Petiton "Waiting Game" restore! (part of Festival Events removed from Quest Log)

[V13]_Doc-Savage

[V13]_Doc-Savage

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Raleigh, NC

OEC (part of RUSH)

Me/

For some strange reasons, all the Quests under the Festival Events tab in Log were recently removed as part of post-Halloween clean up build. Please revert and restore all the quest with their correct status flag (especially Waiting Game which can be completed in UW anytime during the year without special NPCs).
Thanks A-NET!

PETITION = Please at least bring back the "Waiting Game" quest!!!

Please support by signing below....

Neith

Neith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

Texas

One in Guild Wars

R/

/signed for getting back the waiting game on my characters.....

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

R/

Taking away all the quests was the only way they could stop players from going into the monoleseum and getting bugged weapons with extra mods.

They didn't take away your quests in an evil attempt to ruin your fun.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDog91 View Post
Taking away all the quests was the only way they could stop players from going into the monoleseum and getting bugged weapons with extra mods.

They didn't take away your quests in an evil attempt to ruin your fun.
Taking away "Comandeering a Mortal Vessel" only would've stopped that just fine. Maybe this was a lazy solution, or maybe they didn't want Waiting Game lingering on for some reason as well.

Tarug

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/

It seems most people are upset due to the removal of "The Waiting Game" quest, which could be done and redeemed after Halloween was over. To solve this, they should just place a temporary NPC to allow you to obtain only this quest.

/signed for The Waiting Game

[V13]_Doc-Savage

[V13]_Doc-Savage

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Raleigh, NC

OEC (part of RUSH)

Me/

Hey...
I like that idea (see my "suggestion" @ http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/t...t10457651.html ) for NPC just giving out the "Waiting Game" quest! Maybe can combo.. please go over and sign that as well. Thanks!

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

I fail to see the problem here. We knew when Halloween was going to end...This is a Halloween quest...that gives Halloween rewards. Weather the reward accepting NPC is special or not, I don't see why we need this.

Mine was taken away but it's my own fault I didn't turn it in in time...

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

R/

/signed

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajc2123 View Post
I fail to see the problem here. We knew when Halloween was going to end...This is a Halloween quest...that gives Halloween rewards. Weather the reward accepting NPC is special or not, I don't see why we need this.

Mine was taken away but it's my own fault I didn't turn it in in time...
I think you are missing the point ajc, most of us had the quest from last year, we had no notice it would disappear. It is not strictly a halloween quest as it could be done at any time during the year.

WarcryOfTruth

WarcryOfTruth

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2009

Atlanta

[LIFE]

P/

While having it back would be nice, I believe it was removed because this year it was to be Halloween specific only. Which is why, at least why I think they increased the Trick or Treat bags reward from 100 to 250. Last year was 100, this year was 250, so I think they intended for it to end after Halloween. While notice may have been nice, they technically can say nothing and get away with it, which is what they did.

In short, be upset, but it was intended to be completed during Halloween, they did not have to announce that it would be unavailable. Sorry if you all disagree, but this is how I took it. I had 5 characters with it, and I am a little sad that I cannot complete it anymore, but I at least look at the other side of the coin

jackinthe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

last year we could not even complete it until after halloween npcs were removed.
i grabbed the q on all my chars figuring it would be the same.

Stapler Pirate

Stapler Pirate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

Australia

Shore Headcrab Society [SHS]

N/

/signed
Anything that gets more title points into the game is great on my watch... with the population shrinking the price of points has to be kept down.

s1rmitch.ch

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Bern, Switzerland, (Europe)

Miss S C H W E I Z

E/Me

/signed for the Waiting Game
really pls...i wanna have it back QQ

Spookii

Spookii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Southeast, USA

N/

/notsigned

It's a Halloween quest. <.< Halloween is over.

Reward
15,000 Experience
5,000 Gold
250 Trick-or-Treat Bags <------------
1 Passage Scroll to the Underworld

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

It's a Halloween quest that couldn't even be completed until several weeks after Halloween last year.

/signed.

domaspiragas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2010

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

D/E

/notsigned

This year is this year, not last year...

Crimson Court

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

MCWO

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spookii View Post
/notsigned

It's a Halloween quest. <.< Halloween is over.
It's the way they removed the quests, and also in mid-day with no warning (could've waited at nighttime) that makes it pretty frustrating.

Spookii

Spookii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Southeast, USA

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson Court View Post
It's the way they removed the quests, and also in mid-day with no warning (could've waited at nighttime) that makes it pretty frustrating.
I can see how it would be frustrating, but it still doesn't make sense for them to return it. We all knew when Halloween was going to end. They probably kept it last year because like some others said, it couldn't be completed until after Halloween had ended.

Ask for an apology or just live and learn, I guess.

Madpierre

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

YUM

N/Mo

/Signed return the Waiting Game quest

The quest is entitled the WAITING game. We waited to collect it after the event was over and then it was gone. If they were going to remove it then something should have been said so we could cash it in

Johny bravo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

[SoS]

N/

I guess I am just repeating the point made many times already. It was a Halloween quest, all the other holiday related quests end when the festival is over why should this one be any different. If you want to say "oh well last year it didn't" that is simply because last year it was part of something larger, a build up to a new UW boss (Dhuum). This year was simply a re-enactment.
I myself had it on 6 characters but it was a risk I took as farming every little bit helps was easier to get done, I am sure the majority of people who had it removed were doing the same thing trying to maximize their take during the event and then cashing in on the waiting game after the event.
You gambled, the house won, its gone; deal with it and stop whining.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

/notsigned. Get over it. You should have done it during Halloween. It was a Halloween quest, not an all year quest.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

/signed....I liked the incentive to actually DO the uw....now I have zero and without groups that do it NON SPEED CLEARING, hopes of getting it finished again ZERO.

dont understand why they could not just change the mausoleum so that if you tried to get in you are transported back to the outpost (like the bug that happened to peeps who didnt have eye).....would have been the best solution.

