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After over 5 years of playing, (and selling some rare minis), I finally have enough ectos and gold to buy FoW armor (but it will pretty much wipe me out).
Before I make such a huge investment, I want to ask people who are 50/50 (or close), and ask their opinion of what is the hardest points to achieve.
Or, in other words, how do I get the most bang for my buck?
http://hom.guildwars2.com/#page=deta...IMYAAAAAAAl%5D
FoW Armor or Zaishen Supporter?
Mordakai
Warvic
Zaishen statue = 3 pts.
Obby armor = 1 pt.
So i would go for the Zaishen.
I'm saving money for obby now myself, but i alrdy have Zaishen (and gladiator) so...
Obby armor = 1 pt.
So i would go for the Zaishen.
I'm saving money for obby now myself, but i alrdy have Zaishen (and gladiator) so...
Shayne Hawke
r3 Zaishen would likely take somewhere between 1.5 and 1 times the cost of getting Obsidian armor, but would grant you three times as many points.
IlikeGW
I think the zaishen route is a pretty easy way to go if you farm holidays for cash. You should be cool with all your cash being disposable before you do it though, because you might get nothing out of the zchest.
Turk The Legendary
Go for the zrank... obby shards are at their highest prices so obsidian will be even more than usual. Plus the zrank gives more HoM points
Mordakai
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Zaishen statue = 3 pts.
Obby armor = 1 pt. So i would go for the Zaishen. I'm saving money for obby now myself, but i alrdy have Zaishen (and gladiator) so... |
Also, about how much Faction do you earn in an hour (for zkeys?)
I'm leaning to zkeys myself, but if I do that, I know I'll never get Obsidian armor (it's taken me this long to get the money, it's not going to happen again before GW2).
IlikeGW
There are double glad point weekends which help. The difficult thing is the random element you get quitters, botters, trolls, noobs, etc... If you have nerves of steel you could do it.
Warvic
It takes very long to get glad r3. It's hard for me to tell, because i mainly did pve while doing RA when i was in the mood. And it didn't help that i never played a monk ^^
With the RA zquest, u can get alot of Zkeys tho
But i think it takes less time to make alot of money and get Zaishen (and obby after that).
With the RA zquest, u can get alot of Zkeys tho
But i think it takes less time to make alot of money and get Zaishen (and obby after that).
Mordakai
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r3 Zaishen would likely take somewhere between 1.5 and 1 times the cost of getting Obsidian armor, but would grant you three times as many points.
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Obsidian Armor is about 1,215,000 gold (105 of ectos/shards; assuming Ectos at 7k and shards at 4k, which I'm not sure about current prices + 60k)
Of course, I would have to trade ectos for zkeys, and I have no idea how easy that is... it took me weeks of spamming to sell my minis for enough ectos.
Ceifador
Go for Zrank, opening the Zaishen Chest 200 times will give you items that can be sold so you can regain some of the money you will spend.
FoxBat
If you ever start playing RA, the Zaishen quests will get you to either Zrank or Obby armor faster than you'll actually get gladiator. I don't farm PvE, the vast majority of my 49-pt HoM was funded primarily from zquests, and that's just from crap like RA, Codex, commander farming, and semi-weekly GvG or HA, nothing high level.
Warvic
Shards r 3k/ea.
Zaishen
- 1337 emote
- gain some money back
- 3 pts!!
- 1 mill (cheaper)
Obsidian armor
- 1337 armor
- 1 pt
- ~1.2 mill (expensive)
That list screams: "GET ZAISHEN!"
Zaishen
- 1337 emote
- gain some money back
- 3 pts!!
- 1 mill (cheaper)
Obsidian armor
- 1337 armor
- 1 pt
- ~1.2 mill (expensive)
That list screams: "GET ZAISHEN!"
Mordakai
On a side note, I really wish Gamer track counted for PvP... that seems a lot easier (even though you have limited time to earn it).
King Size
you can get zaichen while working for kurzick/luxon title in jq and take the armor ( that's what i did ,personal opinion tho 
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Clobimon
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If this is the wrong section, please move.
