Hi, I did a search to see if this has even been mentioned before and nothing came up. If I am mistaken and there is a thread similar in context to this, please direct me to that.
I have a character that is going for the LDOA title and I don't want to move him to post and take him to HoM just to dedicate this title so it goes toward my Hall Of Monuments Reward Points.
I want to stay in presearing forever on this character but still be able to have the title count.
My request/proposition is to allow the Legendary Defender Of Ascalon title be an account-wide title so when completed on any character, I can use one of my post-searing characters to easily add the achievement to my Hall Of Monuments.
I think I speak for most perma-pre players on this issue.
Thank you.
Legendary Defender Of Ascalon (Account-Wide)
shadowlurk16
Uriel_Wolfblood
Hey I'm digging this idea. I know I don't want to take my LDoA out of pre. That's the whole point in spending the time and energy into doing the title in the first place!
/signed
/signed
instanceskiller
Well, I don't know about that, I understand why you would want it to be account wide, but I don't think it would make sense for a canthan or elonian character to have that title. I don't think there would be any logical way lore wise to add the title without going post-searing. The only thing I can think of is that a portal randomly appears that takes you to a future hall of monuments but with the door closed so you can't leave it and all the tapestries are already placed up for you so that you can add your title. However, if you ever decide to leave pre searing, then you will have to gather all the tapestry scrolls because the hall of monuments will be empty again if you go there. This is why I say future, because in the future, you will have inevitably filled up your hom, lore wise.
Spookii
No.
Nightfall and factions characters shouldn't have it.
Nightfall and factions characters shouldn't have it.
MithranArkanere
It makes sense.
With survivor, you can just bring the character there.
But if you bring the LDoA, it is no longer a LDoA.
Since HoM titles are account wide, and it's not a tittle that give benefits, so doing it with more than one character it's just... well, not something you usually do, that would at least let people put the title in the HoM without losing the character.
But, if you do it, you must be aware that those that have already took out their characters outside pre would not be very pleased...
It would be better if you could add it with a single character without leaving pre, like some new NPC in the North lands that appears when all players have Eye of the North, so you can talk to it. The the NPC 'records' the deed in the HoM account wide.
That way we won't have characters around that are not actually LDoA.
With survivor, you can just bring the character there.
But if you bring the LDoA, it is no longer a LDoA.
Since HoM titles are account wide, and it's not a tittle that give benefits, so doing it with more than one character it's just... well, not something you usually do, that would at least let people put the title in the HoM without losing the character.
But, if you do it, you must be aware that those that have already took out their characters outside pre would not be very pleased...
It would be better if you could add it with a single character without leaving pre, like some new NPC in the North lands that appears when all players have Eye of the North, so you can talk to it. The the NPC 'records' the deed in the HoM account wide.
That way we won't have characters around that are not actually LDoA.
Loki Seiguro
/not signed
not that hard to make another character to dedicate to LDOA and also its not required to be in HOM. Most people on (presearing.com) have close to 3 LDOAs more or less...just takes time and effort like any other title.
not that hard to make another character to dedicate to LDOA and also its not required to be in HOM. Most people on (presearing.com) have close to 3 LDOAs more or less...just takes time and effort like any other title.
O Frost O
LDoA is one of the very few titles left with some prestige still attached to it, and I believe it should only be wearable as a title for the character that earned it. It's a testament to your trials like GWAMM, if they were account wide titles everyone would be prancing around as GWAMM and LDoA's.
Anet was gracious enough to allow for it to be counted as an account wide title in the HoM and I think that is enough. It is your personal decision whether you leave your character in pre or take them to post. I have friends that have done both, and are quite content with their personal decision... Then again you could always make a second LDoA and have the best of both worlds
Anet was gracious enough to allow for it to be counted as an account wide title in the HoM and I think that is enough. It is your personal decision whether you leave your character in pre or take them to post. I have friends that have done both, and are quite content with their personal decision... Then again you could always make a second LDoA and have the best of both worlds
bsoltan
No, that is a terrible idea.
