Okay, HoM is important to people again now that we can see rewards and HA is dead (or so I've been told). So why not add a new set of weapons that only drop from the HA reward chest?
That might be enough to bring a few people back into it for awhile.
HA drop only weapons for HoM
Winterclaw
Faer
HA isn't dead because of a lack of PvE rewards.
fowlero
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HA isn't dead because of a lack of PvE rewards.
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Lord Dagon
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HA isn't dead because of a lack of PvE rewards.
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But yea HoM can give good stuf(unded ghostly) but there is no point. HA is dead b/c 98% of the HA ppl are elitist snobs who only accept r8+ ppl
OblivionSexy
HA is dead because people in HA make it their mission to take HA as a lifestyle.
Maver1ck87
OMG - another thread making a suggestion that descends into a QQ thread about how people dont get accepted into teams cos they arnt ranked.
Back to the original post
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There are already lots of weapon sets, and I would prefer the development to focus their time on more pressing issues... new content, GvG update, Derv update, 7 hero parties etc.....
Back to the original post
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There are already lots of weapon sets, and I would prefer the development to focus their time on more pressing issues... new content, GvG update, Derv update, 7 hero parties etc.....
RedDog91
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HA is dead b/c 98% of the HA ppl are elitist snobs who only accept r8+...
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Sorry, you forgot to finish the sentence
Reverend Dr
If this happened we might start playing again...
to sell ganks in halls.
EDIT: VV they only made that promise over a year ago
to sell ganks in halls.
EDIT: VV they only made that promise over a year ago
Ninja Ninja
I think adding the new HA map would be a bigger priority than new weapons.
Winterclaw
So instead of trying to give people incentives to give it a try, the best thing to do for HA is to let it stay the same and have people complaining about how much it sucks or how elitist people are in there?
I see.
So, if HA doesn't have anything to entice people to try it out or go back to it, and its full of elitist snobs that run poopway all the time, why would anyone want to go there?
I was also going to suggest a reskin of FoW armor that you can only get from HAing, but I can see that idea will go nowhere as well.
I see.
So, if HA doesn't have anything to entice people to try it out or go back to it, and its full of elitist snobs that run poopway all the time, why would anyone want to go there?
I was also going to suggest a reskin of FoW armor that you can only get from HAing, but I can see that idea will go nowhere as well.
Duranin
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So instead of trying to give people incentives to give it a try, the best thing to do for HA is to let it stay the same and have people complaining about how much it sucks or how elitist people are in there?
I see. So, if HA doesn't have anything to entice people to try it out or go back to it, and its full of elitist snobs that run poopway all the time, why would anyone want to go there? I was also going to suggest a reskin of FoW armor that you can only get from HAing, but I can see that idea will go nowhere as well. |
HA isn't something that you can just walk in, pick up a pug and profit kind of thing. I'm sure most people who tried HA and quit have reasons for doing so, reasons that adding more rewards in the end chest will not solve.
Reverend Dr
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So instead of trying to give people incentives to give it a try,
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That said, the format of HA leaves a lot to be desired. The format needs to be addressed and they once said they were doing that (of course its been over a year since and we've heard nothing).
Fluffy Kittens
awesome idea, the best idea I've seen around these forums for a long time
Sirius Bsns
HA is dead because of elitism. Elitism causes lesser groups to form because of the whole rank-discrimination issue. If a player doesn't have a certain rank, that player's casted out of the group. That player leaves on a sour note, and it then becomes possible that the affected player permanently disregards HA. Now if you apply this to mass number of players, and factor in there the fact that GW1 is old and progressively boring [meaning players will leave out of said boredom over time], then those prospective losses add up!
On-Topic, though: I thing that the OP's suggestion to add more weapons to the HoH chest drop list will have no significant impact, and it will only benefit the current elitist groups [only]. So all the ranked players will continue playing, but the non-ranked and low-ranked players have no desire, or may try for a short while but quickly become aggravated by HA's hostile and elitist environment. That, and the time required in assembling teams also add fuel to the fire in HA.
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On-Topic, though: I thing that the OP's suggestion to add more weapons to the HoH chest drop list will have no significant impact, and it will only benefit the current elitist groups [only]. So all the ranked players will continue playing, but the non-ranked and low-ranked players have no desire, or may try for a short while but quickly become aggravated by HA's hostile and elitist environment. That, and the time required in assembling teams also add fuel to the fire in HA.