After over 5 years of playing, (and selling some rare minis), I finally have enough ectos and gold to buy FoW armor (but it will pretty much wipe me out). Before I make such a huge investment, I want to ask people who are 50/50 (or close), and ask their opinion of what is the hardest points to achieve. Or, in other words, how do I get the most bang for my buck? http://hom.guildwars2.com/#page=main...AAAWIMYAAAAAAA |
This is personal opinion of course and it isn't a direct answer to the question of FoW or Zaishen:
I think you had 33 points or so. I noticed you were missing skill hunter titles in addition to several of the other "work for" pve titles and weapons. To tell you the truth, I would not do anything in regards to spending all of your gold for those points at this time, if your goal is to get to 50. You say you have the ectos (not sure about the shards). I'd say to sit on them until you're closer to 50. I don't know where you're at for skill hunter, but with 290 that takes quite a bit of cash in itself for caps. The weapons are going to cost a bunch unless you have the materials already. Others are going to take some gold as well.
You have several titles remaining that will need completing. I'll assume that you've made good progress in them but finishing can still take time. So, as just opinion like I said, I'd do everything else first.
Are you currently at 0 points for Zaishen? Maybe work on that slowly as you do other things rather than trying to hit 1,000 points in one go.
FengShuiDove
You'll recover at least *some* of what you put into the Z-Chest. Some meaning between 100g per open (20k) and maybe half of what you put in if you're very lucky. For a long while, I broke even on the Z-Chest, but I had some incredible luck a few days too.
Obby is good stuff, and I'd go for it still. Just play casually and save everything.
Obby is good stuff, and I'd go for it still. Just play casually and save everything.
Maver1ck87
Personnaly, I would get the obsidian armour.... the reason for this being this....
Zaishen emote is NOT a 1337 emote like someone suggested, z3 is super common now, not much to run around wearing in towns, and its a measly bronze spear.... emote only becomes cool at z7 (trust me) z4 was HUGELY disappointing.
Yes its 3 points, but getting 30/50 should not be too hard, and actually all the titles beyond 30/50 are far less cool than GWAMM which gets carried across, so tbh, id spend time getting GWAMM rather than 50/50 (although u will certainly get clsoer to 50/50 going for GWAMM)
Obsidian Armour is like a present for your toon, it might sound stupid and whatever but these characters are YOURS, they are YOUR toons. If you think they would look good in obsidian armour go for it, dye it your own colour, pimp it out with specs or dread mask or something and that will be with you when out doing missions with friends and stuff.... that is 100000000000x > than a measly bronze spear....
If you are on 27/50 and want 3 to get to 30.... I WOULD STILL get obsidian. There are many more easy points to get at that level to push you to the magical 30.
if you get Z title, you will regret it.
The obsidi armour might look worse in terms of ur HoM.... but its not JUST for your HoM, its for when out with guildies and stuff.
Meh, 2 cents
gl and Grz on earning 1 mil always satisfying.... i just blew 800k in 1 morning.... *cry* feeling very poor now
Zaishen emote is NOT a 1337 emote like someone suggested, z3 is super common now, not much to run around wearing in towns, and its a measly bronze spear.... emote only becomes cool at z7 (trust me) z4 was HUGELY disappointing.
Yes its 3 points, but getting 30/50 should not be too hard, and actually all the titles beyond 30/50 are far less cool than GWAMM which gets carried across, so tbh, id spend time getting GWAMM rather than 50/50 (although u will certainly get clsoer to 50/50 going for GWAMM)
Obsidian Armour is like a present for your toon, it might sound stupid and whatever but these characters are YOURS, they are YOUR toons. If you think they would look good in obsidian armour go for it, dye it your own colour, pimp it out with specs or dread mask or something and that will be with you when out doing missions with friends and stuff.... that is 100000000000x > than a measly bronze spear....
If you are on 27/50 and want 3 to get to 30.... I WOULD STILL get obsidian. There are many more easy points to get at that level to push you to the magical 30.
if you get Z title, you will regret it.
The obsidi armour might look worse in terms of ur HoM.... but its not JUST for your HoM, its for when out with guildies and stuff.
Meh, 2 cents
gl and Grz on earning 1 mil
always satisfying.... i just blew 800k in 1 morning.... *cry* feeling very poor now
Shadowspawn X
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About how long does it take to get Glad?
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you can get zaichen while working for kurzick/luxon title in jq and take the armor ( that's what i did ,personal opinion tho
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Get the obby while you have the cash, you need it anyway. Then grind out the Zkeys using one of the above methods.