(not to mention over wintersday I did some of the wintersday quests and the ones I did not complete then were removed with OUT removing my waiting game quest)

silavor

silavor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

Keepers Of Twilight

/signed

There's no reason to remove it, especially since most of us still had it from 09 when it first came out.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

/not signed. Halloween is over. It'll come around again in about a year. While you're waiting, please feel free to enjoy several other fun and exciting special holiday and weekend events that Arena Net has to offer.

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

Signed, and all the guys saying its a haloween get over it have no idea what they talking about.
Even tho they removed ta and hb, I still got the ta zaishen combat quest.
That makes their argument of removing it flawed.

Spookii

Spookii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Southeast, USA

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coast View Post
Signed, and all the guys saying its a haloween get over it have no idea what they talking about.
Even tho they removed ta and hb, I still got the ta zaishen combat quest.
That makes their argument of removing it flawed.
It doesn't make it "flawed". Your example seems more like a bug or a flaw than it does something that they did for a reason.

The only reason I can see is if you completed the quest but didn't turn it in in time. Zaishen Quests are year round, not a festival event, even if they removed TA. Keeping it in wouldn't give you any extra time to complete the quest, really. If you didn't do the ZQuest before TA was removed, you'll never complete it so it's a useless quest sitting in your log. If you did do the ZQuest before it was removed but didn't turn it in, you still don't get any extra TA chances. You just get to turn the quest into a quest giver that's a part of the year-round game. Whereas if you complete the Waiting Game, you get 250 ToT bags that are exclusive to a certain festival in the game that is only available for a certain period of time in the game. Not to mention we'd have to have a random Halloween NPC sitting around.

So, completely different situation there.

Like someone else said earlier, you took a gamble. :/

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

Still, theres no reason to remove quests even when the event is over

[V13]_Doc-Savage

[V13]_Doc-Savage

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Raleigh, NC

OEC (part of RUSH)

Me/

FYI.. I have opened an official Incident ticket with Support as well as posted item on Gaile gray to get involve for assistance in at least determining whether this was an accident (something that can be fixed) or it was intention (and if so, why?). That way we can at least get an answer and see if any hope this is addressed. Thanks for everyone's support!

Surge goes pre

Surge goes pre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

I would never play off Occupy Wall St. for my guild name

We Are the 1 Percent

Me/

Lol this quest is the least of Anets worries right now. Let it go. The only reaso you all want it back is for one lousy tot stack. Let Anet focus on their problem of triples without QQing over 25k...

/not signed

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Last time the quest wasn't removed after Halloween because Dhuum wasn't implemented into the game yet at Halloween. That's why it is called the Waiting Game.

This time Dhuum was killable at Halloween, so I have come to believe the removal of the quest was intended, like happens with the other festival quests.

Wouldn't mind if the quest was restored though, it's just that I don't care one way or the other.

Nyta

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

/signed

I understand why it was removed, but it would be nice to be able to get it back to do at any time, just as we could when it was offered last year.

Milennin

Milennin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Europe

W/

I don't understand what makes this quest so special to people... is it the stack of Trick or Treat bags it gives you as a reward? That'd be kinda pathetic.

You can still complete the UnderWorld any day you want

aznkda

aznkda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

Mo/

/not signed

There's always next year, people had a week to do those quest.

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by aznkda View Post
/not signed

There's always next year, people had a week to do those quest.
Wich I done on 8characters in 1day.
Then the next day I log on and they remove it.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

This quest helped PUGs/guild groups try out UW more. Signed.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

/signed as it was not a halloween only quest

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

/notsigned

This petition is only for lazy people that want a little bit more easy money.

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by N E D M View Post
/signed as it was not a halloween only quest
Yes... yes it was. Seeing as you got the quest from Mad King's Steward, makes a Halloween only quest. The NPC only shows during the Halloween festival, so again, thus it is a Halloween only quest.

The holiday is over. If you had the quest, should of done it during that entire time the event was going on, instead of holding it to the end and then being shocked that the event is over and now your quest is gone.

It was a Halloween only quest. Who cares what happened last year? That was last year. This is THIS year. You thought you could keep the quest, you couldn't. Oh well, move on. It is just a quest.

/notsigned

dagrdagaz

dagrdagaz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2010

NL

E/N

/signed

Becos the quest reward can be gotten from a non-Helloween only NPC, the quest can be done all year then.

As mentioned, it may attrackt more players (like me) to try UW, also becos killing Dhuum is not required for completing The Waiting Game quest !!!

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

signed, its absolutely retarted to remove quests for w/e reason.

[V13]_Doc-Savage

[V13]_Doc-Savage

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Raleigh, NC

OEC (part of RUSH)

Me/

Even though the "Waiting Game" may have just been a victim of a sweeping change implementation, I have gotten reply from support that it was not a bug or mistake to remove all the Festival quest but Dev team intentional to make them limited to only seasonal time. So upon their recommendation, I have now submitted the request to keep this as a year-round quest into the Feedback portal on wiki as suggestion @ http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...le_year-round! ; please consider reviewing and commenting with support if you agreed & miss this UW quest. Thanks!