If you want it in the HoM just make another character.
If you want it in the HoM just make another character.
lodgeinator
Couldnt they make it appear in the hom without going there?
yitjuan
they should add an NPC in pre searing that recognizes it.
shadowlurk16
Having an NPC in Pre-Searing that would add your LDOA achievement to the Hall of Monuments would be an awesome idea.
For those of you that just say that my idea is dumb and don't supply a reason, stay off the forums and troll other threads please.
Thanks to those who have posted honest, well-thought out, and well-supported answers! Keep em' coming!
For those of you that just say that my idea is dumb and don't supply a reason, stay off the forums and troll other threads please.
Thanks to those who have posted honest, well-thought out, and well-supported answers! Keep em' coming!
Dre
This might be a better idea:
While in account wide mode, any character is able to add titles from another character as long as the title is not yet added to your monument.
I.E.: You don't gain the title on all your characters, but you can use another character to add it
While in account wide mode, any character is able to add titles from another character as long as the title is not yet added to your monument.
I.E.: You don't gain the title on all your characters, but you can use another character to add it
Warvic
I like the idea of a npc in pre-searing that can transfer the title to the HoM.
Please Anet! <3
Please Anet! <3
RedDog91
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Originally Posted by shadowlurk16
Having an NPC in Pre-Searing that would add your LDOA achievement to the Hall of Monuments would be an awesome idea
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"I once knew this guy, you kind of look like him, and he was a great guy. He was one of the best soldiers in Ascalon's army. You know what? Take his medal and put it in your own Hall of Monuments. No no, I insist."?
gremlin
I suspect they will just think why not move that character on in the game and start another perm pre searing character.
The suggestion allowing one character on an account to add the title another character on the same account has earned seems a good compromise if it can be coded easily.
Signed for that option
The suggestion allowing one character on an account to add the title another character on the same account has earned seems a good compromise if it can be coded easily.
Signed for that option
jazilla
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Originally Posted by Dre
This might be a better idea:
While in account wide mode, any character is able to add titles from another character as long as the title is not yet added to your monument. I.E.: You don't gain the title on all your characters, but you can use another character to add it |
Sethellington
Good idea I think. If you have the title you should be able to keep it where it really belongs.
Lol don't get too involved in the mechanics of it! Does this means it should take a few years for anything you say in PM/Guild/AC in pre searing to reach the post searing chars too?
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Originally Posted by RedDog91
"I once knew this guy, you kind of look like him, and he was a great guy. He was one of the best soldiers in Ascalon's army. You know what? Take his medal and put it in your own Hall of Monuments. No no, I insist."?
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Aldric
/not signed
Sear it and add it into your HoM if you want the points otherwise why bother having the HoM at all.
Sear it and add it into your HoM if you want the points otherwise why bother having the HoM at all.
New Buddha
/not signed
If you wanted to prance around in Pre with the LDoA title, fine..stay there but if you wanted to add to your HoM...well, sorry.
If you wanted to prance around in Pre with the LDoA title, fine..stay there but if you wanted to add to your HoM...well, sorry.
Gennadios
I don't understand why anyone would want to stay in Pre after attaining LDoA.
Even the Northlands stop being difficult after about lvl16, and at 20 you lose access to the fire imp, which removes a significant chunk of your DPS for farming.
Makes more sense to just create a new perma-pre at that point.
Even the Northlands stop being difficult after about lvl16, and at 20 you lose access to the fire imp, which removes a significant chunk of your DPS for farming.
Makes more sense to just create a new perma-pre at that point.
Eragon Zarroc
I don't mind, would give me 37 max titles on my main char 
Can we make survivor account wide too 
38 max!
nah, unfortunately, it's too late in the game to do this. sorry.
/notsigned.
Can we make survivor account wide too 38 max!nah, unfortunately, it's too late in the game to do this. sorry.
/notsigned.