IlikeGW
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On a side note, I really wish Gamer track counted for PvP... that seems a lot easier (even though you have limited time to earn it).
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IlikeGW
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Obsidian Armour is like a present for your toon, it might sound stupid and whatever but these characters are YOURS, they are YOUR toons. If you think they would look good in obsidian armour go for it, dye it your own colour, pimp it out with specs or dread mask or something and that will be with you when out doing missions with friends and stuff.... that is 100000000000x > than a measly bronze spear....
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Maver1ck87
i never said it was bling, or the best looking armour, that is and always will be personal preference. I never got it till HoM cos didnt like it. Its now sitting in storage un runed and not worn - but thats me.
HOWEVER, some people love it, not for the status but for the fact they like how it looks, and the pride of having ur toon kitted in the most expensive gws armour.
AND it is way better than that bronze spear lol, emoting people with that is just painful
HOWEVER, some people love it, not for the status but for the fact they like how it looks, and the pride of having ur toon kitted in the most expensive gws armour.
AND it is way better than that bronze spear lol, emoting people with that is just painful
BrettM
What's the status of your Honor and Resilience monuments? Completing FoW while getting your armor will get you a statue for your Honor monument, which may be worth 1-3 points if it brings you to 5, 10, 15, etc. statues. The armor could be worth more than one point if it brings your Resilience monument up to 3, 5, or 7 sets. So you may very well get as many points from an FoW armor set as from the Zaishen statue.
But, I agree with Clobimon that your best strategy might be to wait and work on other accomplishments for a while before deciding. Get the low-hanging fruit first and see where you stand after that.
But, I agree with Clobimon that your best strategy might be to wait and work on other accomplishments for a while before deciding. Get the low-hanging fruit first and see where you stand after that.
drkn
As a 50/50 GWAMM:
If you have money on you already, go with the armor. It's a one-time spending, the most expensive thing in the game with standarised price in ectos (so counting minipets out).
On the other hand, you can always buy 1-2 ZKeys, you can farm Balth faction via JQ/RA/AB/ZE and get your keys. Moreso, 200 keys is 1000k, or 1kk, while obsidian armor is 1,2-1,5kk with the current prices, making it more expensive, thus more likely better to buy all pieces at once if you have the money.
Short: ZRank can be achieved over time, Obsidian is a one-time spending, thus go with the armor if you're heading for 50/50 rather than 45/50 (but then you need neither ZRank nor Obsi).
If you have money on you already, go with the armor. It's a one-time spending, the most expensive thing in the game with standarised price in ectos (so counting minipets out).
On the other hand, you can always buy 1-2 ZKeys, you can farm Balth faction via JQ/RA/AB/ZE and get your keys. Moreso, 200 keys is 1000k, or 1kk, while obsidian armor is 1,2-1,5kk with the current prices, making it more expensive, thus more likely better to buy all pieces at once if you have the money.
Short: ZRank can be achieved over time, Obsidian is a one-time spending, thus go with the armor if you're heading for 50/50 rather than 45/50 (but then you need neither ZRank nor Obsi).
Lukyboy
First of: What is your own goal? 30/50? 50/50? or somewhere in between?
If your goal is 30/50, you don't need zaishen or obby armor to get it. You might wanna consider spending your money on something like weapons or mini's
If your goal is 50/50, it doesn't really matter which one you pick, because you're going to need the other one anyway. The easiest thing to do then would be to farm/save money again (unless you rather go for r3 glad then farming the money)
If your goal is 'somewhere in between', It's probably best to take zaishen, because it gives the most points out of the two.
Hope I helped
PS. The link in the OP doesn't work like you intended it
If your goal is 30/50, you don't need zaishen or obby armor to get it. You might wanna consider spending your money on something like weapons or mini's
If your goal is 50/50, it doesn't really matter which one you pick, because you're going to need the other one anyway. The easiest thing to do then would be to farm/save money again (unless you rather go for r3 glad then farming the money)
If your goal is 'somewhere in between', It's probably best to take zaishen, because it gives the most points out of the two.
