What is the lamest elite skill?

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

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My vote is Scribe's Insight; but I'm interested what others think.

NuclearSlug

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2009

Irontoe's Lair

[JAGG]

R/A

Balthazar's Pendulum by far

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Shroud of Silence by far.

Hells Fury

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

Winner is Second Wind. All those above can actually be used.

Bandwagon

Bandwagon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2010

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Winner is Second Wind. All those above can actually be used. I was going to say Amity, but damn, that sh!t takes the cake.

Warvic

Warvic

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Join Date: May 2009

The Netherlands

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Oh whoa! I play this game for 5.5 years and never heard of the skill: "Second Wind". I just looked it up and whoa! I now understand why i never heard of it!! What a bad elite haha

Mashiyu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

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Because Second Wind was already mentioned: Stone Sheath.

Gondrakif

Gondrakif

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GMT +2

Quick shot

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Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

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Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

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the unkown junundu ability.

Lanier

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[Pink]

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At least second wind and stone sheath have very useless uses. Amnity is simply not useable... at all.

Chrisworld

Chrisworld

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Gameamp Guides [AMP]

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Second Wind simply doesn't deserve it's elite status.

Showtime

Showtime

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WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

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All ranger elites.

Horace Slughorn

Horace Slughorn

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Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU]

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I think this has been done before but...

Shatter Storm

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

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As far as Warriors go, Decapitate is pretty horrible.

Calista Blackblood

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Northern Ireland

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Only one for this one :P Discord

Flagrant

Flagrant

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

Domain of Anguish

UWSC

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I don't know if you agree with me , but : BullĀ“s Charge . The " Ends if you use a skill " part makes it useless.

YornStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

Bad Net Fubar [bad]

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Damn, Amity and Second Wind are really bad skills. I'm a Legendary Skill Hunter and I honestly don't remember them.

impulsion

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Join Date: Sep 2008

Terra Noise [Zraw]

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Amity could have potential use seeing as it would disable skeletons in the UW

P_A_A

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^ Because "laughing the aatxes to death" isn't sarcasm aight ?

FengShuiDove

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Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

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Shadow Meld.

Lamest Assassin elite anyway. And there are some pretty lame ones.

Gennadios

Gennadios

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/A

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Damn, Amity and Second Wind are really bad skills. I'm a Legendary Skill Hunter and I honestly don't remember them. QFT. I did remember Second Wind from that time in 2006 some guild won a tourney by running 2 Second Wind eles.

But Amity... hot damn. I was puzzled, looked it up on wiki, and was like, "whoa."

I'd say The Power is Yours! Though. It's simply not worth it unless spammed every 3 seconds, and running a build built around spamming a skill every 3 seconds is simply... not fun.

Edo123

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

Of course the worst elite skill has to be - Shadow Form

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

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Second Wind
Amity
and looking at it I see no real time you would use Ether Prodigy unless you could burn through energy really RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing fast or had a small energy pool

Mashiyu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

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Originally Posted by Gennadios View Post
I'd say The Power is Yours! Though. It's simply not worth it unless spammed every 3 seconds, and running a build built around spamming a skill every 3 seconds is simply... not fun. TPiY! is the most powerful paragon energy management elite skill (okay, it's the only one). The paragon gets - depending on leadership - ~6 energy every 4 adrenaline strikes (basically nothing) that is comparable to Soul Reaping. It's also nice for keeping echoes up.

The downsides: GftE! (PvE, the PvP version has a nasty cooldown) does basically the same thingand most of the echos aren't really worth maintainig.

/Edit: Ops, forgot to mention that it triggers Finales

/Edit2: @Amnity on Aaxtes: Wouldn't it be theroratically possible to degen them to death? Life Steal? Grenth's Balance (i think "losing health" is not damage)?

Balistic Pve

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Shadow Meld.

Lamest Assassin elite anyway. And there are some pretty lame ones. Deep tank use this. And it seems really beneficial to it.

Gennadios

Gennadios

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The downsides: GftE! (PvE, the PvP version has a nasty cooldown) does basically the same thingand most of the echos aren't really worth maintainig. I rest my case. Since we're discussing this in the PvE forum:

Skill 1 gives physical character in the party a 30% chance of crit (at 0 command.) And will return up to 8 energy with a 4 adrenaline charge.

Skill 2 Gives every character including the paragon 1 (at 7+ mot) energy after 3 seconds. Will return up to 8 energy with a 4 adrenaline charge, AND takes up an elite slot.

Hell, even when running a Motagon it makes more sense to run Defensive Anthem for the elite and use Go For The Eyes as energy management.

Mashiyu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

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I'm not a fan of TPiY eigher but I wrote that over-positive post tho remember that it DOES actually something useful.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

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You put both TPiY AND GFTE on your bar, and suddenly you have enough energy to run scythes or daggers and deal actual damage, something paragons typically have trouble with. There's far worse elites than that.

Daeheru

Daeheru

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Join Date: Aug 2008

Hawaii

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Amity looks usable as a running skill, but that 45 second recharge kills it.

Second Wind is usable, but still horrible.

Quick Shot...there's no point to it. Called shot isn't even an elite and makes the arrow move 3 times faster than normal and unblockable. I want to see someone make a decent build for this elite.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quick shot WAS useable before they added the 1/2 aftercast to it. It was OK if a bit inferior for fast poison spreading, and it also worked with expert focus as a turret build. But it's just complete trash now.

Pyrewood

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My vote would be Signet of Midnight. It's a decent enough skill, but for an elite it seems pretty underwhelming.

Reverend Dr

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Balth's pendulum always seems to show up when smiter monks become popular.

Second Wind saw play after the last change to Ether Prodigy and while it was more prone to interruption, it actually had a higher energy return. It ended unused after the Ether Prodigy concept was abandoned.

Used to run double and triple Amity builds in TA. One of my favorite team builds of all time.

Shatter Storm has seen play a few times, though it's limited to strip spike builds.

Bull's Charge used to be part of the KGYU condi-pressure build.

Shadow Meld saw plenty of play in the Dual-meld HB build.

Power is Yours was one of the last meta Paragon elites, before paragons themselves fell out of meta.

Quick Shot used to be too powerful, but that was before the aftercast and when it was 1/2 cast.

Signet of Midnight used to be rather common in arenas before its most recent nerf.




But there are way worse elites than these.

Marksman's Wager - Ranger's don't need an energy management skill, and if for some reason they do, there are better options than an elite that might backfire and takes up your preparation.

Defiant Was Xinrae - Its Protective Spirit, except its elite, only self targeting, half as effective, and can be interrupted.

Healer's Covenant - Its energy management, except it lowers your healing output, so you have to cast more, and you have -1 energy regen, so it ultimately ends up having no effect on total energy spent and instead lowers the effectiveness of your healing prayers.

Power Flux - Its an elite interrupt, that its only benefit comes when the target successfully casts.

And there is the worst skill. Withdraw Hexes. I'm trying to think of a snarky comment, but just look at that skill. Just look at it.