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Fluffy Kittens
Elitism is just an excuse for being a bad player. Step it up and get some skills, if you're good player you'll make a good team or a join a good team. If you're bad player you'll spend your time crying on forums about how nobody wants you. And please can you people get back to the topic thank you.
Adding HoM weapon drops to the toomz chest would at least double if not even triple the HA population therefore it's a great idea.
Adding HoM weapon drops to the toomz chest would at least double if not even triple the HA population therefore it's a great idea.
Essence Snow
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Elitism is just an excuse for being a bad player. Step it up and get some skills, if you're good player you'll make a good team or a join a good team. If you're bad player you'll spend your time crying on forums about how nobody wants you. And please can you people get back to the topic thank you.
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chuckles79
Oh yes, because if you are a REALLY good R1-R3 the other players will know all about it and break their R8 recruiting reqs just for you!
I think those of us who haven't been doing HA daily since May 2005 should just write off HA just like those who belong to small guilds and alliances should write off GvG.
If I feel the need to take out rage on other GW players I have RA, AB, and CM to work stuff out on. Oh and CA if I get REALLY desperate.
I think those of us who haven't been doing HA daily since May 2005 should just write off HA just like those who belong to small guilds and alliances should write off GvG.
If I feel the need to take out rage on other GW players I have RA, AB, and CM to work stuff out on. Oh and CA if I get REALLY desperate.
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Elitism is just an excuse for being a bad player. Step it up and get some skills, if you're good player you'll make a good team or a join a good team. If you're bad player you'll spend your time crying on forums about how nobody wants you. And please can you people get back to the topic thank you.
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if you are a REALLY good R1-R3 the other players will know all about it and break their R8 recruiting reqs just for you!
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A lot of ppl don't play pvp b/c of ppl just like you.
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Lanier
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People just like him (well not exactly like him since he's being "elitist" while only ever playing sin, but generally, the "high ranked" HAers) wouldn't be "elitist" if they know you have the experience (which you clearly don't). It's the nature of life. Survival of the fittest. If you aren't the fittest, don't expect to get anywhere. |
Of course, I doubt any of the HAers care. They'll just dismiss this as "talk from a bad player" or as "typical PvE whining". They always do.
lemming
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This is true. How can you expect to be fit if you don't get experience first. It is a closed loop, with those already in the loop being able to participate and gain more experience, and those outside the loop having no way to enter.
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Shadowhaze
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This is true. How can you expect to be fit if you don't get experience first. It is a closed loop, with those already in the loop being able to participate and gain more experience, and those outside the loop having no way to enter.
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Anyhow...OT - Adding more things to chest there would only benefit the current HA people as said by others. It may get people into it for a short time after they implemented it, but I don't see it lasting as many people would just get too frustrated I think.
Xenomortis
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Giving "incentives" for pvp is always a terrible idea. The incentive for PvP should be the PvP itself.
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ANet's failing at PvP hasn't been a lack of incentive, but a lack of a more accessible, enjoyable format. RA and TA was pretty much it, but were not supported too well and were balance nightmares. AB and the Competitive Missions are a joke and revolve too much around NPCs.
HA is a higher end (it requires a lot of organisation and weak players leave you at a large disadvantage in a competitive setting) PvP format that is very unrewarding for poorer or inexperienced players - this will not change by increasing the material reward from the end-chest.
MithranArkanere
You already have the Ghostly Hero in there to add to the HoM.
It doesn't matter what you add, those that do not do PvP would just by it from those that do.
And if they can't sell them, many people that actually would do it may not bother about it.
It doesn't matter what you add, those that do not do PvP would just by it from those that do.
And if they can't sell them, many people that actually would do it may not bother about it.
Mireles
Its funny how HA-ers want more insensitive for people to HA, but still exclude them from their groups. Excluding people because they are new are not going to make them want to play with you. Say what you will about rank discrimination, but I'm pretty confident when I say this is why most players don't even bother.
Constantly beating people and calling it a learning process is just not going to seem worth the effort when you can play PvE and have a much more pleasant experience...
The ever shrinking exclusive pvp community is what made HA populace what it is today...First with Rank Discrimination, second with the use of interrupt botters that caused some of your most common participants to be banned, and third the constant criticism dealt out by the remaining pvp-ers towards pve-ers... most people play games for fun, these properties do not fall into many players definition of fun.
When you exclude players there are less people to play with... simple mathematics. A weapon set or any chest reward will not solve these problems.... Theres nothing stopping pvp-ers from pve-ing... there are overwhelming barriers for pve-ers to pvp. Of course Anet is going to cater to the area of the game available to the most players, not reward elitism. Its just good business since.
