What Kind of Builds Will you create with 7 Heroes?
HigherMinion
AndrewSX
About the ER tanking discussion....
Look closely...who was tanking Dhuum?
(Pick stolen and modified from the speed clear thread)
Look closely...who was tanking Dhuum?
(Pick stolen and modified from the speed clear thread)
Miteshu
Would Discordway, Mesway and HB/UA work?
Dzjudz
Well it seems we can try out all our new builds tomorrow 
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Zanagi Kazuhiko
Planning to run sabway, ER, Panic, spiritway
Anaraky
I'm rather flabbergasted at the amount of people that are going to go heavy on Discord, especially considering how little real synergy it has compared to what can be done with seven heroes.
Personally I will probably go something in the lines of one or two Smite/Protter monks for boosting my Warriors damage as well as hex/condition removal and decent overall damage output, at least one necromancer (curser and/or MB most likely), some kind of AoE healing (Dwaynas derv perhaps, or a UB or HB monk with Dwayna's Sorrow if I go with a MB), one or two ritualists (either spirit spammer and/or restoration, depends on the area), a mesmer of some kind (Panic or Keystone most likely) and perhaps a second frontliner assuming the update makes melee heroes usable.
Personally I will probably go something in the lines of one or two Smite/Protter monks for boosting my Warriors damage as well as hex/condition removal and decent overall damage output, at least one necromancer (curser and/or MB most likely), some kind of AoE healing (Dwaynas derv perhaps, or a UB or HB monk with Dwayna's Sorrow if I go with a MB), one or two ritualists (either spirit spammer and/or restoration, depends on the area), a mesmer of some kind (Panic or Keystone most likely) and perhaps a second frontliner assuming the update makes melee heroes usable.
Dzjudz
Well now with Mercenary heroes it might be possible to create a 7 necro hero team?
HigherMinion
distilledwill
Btw - are we going to start a new thread tonight? Or change the title of this thread to something present tense?
Also - with mercenary heroes: 6 paragons, 1 dervish orders spammer, 1 monk.
Also - with mercenary heroes: 6 paragons, 1 dervish orders spammer, 1 monk.
Squishy ftw
Would like to fit in a 2nd res somewhere though ..
Xenomortis
A res can go in place of any of the following:
They're on Fire
Fragility
Epidemic
Wandering Eye
SoLS (on both Necs)
Icy Veins
Weaken Armour
Holy Veil
Signet of Rejuvenation
Spotless Mind
Although a res is ill-advised on the Monk; I simply used this as an opportunity to pick out skills I think are bad choices.
They're on Fire
Fragility
Epidemic
Wandering Eye
SoLS (on both Necs)
Icy Veins
Weaken Armour
Holy Veil
Signet of Rejuvenation
Spotless Mind
Although a res is ill-advised on the Monk; I simply used this as an opportunity to pick out skills I think are bad choices.
Belzebu
I think I'll go with:
1 Me: R/Rit Barrage(may change to R/P BM build later)
2 Olias: N/Mo mm
3 Livia: N/Rit SS
4 Xandra: Rit/? SoS resto
5 Razah: Rit/? SoGM
6 Gwen: Me/? Panic
7 Tahlkora: Mo/Me HB healer
8 Kahmu: D/? kinda tank/condition spreader <- trying yo figure out a good Dervish build, any tips?
Or I may go as:
4x R/P BM build
2x P/R BM build
1x N/Mo mm
1x Rit/R SoS resto (with a pet to increase the lulz)
7 pets + spirits + minions = zerg rush
1 Me: R/Rit Barrage(may change to R/P BM build later)
2 Olias: N/Mo mm
3 Livia: N/Rit SS
4 Xandra: Rit/? SoS resto
5 Razah: Rit/? SoGM
6 Gwen: Me/? Panic
7 Tahlkora: Mo/Me HB healer
8 Kahmu: D/? kinda tank/condition spreader <- trying yo figure out a good Dervish build, any tips?
Or I may go as:
4x R/P BM build
2x P/R BM build
1x N/Mo mm
1x Rit/R SoS resto (with a pet to increase the lulz)
7 pets + spirits + minions = zerg rush
ensoriki
I rolled my head on the keyboard today.
Was fun shit, I did it because I could because my heroes did everything.
3 Avatar of Dwayna dervishes, and an ER prot and it was LoD on steroids.
Was fun shit, I did it because I could because my heroes did everything.
