Fissure of Woe (FoW)

Bloss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

Me/Rt

So then, my main issues for concern are:Is a UA Monk hero a good choice for one of the healers? Should this be a standard UA+Prot build? Do they need to have condition AND hex removal on the bar?
if you don't take hexremoval your war will be really sad. Emphaty and spitefull spirit, please do take hexremoval
Are minion masters useful at all in FoW? I'd like to run a typical prot-carrying minion bomber if so.
They work quite well Is it worth it to bring a Signet of Ghostly Might hero (with Pain, Shadowsong, Disenchantment, Dissonance, Anguish)?
from my exprience mobs die extremely fast, and since it's a hero they aren't very mobile, I wouldn't take it (did take it on my rt but with soul twisting and spirit spam, and me as SoS What about a Soul Twisting Communing hero with Displacement, Shelter, and Union?
nm 2 healers and your minion master (if you take it) should be enough defense I'm assuming you only need 2 bar pushers, tops, in a normal FoW run. What should the second healer be?
anything really, but as before, your war will love hexremoval Are Panic (or Psychic Instability, or Ineptitude) Mesmers useful? I have all of those options available to me, and they prove pretty damn useful in other areas.
never used it on other chars than my own mesmer, with my mesmer I'm not sure if I love it, but alot of melee and WoH monks, mesmer should have a place depending on your DPS. Note that panic can counter Spitefull Spirit (rupts attacks too) to some degree Is Edge of Extinction super useful in here? It sure sounds like it, from reading the tactics on the FoW Manlyspike page, but maybe that only pertains to speed clears?
the balling a FoWSC does is likely not something you will simply achieve with a normal group, wouldn't dedicate a bar to it, but might have it usefulness Since consumables only last 30 minutes, and we'd prefer to only use one full set without rushing through, what part of the whole run would you recommend popping the conset at? I have no idea which quests in there are the hardest.
in NM nowhere for sure, in hardmode I still find it overrated, but I guess the burning forest (will still last when you get to the wailing lord) Just for my own personal curiosity, how hard is FoW these days? I know it used to be considered very difficult, but it seems opinions I've read vary greatly these days. From what I read, it sounds like in order of difficulty (very rough estimates, including full clears [so, including Mallyx, Dhuum, etc]): DoA > UW > FoW > The Deep = Urgoz's Warren. Is that a fair statement?
FoW is quite easy, not sure if deep or urgoz are easier. Maybe you want to read in which order someone does it, so wrote that down too. If you're not bothered, goodluck and have alot of fun.

likely a bit late. But as alot of people said, FoW is really easy, especially on nm, I've done it too much (easy xp for survivor) so might be able to help a bit.
I always do the quests in this order:

1. tower of courage, simply kill stuff and keep the quest-dude alive (take the wailing lord quest after)
2. Army of Darkness, kill Menzies, be carefull to not pull to many, return the item
3. the eternal forge master (just clear the tower?)
4. defend the temple of war, we usually wait for them to come up, but you can lure, split 4/4 or rush and be fast
Then we take every quest we find, tower of strenght, restore the temple and kohbay the betrayer.
our order:
5. restore the temple (don't forget the shard wolf quest, the hunter is outside the entrance of the cave, 1 shard wolf is on the beach at the other side of the cave, other places just wiki them, do them along your run.) Once again just kill everything
6. kohbay the betrayer (just kill everything)
7. Then we usually move on to the burning forest, (north-east) take the quest slaves of menzie from miko the unchained (clearing a big part of the forest before is saver, in nm I don't even bother doing that with survivors.) Spreading out helps for hydras if you don't have rupts or bit of prot.
8. Tower of strenght, in 3+ man groups we usually send 1 back to get the one who opens the door in the Forge, while the others clear the place, if you preffer just kill everything together and then go to the forge, get the dude etc.
9. we move to the wailing lord (finally) kill everything but him. used 2 tactieks here, either leave one back (since you have 3 people one could if he/she has no heroes) or walk back afterwards, it takes longer, but it's one of your last quests, really wanna risk getting kicked out, no. But someone was clear about this a few posts above.

Usually we have all wolfs dead already, otherwise hunt and kill them, get your reward and your statue. Btw this order is not perfect, but I found it nice.

Ps: imo about every build can work, just use what heroes use well and w/e you like. I liked fall back since sometimes you have to walk loads.

if you care: with war I went with another war, we simply used RoJ smites (judge insight/SoH) and WoH healers (not the best, we were lazy to change builds) Rt I went along with a mes, only heroes we always took were Soul twisting commoning spirit spamming hero, me SoS and spirit healers (necro or rt with tease) Others I don't remember sorry, but they aren't the most thought-off groups anyways.