Hope I helped
PS. The link in the OP doesn't work like you intended it
Mordakai
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You have several titles remaining that will need completing. I'll assume that you've made good progress in them but finishing can still take time. So, as just opinion like I said, I'd do everything else first. Are you currently at 0 points for Zaishen? Maybe work on that slowly as you do other things rather than trying to hit 1,000 points in one go. |
I'm actually at around 115 for Zaishen right now I think... (I've gotten a few zkeys over time).
I like the idea of waiting, it's not like Ectos are going to suddenly drop in value, and if they do... well, it will be easier to get FoW armor anyway.
I'll just continue to grind titles, maybe work on RA and see how it goes.
I can always finish Vanquishing and make some more money....
EDIT: Fixed link: http://hom.guildwars2.com/#page=deta...IMYAAAAAAAl%5D
I'm at 34, I don't really have a set goal but just to get as much as I can!
That's the dilemma: if I want 50/50, Obsidian is the obvious choice (it's required). If I will settle for 45, then the zrank will get me 3 points for cheaper. (But I will never be able to get Obsidian if I spend that money now).
drkn
After a look at your HoM, i'd suggest you fill your minipets, torm weapon and vabbian armor first, getting hero armors, getting Balth faction and grinding titles in the meanwhile. Once PvP title + Obsi + maybe something more are the last things you need, then you can decide.
Milennin
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if you get Z title, you will regret it.
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Ontopic: I'd definetely go for the Zaishen title. It gains you an emote (might not care about that though), it's a nice gamble, might receive good stuff (I never did =P) to make some of the money back you put into it. Plus the fact that it gives 3 points, while Obsidian armour only gives you 1 point. I know which one I'd choose.
Mordakai
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After a look at your HoM, i'd suggest you fill your minipets, torm weapon and vabbian armor first, getting hero armors, getting Balth faction and grinding titles in the meanwhile. Once PvP title + Obsi + maybe something more are the last things you need, then you can decide.
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Hero armor is a pain... for the life of me I cannot complete Glint's challenge. I'm going to see if some guildies can help...
But good advice... I think I'll wait and save Obsidian and PvP for last.
Milennin
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Hero armor is a pain... for the life of me I cannot complete Glint's challenge. I'm going to see if some guildies can help...
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JONO51
I have both, but for me obsidian has much more value attached to it, because after playing to it for 2/3 years when I bought it, it was a reward I could see all the time, and I liked the set of course. I also have ztitle 3 that was 50/50 bought/played to. Never use it because its absolutely terrible and everyone has a spear nowadays lol and I dont really think much of it, and already have pvp titles. If you are going to pick one, i'd say pick one that would have a meaning attached to it for you. Dont pick it based on whats leet or w/e because nobody gives a shit and tormented/chaos gloves/obsi/voltaic is all a dime a dozen nowadays.
If I was you though, I'd do some RA, particularly on zq days. Either you'll break down and buy ztitle after 20 or so keys earnt, or somewhere around g2 you'll probably have made enough keys and can get both
If I was you though, I'd do some RA, particularly on zq days. Either you'll break down and buy ztitle after 20 or so keys earnt, or somewhere around g2 you'll probably have made enough keys and can get both
helloeveryone
which one is harder do it first, so u will find the rest easier.
Arkantos
Don't forget that by going for r3 zaishen, you do have a chance of getting a good drop. With luck, you'd be able to get r3 zaishen and some (if not all) of the FoW armor.
Carboplatin
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GWAMM which gets carried across, so tbh, id spend time getting GWAMM rather than 50/50 (although u will certainly get clsoer to 50/50 going for GWAMM)
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GWAMM is getting carried across? I havn't read that anywhere. Is there a Link?
cosyfiep
I got the ztitle (level 3--almost to 4)...but am still working on the armor.
I would go for the title--you can get balthazar points in fa/jq which you can trade for the zkeys (did some of this too), and some of the items you get from the chest can be resold for a pretty decent profit (or to those working on drunkard and sweets).
I would go for the title--you can get balthazar points in fa/jq which you can trade for the zkeys (did some of this too), and some of the items you get from the chest can be resold for a pretty decent profit (or to those working on drunkard and sweets).
carnage-runner
OBBY! Zaishen Mission will always be there. Ecto/shard prices are only going to continue inflating with the way people are freaking out to buy FoW armor. Get the armor or it'll cost you more later. Zaishen keys can be farmed so easily with either Zaishen Missions or PVP.