RedStar
I don't really get why anyone would like to stay in pre-searing after gaining LDoA
Anyway, it's not like you have to put that title in the HoM now. Put it a few days before GW2 is released. By then maybe you will be bored with pre-searing and decide to finally leave it.
Anyway, it's not like you have to put that title in the HoM now. Put it a few days before GW2 is released. By then maybe you will be bored with pre-searing and decide to finally leave it.
Roen
/not signed
I have a L15 pre e/mo right now DLing. I want to keep that char in pre. But I want LDoA in my HoM. It's a choice I have to make. Since I like pre- so much, there's no reason I can't create a new toon to run around there. I will probably go post once I hit LDoA. Just because I weigh the pros and cons and value having LDoA in my HoM more than keeping that toon in pre. I'd value it even more if LDoA were like GWAMM in that I could "wear" it in GW2.
Sometimes you have to make a choice: Stay in Pre and forego the title in HoM or go Post for HoM and lose ePeen of LDoA walking around in Pre. It's your choice to make. Make it and live with the consequences.
I have a L15 pre e/mo right now DLing. I want to keep that char in pre. But I want LDoA in my HoM. It's a choice I have to make. Since I like pre- so much, there's no reason I can't create a new toon to run around there. I will probably go post once I hit LDoA. Just because I weigh the pros and cons and value having LDoA in my HoM more than keeping that toon in pre. I'd value it even more if LDoA were like GWAMM in that I could "wear" it in GW2.
Sometimes you have to make a choice: Stay in Pre and forego the title in HoM or go Post for HoM and lose ePeen of LDoA walking around in Pre. It's your choice to make. Make it and live with the consequences.
Shayne Hawke
LDoA doesn't even belong anywhere outside of pre-Searing.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
what negativity....
if pre sear titles dont belong elsewhere, let HoM not accept it (will have bad influences on the game)
giving pre sear, which is no longer JUST a tutorial, such npc wouldnt make people who dont do that unhappy, and makes people who do do that much happier
people like pre sear, which is why there's LDoA, charr bags and charr salvage kits, Anet did that for a reason "to make people who like pre sear, happy"
i see no good reason why they wouldnt do such thing
LDoA is made for pre sear, and IMO should stay there, so account-wide or giving pre an npc who can put it in your account's HoM would be excelent
that npc should be enabled once at least 1 character on that account has used the tapestries
to explain why people like staying in ascalon is easy:
because they like it there, and has an own community (not just presearing.com), and i dont disagree, its fun there, especially if you have nice friends there
there are too much people who like that title AND like to stay there with that character, so it does more good than bad (as i see nothing bad) when they do something about it
maybe Anet has its own way to take care of it
people like their title they achieved, and did it with their hearts (not all, but alot of em did) and taking it away cuz they have to start it over, sounds dumb
or does everyone who has canthan titles while from proph or NF, have to start over with a canthan char to really deserve it? no? then why not the same with LDoA
i know some dont see my point, but i hope its clear enough to understand how i think about it....
if pre sear titles dont belong elsewhere, let HoM not accept it (will have bad influences on the game)
giving pre sear, which is no longer JUST a tutorial, such npc wouldnt make people who dont do that unhappy, and makes people who do do that much happier
people like pre sear, which is why there's LDoA, charr bags and charr salvage kits, Anet did that for a reason "to make people who like pre sear, happy"
i see no good reason why they wouldnt do such thing
LDoA is made for pre sear, and IMO should stay there, so account-wide or giving pre an npc who can put it in your account's HoM would be excelent
that npc should be enabled once at least 1 character on that account has used the tapestries
to explain why people like staying in ascalon is easy:
because they like it there, and has an own community (not just presearing.com), and i dont disagree, its fun there, especially if you have nice friends there
there are too much people who like that title AND like to stay there with that character, so it does more good than bad (as i see nothing bad) when they do something about it
maybe Anet has its own way to take care of it
people like their title they achieved, and did it with their hearts (not all, but alot of em did) and taking it away cuz they have to start it over, sounds dumb
or does everyone who has canthan titles while from proph or NF, have to start over with a canthan char to really deserve it? no? then why not the same with LDoA
i know some dont see my point, but i hope its clear enough to understand how i think about it....