3 Avatar of Dwayna dervishes, and an ER prot and it was LoD on steroids.
Rictuar
Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
I rolled my head on the keyboard today.
Was fun shit, I did it because I could because my heroes did everything.
3 Avatar of Dwayna dervishes, and an ER prot and it was LoD on steroids. I'm interested in your Dwayna builds. I'm having a hell of a time sticking to any that I've made.
Was fun shit, I did it because I could because my heroes did everything.
3 Avatar of Dwayna dervishes, and an ER prot and it was LoD on steroids. I'm interested in your Dwayna builds. I'm having a hell of a time sticking to any that I've made.
distilledwill
I was thinking of a dwayna team too. With a N/Rt to deal with conditions/spam orders.
3 Dwayna's
1 Order Necro
1 ER prot/infuser
2 Paragons - whatever you want.
3 Dwayna's
1 Order Necro
1 ER prot/infuser
2 Paragons - whatever you want.
ensoriki
Don't mix the Dwayna's with Discord.
That gave me terrible results
That gave me terrible results
Jerec The Raven
I think I'll take two mes. One VoR and one ineptitude, this really rolls through squads.
distilledwill
Having got out there and tested it - this is what I was running. The builds need a bit of tweaking - but it powered through the HM WiK mobs.
ensoriki
Aura of the lich is just a boss skill with dervishes, your dervishes can basically perform blood of the master for all of the minions with no health cost.
Before the update fitting it all in with only 3 hero slots wasn't doable but now.. pfft.
Level 21 minions are tank, with the dervishes who are also on the frontline dropping aoe heals (mostly whirling charge) It's all good.
Couldn't get it to flow with Discord though.
Before the update fitting it all in with only 3 hero slots wasn't doable but now.. pfft.
Level 21 minions are tank, with the dervishes who are also on the frontline dropping aoe heals (mostly whirling charge) It's all good.
Couldn't get it to flow with Discord though.
Anaraky
I just going to pop in and confirm what everyone knows, stacking Necros and Rits is pretty win. Went with SoS Rit/SoGM Rit/Curser+Blood Nec/MB Nec/Healing Burst Monk/2xSmiters+Prots Monks on my Warrior and rolled everything.
Pros
A lot of "passive" AoE healing due to Healing Burst, Dwayna's Sorrow, Blood Bond and three instances of Heaven's Delight. The sustainability of the setup is phenomenal.
Tons of absorption due to having up to twenty-ish spirits and minions at one time.
Lots of sustained damage, both AoE and single target.
Lots of debuffs and pretty good condition/hex removal.
Cons
Somewhat weak versus spikes, especially AoE spikes due to rather subpar prots and few spike heals.
Some ramp-up time, damage wise.
Not good at spiking, unless you can get a decent ball and MoP the mobs.
Considering dropping a Smiter+Prot monk for an ER ele and switching the Healing Burst monk for a Dwayna's derv. Thoughts?
Pros
A lot of "passive" AoE healing due to Healing Burst, Dwayna's Sorrow, Blood Bond and three instances of Heaven's Delight. The sustainability of the setup is phenomenal.
Tons of absorption due to having up to twenty-ish spirits and minions at one time.
Lots of sustained damage, both AoE and single target.
Lots of debuffs and pretty good condition/hex removal.
Cons
Somewhat weak versus spikes, especially AoE spikes due to rather subpar prots and few spike heals.
Some ramp-up time, damage wise.
Not good at spiking, unless you can get a decent ball and MoP the mobs.
Considering dropping a Smiter+Prot monk for an ER ele and switching the Healing Burst monk for a Dwayna's derv. Thoughts?
bhavv
Triple Discord, Panic, Ineptitude, SoS, Soul twisting, and whatever I want on my elly (currently running Ether Renewal, but thats overkill with all the necro and rit healing + prots):
Yea just did the easiest ever vanq, in an area that I was finding the most difficult before this update (Garden of Sebhorin with loads of roaring ethers).
I only needed to prot against the ethers, everything else I didnt need to do anything but run around and it all died fast and easy.
I like difficult and challenging games, but after 5 years of GW you get fed up and al I want to do is finish filling my HoM.
Yea just did the easiest ever vanq, in an area that I was finding the most difficult before this update (Garden of Sebhorin with loads of roaring ethers).
I only needed to prot against the ethers, everything else I didnt need to do anything but run around and it all died fast and easy.
