HoM valor related stuff

Shadow Dragon

Shadow Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Harrismith, South Africa

[SAGA]

W/Mo

It's probably been mentioned to death, and put to death plenty of times in the past.

but with the valor monument only accepting torment, destroyer and opressor weapons, it seems a bit silly to me.

now this is just my personal oppinion but i think we should be allowed to add green weapons aswell, at stretch golds like my fellblade and shadow blade i've been using for yonks now. (5 years)

because to me the destroyer, torment and opressor stuff does not really look that good. apart from the torment shield none of the things we can add really does not appeal to me.

now this may just be pure projection on my part but i do believe my Kannaxai's Edge and Victo's Battle axe are "leet" enough to be shown along with my other gold's i've earned through playtime.

i'd truly love the option to add weapons to my hall i've actually had with me thoughout my time in GW.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

i will sign for greens not random gold drops tho

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Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Portugal

Forever Angels

N/Me

Makes perfect sense having greens included, anyone noticed how greens are discarded now? the monument of valor needs more weapons, period, the weapons we are allowed in there are ugly as hell.

One thing i don´t understand is that for GW2 we get a Fellblade and a Stygian Reaver although we can´t put them in the HoM?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Take your pick:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...archid=4993987

oexarity

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2010

Drunken Devil Dawgs [USMC]

D/

How about celestial weapons? Some of those are my personal favorites.

Shadow Dragon

Shadow Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Harrismith, South Africa

[SAGA]

W/Mo

just greens alone would be awesome

Milennin

Milennin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Europe

W/

Way too late to make such a big change to it now, even though I would love to have Celestial weapons in there.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Would like to add greens and some other weapons too but to what end ?

Be nice to display them and if you could use them in gw2 then also yes.

But for them to add points to the HOM in which case they would need to severely limit the points you could add from such weapons.

Maybe any 10 greens gives a point same for the others.
I doubt it would be popular or indeed fair if you could gain too many points this way.

pedrobds

pedrobds

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

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N/

hom is prestigious, if they let greens in people will max that monument for about 10k, its not supposed to be easy.

/notsigned

arch psyker

arch psyker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cantha

Pantheon Of Shadows [dei]

Rt/

yea adding green will be way to easy to max out the monument.

Regardless of skins, you may think that tormented/destroyer/oppressor items are horrible but there are people out there that love the skins.

/notsigned.

go cubs

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

Too easy if they add greens, the point of it is to be prestigious as mentioned before.

/notsigned.

Vlad

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

Canada, UW

O.O

R/

Seems pritty reasonable to add destroyer,torment and opressors in there. Rest is just simply ez to get.

/notsigned

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

It's already at the stage where it doesn't need to be altered again, see the reward calc.

/notsigned.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduin View Post
No matches. Brilliant


Anyway, been discussed/complained about a lot.

Since we now know how the HoM reward points work, /notsigned. It's not like you are getting those weapons in GW2. There is no point to it

Shriketalon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Deldrimor Weaponry, Forgotten Weaponry, Factions greens (on par with Destroyer gear), as well as Dhuum's Scythe, the Traveler's Staff, Shiro's Blades, the Rose Focus, a green Ghostly Hero's eternal sword, Urgoz's Bow, Kanaxai's Axe, one of Mallyx's wands, the Spear of the Hierophant, and an appropriately cool green Hammer and Shield.

That would round out the aesthetic choices with enough variety, methinks, to represent enough content and enough weapon styles to really flesh out the monument.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

only complaint I have about the HOM is regards the rewards a few of us were discussing the range of rewards tonight.

I run a Necro as my prime character and it would have been nice to have something that fitted the theme.
I thought since the necro is one of the most popular classes they might have catered for them.

Quite a bit for Warrior in the way of weapons, Rangers get 2 bows and 3 animal companions then its 3 just general caster items can only hope that they warp in skin to suit the class that uses them.

So the Knarled Staff and Clawed Scepter can somehow represent a fire based Ele type or a Necro and so on for all casters.

Suppose since they are gifts I should just be gracious and accept them as they are but it does irritate me.