ProX AcciaiO
/signed
for a presearing player that title it's like god for the others. try to make that title, and then everyone of you will understand why i signed. there are gods that prefer show "Defender Of Ascalon" instead "God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals".. this is becouse it's the hardest.
boredom kills you
for a presearing player that title it's like god for the others. try to make that title, and then everyone of you will understand why i signed. there are gods that prefer show "Defender Of Ascalon" instead "God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals".. this is becouse it's the hardest.
boredom kills you
New Buddha
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Originally Posted by ProX AcciaiO
/signed
for a presearing player that title it's like god for the others. try to make that title, and then everyone of you will understand why i signed. there are gods that prefer show "Defender Of Ascalon" instead "God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals".. this is becouse it's the hardest. boredom kills you |
Roen
I like pre-searing ascalon a lot. It's my favorite area of the game thus far, approached closely only by Norn areas of EotN. But that's entirely subjective. Maybe LDoA shouldn't have ever counted in the HoM. But it does. That ship has sailed. I don't see why it's unfair for people to make a choice. Life is full of choices. GW is full of choices. Did people who got LDoA before the HoM calculator was released do it for the HoM? No. So stay in pre and keep it there.
I like it there too. And there's plenty of reasons to stay there. But again, it's entirely subjective. No need to say, "it's boring why would you stay?" etc.
But for game continuity, anything that happens pre-searing is years before the rest of the game and way before the events of EotN. So *personally* it makes no logical sense to have it count there.
If they could find a way for it to fit into the story, fine.
Perhaps, a new quest in EotN that is only available if you have an LDoA toon that lets you pick up a trophy to place in the hall of monuments. Or a two-part quest that you have to complete one part of in Pre-searing with an LDoA character that the end result causes some trophy to be buried in Regent Valley or something. Then a Post-searing toon can do a follow-up quest to retrieve the buried quest item which can be taken to the HoM and displayed as LDoA trophy.
But whatever, while that might be cool...I'll just go post if I want the trophy in my HoM.
I like it there too. And there's plenty of reasons to stay there. But again, it's entirely subjective. No need to say, "it's boring why would you stay?" etc.
But for game continuity, anything that happens pre-searing is years before the rest of the game and way before the events of EotN. So *personally* it makes no logical sense to have it count there.
If they could find a way for it to fit into the story, fine.
Perhaps, a new quest in EotN that is only available if you have an LDoA toon that lets you pick up a trophy to place in the hall of monuments. Or a two-part quest that you have to complete one part of in Pre-searing with an LDoA character that the end result causes some trophy to be buried in Regent Valley or something. Then a Post-searing toon can do a follow-up quest to retrieve the buried quest item which can be taken to the HoM and displayed as LDoA trophy.
But whatever, while that might be cool...I'll just go post if I want the trophy in my HoM.
dav21
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Originally Posted by shadowlurk16
Having an NPC in Pre-Searing that would add your LDOA achievement to the Hall of Monuments would be an awesome idea.
For those of you that just say that my idea is dumb and don't supply a reason, stay off the forums and troll other threads please. Thanks to those who have posted honest, well-thought out, and well-supported answers! Keep em' coming! |
aznkda
Would be better if there's an NPC in presear that can put the LDoA title into HoM instead of making it account wide.
Aeronwen
/notsigned to making it account-wide
but
/signed to having a mechanism for perma pres to display their titles in HoM
however I am not waiting for that but starting a second LDoA
those who do not have a perma pre do not understand or do not care but mine will NEVER exit pre., and a lot of people feel the same way.
but
/signed to having a mechanism for perma pres to display their titles in HoM
however I am not waiting for that but starting a second LDoA
those who do not have a perma pre do not understand or do not care but mine will NEVER exit pre., and a lot of people feel the same way.