I like difficult and challenging games, but after 5 years of GW you get fed up and al I want to do is finish filling my HoM.
mrmango
I didn't VQ yet because my main is doing survivor boxing now and I'm scared.. but I will roll with myself as Inep or cop caller, SoS, Sogm, 3x discord, Panic, and an SH. SH probably will be a stupid idea, in which case I'll switch it for a physical or a second mesmer.
distilledwill
I think its funny that the first of the Zaishen Vanquishes after the 7 hero update is a 6 man area.
apoggy
Updated build
Chaining Club of a thousand bears using moebius to recharge is epic (against non-humans)
Chaining Club of a thousand bears using moebius to recharge is epic (against non-humans)
IronSheik
As dervish primary
1 - Rt Channeler with 14 splinter and 10 Strength+Honor
2 - Barbs/MoP Curse
3 - MM - Empathetic Removal
4 - Spirit crapper+Heals
5 - Teaser
6 - Prot
7 - Fire
8 - Fire
1 - Rt Channeler with 14 splinter and 10 Strength+Honor
2 - Barbs/MoP Curse
3 - MM - Empathetic Removal
4 - Spirit crapper+Heals
5 - Teaser
6 - Prot
7 - Fire
8 - Fire
distilledwill
^ thats one too many heroes.
Life Bringing
http://www.gwpvx.com/User:Life_Guardian/7hero
Halp. Need another para bar. I'm running dagspam with sy.
Halp. Need another para bar. I'm running dagspam with sy.
Xenomortis
Life Bringing
Xenomortis
Second Barrage guy or Punishing Shot? I'm not convinced the Para stuff is worth an actual hero since most of it can go in on a /P secondary. Then again, I'm not sure a Ranger is any better.
If the ranger spirits were actually usable I'd say take Winnowing and maybe even Favourable Winds, but the cast times and recharges suck so much. I suppose a ranger with a pet might work out.
If the ranger spirits were actually usable I'd say take Winnowing and maybe even Favourable Winds, but the cast times and recharges suck so much. I suppose a ranger with a pet might work out.
Life Bringing
Well, I'm currently using a cruel spear motigon with finale, but the bar is just really ugly. I'm not really sure if it's an effective bar or not. Guess I'll try another barrage paragon for lulzy envy spam. I'm hesitant to use a pet because of the awful ai.
Jeydra
Steal some bars from Khomet?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...tml?t=10462614
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...tml?t=10462614
Kaida the Heartless
Ether Renewal, Soul Twisting, Signet of Spirits, Panic, Psychic Instability, Ineptitude, Keystone Signet, Spiteful Spirit, Aura of the Lich, Jagged Bones, Pain of Disenchantment, Ray of Judgement, Way of the Assassin, Assassin's Promise, Avatar of Dwayna, and Pious Renewal.
On a lesser note:
Earthshaker, Dragon Slash, 100 Blades, Barrage, Enraged Lunge, Unyielding Aura, Healing Burst, Searing Flames, Invoke Lightning, Stunning Strike, Song of Purification, Avatar of Balthazar, Vow of Strength, Reaper's Sweep, and Onslaught.
Wakko's America comes to mind doing this... lol
On a lesser note:
Earthshaker, Dragon Slash, 100 Blades, Barrage, Enraged Lunge, Unyielding Aura, Healing Burst, Searing Flames, Invoke Lightning, Stunning Strike, Song of Purification, Avatar of Balthazar, Vow of Strength, Reaper's Sweep, and Onslaught.
Wakko's America comes to mind doing this... lol
Xenomortis
The scattering from Chaos Storm is minimal, especially if it's your only DoT skill.
You have more to worry about from Splinter.
You have more to worry about from Splinter.
Life Bringing
Thanks for the input guys, but I've pretty much stopped caring what I run in general pve. I can grab 7 random caster heroes and faceroll through most of the game. What I'm working on now are builds to get me through the four areas of DoA in HM without cons(individual builds for each area) and eventually one to get me through a FR. I've started with foundry as I expect it to be the most difficult and have done well in preliminary testing. Builds are here:http://www.gwpvx.com/User:Life_Guardian/7hero_DoA. The build I'm running is a A/W dagspam with sy, ascan, and iau. It's extremely forgiving of mistakes atm and im hoping to refine it a bit to have increased offense. Being a melee char is very restrictive unfortunately. Any input or personal experiences would be appreciated.
HigherMinion
Mass AoE block/blind is always nice when those Earth Tormentors start slashing your frontline (ie you) to pieces. Wouldn't have more than one mesmer in any team; Panic works well by itself.