Constantly beating people and calling it a learning process is just not going to seem worth the effort when you can play PvE and have a much more pleasant experience...
The ever shrinking exclusive pvp community is what made HA populace what it is today...First with Rank Discrimination, second with the use of interrupt botters that caused some of your most common participants to be banned, and third the constant criticism dealt out by the remaining pvp-ers towards pve-ers... most people play games for fun, these properties do not fall into many players definition of fun.
When you exclude players there are less people to play with... simple mathematics. A weapon set or any chest reward will not solve these problems.... Theres nothing stopping pvp-ers from pve-ing... there are overwhelming barriers for pve-ers to pvp. Of course Anet is going to cater to the area of the game available to the most players, not reward elitism. Its just good business since.
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The ever shrinking exclusive pvp community is what made HA populace what it is today...First with Rank Discrimination, second with the use of interrupt botters that caused some of your most common participants to be banned, and third the constant criticism dealt out by the remaining pvp-ers towards pve-ers... most people play games for fun, these properties do not fall into many players definition of fun.
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. Over and over again, iv seen people blowing this off as laziness or "bad player talk". I just wish that the HAers would acknowledge that this is true rather than saying that retarted "less QQ, moar Pew Pew" talk.
Reverend Dr
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Its funny how HA-ers want more insensitive for people to HA, but still exclude them from their groups.
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Current HA'ers don't want more incentives. A lot of them want format changes. There are also a lot of people that used to play HA that quit, but would come back with good format changes (while there would also be some that would quit if format changes, the former is far greater than the latter). They really want a format that is in itself fun to play.
I'm still not really sure who you are talking about. I mean I am an HA'er. While I'm not going to be letting your into one of my groups, it has nothing to do with rank, I only play with people I know. That is true for just about every HA group that is going to achieve any success other than farming Underworld. I don't know why people are making a big deal about the "rank discrimination" that is preventing them from getting into groups that are the cream of the crap.
And aside from that, the way your post is written, you come off as if you have a terrible attitude and entitlement issues. With that kind of attitude it wouldn't even matter if you could easily get into groups, the groups wouldn't want to play with you and would kick you out.
UnChosen
HA is dead not because of lack of PvE reward....
LF R9+++ ONLY when there's one district with a dozen people, getting matched with guild/high rank group after spending an hour forming a low ranked group (when ranks should be segregated from the very beginning), no decent group forming mechanisms, and of course, time....killed the area.
Adding in PvE reward would only result in the same groups of people screaming LF R9+++++ even louder than before because they can't risk not getting their item with those horrible little low rankers.
LF R9+++ ONLY when there's one district with a dozen people, getting matched with guild/high rank group after spending an hour forming a low ranked group (when ranks should be segregated from the very beginning), no decent group forming mechanisms, and of course, time....killed the area.
Adding in PvE reward would only result in the same groups of people screaming LF R9+++++ even louder than before because they can't risk not getting their item with those horrible little low rankers.
Pritst Of Death
have any of you ever been to doa or toa recantly i pve and pvp but most pve'ers have the same type of discramanation when they see a build or no high title or only looking for r7+ LB or things along those lines most HA'ers are snobs but the reason your look for higher rank most the time isn't 2 be a snob it's to have a higher chance of success now i went and held halls with r3+ teams last time with me leading and lots of other high ranked players do the same thing when they do byob but most pve'ers who are compligning don't even try 2 join a low ranked guild.
but back on topic idk if this idea will really help ha at all the current halls map update that anet talked about going back to a old set up might and maybe doing this with other things might revitalize ha
and for the 3erd note ha'ers want more people into ha not 2 take them but 2 have more compection most ha'ers who are still active is a group of 10-20 the really active ones and rarly have 2 pug but they always play the same teams over and over and that gets boring
but back on topic idk if this idea will really help ha at all the current halls map update that anet talked about going back to a old set up might and maybe doing this with other things might revitalize ha
and for the 3erd note ha'ers want more people into ha not 2 take them but 2 have more compection most ha'ers who are still active is a group of 10-20 the really active ones and rarly have 2 pug but they always play the same teams over and over and that gets boring
My New Name
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Elitism is just an excuse for being a bad player. Step it up and get some skills, if you're good player you'll make a good team or a join a good team. If you're bad player you'll spend your time crying on forums about how nobody wants you. And please can you people get back to the topic thank you.
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Pritst Of Death
there aren't only r8+ teams there are quite a few r3+ guild who form up who take unranked people you just have 2 look for them for more than 20 secs get fed up and leave