Marty Silverblade
Making it account-wide is bad for two reasons. First, a character would be able to gain both LDoA and Survivor, and secondly Factions and NF chars could get it which makes no sense.
Having an NPC that transfers LDoA to the HoM is the better solution, but I really couldn't care about it. /notsigned.
Having an NPC that transfers LDoA to the HoM is the better solution, but I really couldn't care about it. /notsigned.
domaspiragas
No, that's stupid. It's even frustrating to read people agreeing. I had to take my LDoA out of Pre to put the title in Hall. You can do it too, it's not the end of the world... And what the hell would my Derv be doing in old Ascalon? The title wouldn't make sense.
/notsigned
/notsigned
shadowlurk16
The reason I want to keep an LDOA in pre goes hand-in-hand with the reason why you want LDOA in the first place. We Love Presearing.
The colors, the music, the joyful personalities of all the characters, the neverending quest for the maximum presearing armor and weapons, the gate monkeying, the new players ready to be helped, the beauty.
Players should have a choice if they want to stay or not....and we do. And we still want to get the rewards in the HoM for our hard work and still be able to enjoy the beauty of pre on an LDOA without having to go through the work of creating another.
The colors, the music, the joyful personalities of all the characters, the neverending quest for the maximum presearing armor and weapons, the gate monkeying, the new players ready to be helped, the beauty.
Players should have a choice if they want to stay or not....and we do. And we still want to get the rewards in the HoM for our hard work and still be able to enjoy the beauty of pre on an LDOA without having to go through the work of creating another.
Lanier
Here's a better idea: make it so that characters in presearing can dedicate their title to the hall of monuments in presearing. This would accomplish being able to keep your character in pre without allowing paras or rits to walk around with the title. I can understand wanting to keep your LDoA in pre since many make those characters in order for them to be perma-pre characters.
/signed for my suggestion
/notsigned for the original suggestion
/signed for my suggestion
/notsigned for the original suggestion
Spookii
I will /sign something that lets pre-searing characters put their title in the HoM without going to post. But making it account wide is overdoing it a bit. You don't need a chainsaw to slice a tomato.
Like I said, Factions + Nightfall characters should never get the option of displaying LDoA. It has always been for characters who went through the Searing.
Like I said, Factions + Nightfall characters should never get the option of displaying LDoA. It has always been for characters who went through the Searing.
SunfallE
As one who has a LDoA in Pre, if we want it in HoM, we can move them there. We can always DL another character for the title if we want to still have a perma pre toon.
I don't object to a means for the title to show up without them leaving... but making it account wide, seriously? That gets a big /NOTSIGNED from this LDoA.
I don't object to a means for the title to show up without them leaving... but making it account wide, seriously? That gets a big /NOTSIGNED from this LDoA.
Shadowspawn X
Personally my LDoA will never leave pre-searing and I think there should be a backdoor for a LDoA to register in the HoM. However this is the wrong solution as there are too many account wide titles that make no sense as it stands imo (pvp toons with treasure hunter 
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/notsigned
). /notsigned
novawhiz
something that is so clearly and blatantly character specific be account wide?? what lol?
gremlin
Given that the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title is a bit dodgy anyway.
Becoming a legend for avoiding the war has got to be a strange concept and its presence as a title always lowered my opinion of the development team.
So I gave the idea some more thought, I think they should really give you the title when you arrive after the searing.
So get to 20th level then go through the searing and then get the title.
That at least has some logic about it, you entered the war as a more experienced character achieved more and became a legendary defender.
Rather than you threw yourself on your enemies swords till they became worthy enough for you to fight them and gain experience.
Becoming a legend for avoiding the war has got to be a strange concept and its presence as a title always lowered my opinion of the development team.
So I gave the idea some more thought, I think they should really give you the title when you arrive after the searing.
So get to 20th level then go through the searing and then get the title.
That at least has some logic about it, you entered the war as a more experienced character achieved more and became a legendary defender.
Rather than you threw yourself on your enemies swords till they became worthy enough for you to fight them and gain experience.