I dont expect Anet to come through, their CR, Management and Updates has been shocking. Even the calculations used in HOM is unfair to players who did the 'time'. These players really want to enjoy their experience especially as we move towards the last stages of GW with the friends they have made in the community and even better if they all decide to go to GW2 together, rather then feeling bitter and not trusting what Anet says.
Sorry rant over, I am so going to love Costume Brawl!
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Dreikki
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I mean LDOA pointless title, but so many folks spend months doing this and it will mean absolutely nothing in terms of that title compared to getting one of the other achievements for the hom. Luckily I put that one off so I dont have to endure it.
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Basically all the time I spent is equivalent to Tyrian Protector or whatsoever.
Godefridus
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Basically all the time I spent is equivalent to Tyrian Protector or whatsoever.
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As a LDoA myself I know that it is quite a bit of work to achieve this title. But I also realise that the title in GW1 in itself is already more recognition by A-Net than they originally intended. So I don't expect to get yet another special treatment compared to other GW players in addition to that already special recognition. Besides... no weight is given to the time required for any of the statues. If they would discriminate between LDoA and Protector of Tyria, then they would also have to do so between Protector of Tyria and Protector of Cantha, and so on. And in the end people would still argue about the weights given to each title.
Also ANet stated in the early days of the HoM that the HoM would be our link to GW2. So why should they come with a particular statement on the title LDoA when their message has been clearly communicated from the early days of the HoM? The only thing that has changed is that they now informed us about the rewards that you get in GW2 in return for what you put in the HoM.
But of course everyone is free to ask for a special treatment, just don't expect to much from it.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Godefridus
If they would discriminate between LDoA and Protector of Tyria, then they would also have to do so between Protector of Tyria and Protector of Cantha, and so on. And in the end people would still argue about the weights given to each title.
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Or Skill Hunter.
The thing is, LDoA is not technically "hard" to get (ie, it's not difficult, anyone can do it, and it doesn't cost any money or consumables).
It just takes a LONG, LONG, time. Which is why I never finished it... but Kudos to those that did, and isn't that it's own reward?
People who accomplished any specific title for an imagined reward in GW2 were wasting their time. I personally wish I hadn't dedicated all those minis... I would have made a lot of money... on the other hand, I don't have to buy a lot of minis, soooooo....
Just be happy with what you have. None of it really matters anyway...
Ghost Dog
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
I originally liked the HoM because the initial system of adding titles encouraged you to try/experience different parts of the game you were skeptic about, these HoM guides feel like more of a job than casually getting gwamm over the years.
I always considered the HoM a way to help move dedicated players from gw1 to gw2, but after seeing the rewards die off at 30/50 I see no incentive/reason to move to gw2. |
Tons of games out there for you.
Ninja Ninja
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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog
Then you're not even playing for game play, just colored polygons.
Tons of games out there for you. |
Babaroga
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Originally Posted by Aba
Very odd.
Some of these items are just extremely odd to have as a reward... Orrian Baby Chicken that is awesome I look forward to stuff like that.... But Fellblade, icebreaker, Stygian reaver???? Noty, dont gimme stuff that take years to sell in GW one let alone as a reward for GW2..:P |
Anon-e-mouse
You'd be really really really really lucky to do LDoA in under 250 hours, which is about the time it would take to do Legendary Vanquisher (~110 zones @ 2 hours per zone).
And even GrandMaster Treasure Hunter could be done in under 350 hours... mind you, you'd be really sick of Boreal Station.
So Community Manager's do you have an answer yet? or is the clock going to keep counting?
And even GrandMaster Treasure Hunter could be done in under 350 hours... mind you, you'd be really sick of Boreal Station.
So Community Manager's do you have an answer yet? or is the clock going to keep counting?
The forth fly
LDOA is nothing more than a afk title,you think you deserve more for going afk for 10 hours ? no
Silverblad3
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LDOA is nothing more than a afk title,you think you deserve more for going afk for 10 hours ? no
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Regardless of whether you think it should be rewared or not, ANET has made the decision to reward it, and said achievements and 'hardcore' players would like it. *cough* Yes well.....
Again, saying it because it makes me feel better, all the hardcore titles are absolutely pointless and not recognised compared to easily attainable achievements like SF, UW, FOW. Nor as ANET said would the hardcore players be happy with it, it is not the case, maybe for many hardcore players, maybe for some and maybe for the 2-3 hardcore players they asked who actually do not play anymore and use GW1 as a chat system.
Over 9 titles are not required for the Honor Monument to max it, how does this recognise the achievements of the player for GW2? It does not.
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Dzjudz
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Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse
You'd be really really really really lucky to do LDoA in under 250 hours, which is about the time it would take to do Legendary Vanquisher (~110 zones @ 2 hours per zone).
And even GrandMaster Treasure Hunter could be done in under 350 hours... mind you, you'd be really sick of Boreal Station. So Community Manager's do you have an answer yet? or is the clock going to keep counting? |
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Silverblad3
Again, saying it because it makes me feel better, all the hardcore titles are absolutely pointless and not recognised compared to easily attainable achievements like SF, UW, FOW. Nor as ANET said would the hardcore players be happy with it, it is not the case, maybe for many hardcore players, maybe for some and maybe for the 2-3 hardcore players they asked who actually do not play anymore and use GW1 as a chat system.
Over 9 titles are not required for the Honor Monument to max it, how does this recognise the achievements of the player for GW2? It does not. Silver |
SF, UW and FOW are three titles. If you want more points than that, you HAVE to get a harder title.
We can argue all day about what Titles are harder... but unless you have millions of gold, LDOA is comparably an "easy" title if you are trying to get as many points as you can.
I'd much rather work on it, than say some of the PvP titles.
Silverblad3
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
SF, UW and FOW are three titles. If you want more points than that, you HAVE to get a harder title.
We can argue all day about what Titles are harder... but unless you have millions of gold, LDOA is comparably an "easy" title if you are trying to get as many points as you can. I'd much rather work on it, than say some of the PvP titles. |
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mage767
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Originally Posted by Silverblad3
So is Unlucky/Lucky titles. It was ANET who decided to put in 'hardcore' titles and rewards players for this in GW1 and be recognised in Gw2 (joke).
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Unlike lucky/unlucky, LDoA offers no other mechanisms to max other than death-leveling for a long long time in pre-searing. If people got the time to do it, well, good for them. I personally don't care since I have got other titles to substitute it. Remember, LDoA is NOT a mandatory title.
Showtime
I'm 90% done with hall and noticed Eternal Skillz... I have all 3 (4) skills titles. What is Eternal Skillz and how do I get it. Thx.
Edit: Oh it's the gamer title...
Edit: Oh it's the gamer title...
Random Scrubinator
I'm the most obsessive guild wars player I know in my offline life, and I only just hit 30/50. I'd assume that even at the 30/50 cutoff, less than 20% of the GW2 population is going to have all the items, which still gives some bragging rights to them
Belle Dwayna
Got a PKM in pre and i think it's legitimate for those like me who take many hours to do titles in pre and doesn't want to lose everythink on pre, to ask to anet a way to put LDoA in HoM with out leaving pre.