Shadow Dragon

Shadow Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Harrismith, South Africa

[SAGA]

W/Mo

well i can fully understand normal greens you farm, but the canthan elite mission greens i'm still a bit hazy on.

i mean to say those are still a bit hard to get for normal players.

so in the end if those and at the very least end game greens could be added it would be nice.

probably won't happen but one can hope

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gremlin View Post
only complaint I have about the HOM is regards the rewards a few of us were discussing the range of rewards tonight.

I run a Necro as my prime character and it would have been nice to have something that fitted the theme.
I thought since the necro is one of the most popular classes they might have catered for them.

Quite a bit for Warrior in the way of weapons, Rangers get 2 bows and 3 animal companions then its 3 just general caster items can only hope that they warp in skin to suit the class that uses them.

So the Knarled Staff and Clawed Scepter can somehow represent a fire based Ele type or a Necro and so on for all casters.

Suppose since they are gifts I should just be gracious and accept them as they are but it does irritate me.
You also get daggers as a Necro/Ele.

Honestly, there is one weapon type in the HoM for every single weapon in GW2 (look and count, there is 1 axe, 1 shortbow, 1 longbow, 1 greatsword, 1 sword, etc etc etc). If you are complaining about the weapon distribution in the HoM, you might as well be complaining about the weapon distribution in GW2's professions entirely.

JoeGrogan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

ecok

Me/

I think any and all weapons should be able to be added to the monument - however keep the reward for the HOM calculator the same.

so /signed on the condition that only tormented, destroyer, and opressor weapons count.

Edit: Oh and same for armor sets too, but only have the elite ones count for calculator.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeGrogan View Post
I think any and all weapons should be able to be added to the monument - however keep the reward for the HOM calculator the same.

so /signed on the condition that only tormented, destroyer, and opressor weapons count.

Edit: Oh and same for armor sets too, but only have the elite ones count for calculator.
What would the point of that be? My understanding was that we won't get what we put in, we get what the HoM points correspond to. Putting things in that don't contribute to points would do nothing.

@OP /notsigned. Greens are common and not prestigous. Nor are golds, with the exception of a few rare skins. It would just make the Valor monument much simpler to fill (unless they multiplied the amount of weapons required by 3-5, which I wouldn't prefer).

JoeGrogan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

ecok

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade View Post
What would the point of that be? My understanding was that we won't get what we put in, we get what the HoM points correspond to. Putting things in that don't contribute to points would do nothing.
Yes they would. They'd sit there looking pretty in their display rack, same as every other thing di before they released the calculator.

RedStar

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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They'd sit there looking pretty in their display rack, same as every other thing di before they released the calculator.
The only reason people filled the valor monument before the HoM is because they knew it was going to count in the end.

Almost every green can be easily obtainable.
And if they had to chose which "rare" skins can go into the monument, there would be too much and it will just create a mass of "QQ why isn't that skin in ?"
Not everything rare is expensive (take a look at all those overfarmed and old rare weapons).

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

But surely it would be better to watch your character swinging the weapons and wearing the armor? People don't spend any more than a few minutes every now and then (if any at all) looking at what they've put in so I don't think it would be a worthwhile time/effort investment.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

The only problem is many greens and golds are worth 1k this point. They obviously wanted to choose things that people would have to play for, either raising cash or doing the missions.

JoeGrogan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

ecok

Me/

Not for me to say the work behind the scenes to get it to work would involve. Just saying it'd be a cool feature - I have a full HOM - as it is however not one of my 9 characters ever use any of the weapons, bar a destroyer shield as part of a defensive set - would be nice to see the weapons they actually use in the monument.

No problem if you disagree, my 2.5 cents anyway.

Gennadios

Gennadios

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/A

/notsigned along with everyone else.

Except for maybe Torments, I wouldn't say that Destro or Opp weapons are any more prestigious than random greens, but i'd rather have LESS usueless crap required to fill out my HoM, not more.

So far, my Derv, Sin, and Ele are enjoying their tormented Scythe/Dagger/Focus while the rest of the destroyer and oppressor crap is either wallowing somewhere in seldom used heroes or was salvaged for mats ages ago. Sure greens can at least be used to equip heroes, but the HoM is about the achievements of your own Toon, not what he equipped his companions with.

Retro8bitje

Retro8bitje

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Oss, the Netherlands

[AdHd]

W/

/notsigned for Greens they are way to easy to get.

I would like to see rare gold skins in there. /Sign for that option only :P
TBH even the Destoyers weapons are to easy to get.