Armor armor armor or you will be spending more on it later. Also. With the Zaishen chest, you can open it once or twice today from Zcoins or balth faction. And maybe once or twice tomorrow. Out of those 2-4 drops you may get something worth a bit of money. Sell it, get more keys, rinse repeat. Z keys come easy. Climbing ecto/shard prices don't come easy.
Armor armor armor or you will be spending more on it later. Also. With the Zaishen chest, you can open it once or twice today from Zcoins or balth faction. And maybe once or twice tomorrow. Out of those 2-4 drops you may get something worth a bit of money. Sell it, get more keys, rinse repeat. Z keys come easy. Climbing ecto/shard prices don't come easy.
Lortext
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GWAMM is getting carried across? I havn't read that anywhere. Is there a Link?
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Painbringer
FA Like a mad man (you get lots of keys from the faction) cash in other faction for Jade or amber sell to vendor or player (prices are high due to HOM) - Buy more keys with it.
A. You work on the Sucksan / kursuck title (which is not hard to reach they have many weekend events for double faction.) and get the Zaishen title
B. When you buy FOW armor you can look at all characters in it. In HOM which is really cool.
I need the armor to but I am so far away from having th coin (working on weapons currently)
Sunspear elite is a nice cheap armor
Vabbian will set you back a bit but nothing like Obsidian
Thats 2 points right there
Plan on some serious AFK time in the rings
Fortune and misfortune are easy to get just lots of afk time
Plan a session of serious punch out for a survivior (you may save some coin you get from drops) May want to start one now since some of the halloween quests are easy adn high exp.
I lucked out on the Zkeys back when we could pick winners from the tournament
PS Sorrows furnace is still coooool did it 2x last week for the title good fun
A. You work on the Sucksan / kursuck title (which is not hard to reach they have many weekend events for double faction.) and get the Zaishen title
B. When you buy FOW armor you can look at all characters in it. In HOM which is really cool.
I need the armor to but I am so far away from having th coin (working on weapons currently)
Sunspear elite is a nice cheap armor
Vabbian will set you back a bit but nothing like Obsidian
Thats 2 points right there
Plan on some serious AFK time in the rings
Fortune and misfortune are easy to get just lots of afk time
Plan a session of serious punch out for a survivior (you may save some coin you get from drops) May want to start one now since some of the halloween quests are easy adn high exp.
I lucked out on the Zkeys back when we could pick winners from the tournament
PS Sorrows furnace is still coooool did it 2x last week for the title good fun
Lihinel
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That's the dilemma: if I want 50/50, Obsidian is the obvious choice (it's required).
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If you only now managed to get enough gold for obsidian armor, there is simply NO WAY for you to get ANY normal PvP title to HoM status.
For Gladiator you would need a good synch guild if don't plan to get it done in exponential time
For Hero, you would need rank to get rank. (Okay, okay, you could find a startup guild [good luck with that btw] or grind yourself to 6 with random/uwfarm ways
)For Champion, well, you won't get Champion.
Btw, events are your friends, got 12 stacks ToT bags from quests on a couple different characters alone, thats 1/4 obsidian right there and I didn't even try to farm them. Also, nickolas, get the items and sell them, thats a quick 20k every monday, ~ 1 obsidian a year just from that.
Grunntar
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Actually, assuming zkeys at 5k ea it costs 1 million gold for R3 Zaishen. (200 keys X 5k)
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chuckles79
In practicality, go with Z3.
For presige however, I see a lot of Z3 or higher (same with gladiator), so FoW will impress the ladies more.
I think the tie breaking questions should be A. how does your profession look in Obby? If you are a rit, go z; if you are a para, go Obby
and B. how often do you PvP? If you do some occasional JQ then you can get some Z-keys while collecting Jade/Amber for Elite Faction armor (working on 4 pts. at the same time).
It's all a matter of what's the path of least resistance.
For presige however, I see a lot of Z3 or higher (same with gladiator), so FoW will impress the ladies more.
I think the tie breaking questions should be A. how does your profession look in Obby? If you are a rit, go z; if you are a para, go Obby
and B. how often do you PvP? If you do some occasional JQ then you can get some Z-keys while collecting Jade/Amber for Elite Faction armor (working on 4 pts. at the same time).
It's all a matter of what's the path of least resistance.