Imbue Health: potential?
LifeInfusion
Playing around with this skill... inspired by having to bring Melonni for today's ZM (Nundu Bay). The mysticism attribute has almost nothing to offer for dervish heroes, since perma-Avatar isn't an option. (Pious Renewal, Arcane Zeal, Vow of Silence..which is unusable pretty much)
The original crappy iteration:
D/Mo
10+1+1 Mysticism (every 3 ranks)
11+1 Earth prayers
10 Protection Prayers
1 Healing Prayers
armor: survivor, vitae, vigor, minor mysticism, minor earth prayers
weapon :+20% enchanting of your choice (had mallyx's savagery left over from melee build, but ideally +30HP staff of enchanting...)
1 Arcane Zeal
2 Faithful Intervention (to power Zeal)
3 Vital Boon / Vital blessing (had to micro boon, so blessing could have been better)
4 Imbue Health (massive heal)
5 Protective Spirit
6 Mystic regeneration
7 Shield of Absorption
8 Aegis
To be tested:
D/Mo bonds
12+1+1 Mysticism (every 3 ranks)
12 Protection Prayers
armor: survivor, vitae, vigor, minor mysticism, minor earth prayers
weapon :+20% enchanting staff
1 Arcane Zeal
2 Balthazar's Spirit
3 Vital blessing
4 Purifying Veil / Life Attunement ( to power zeal)
5 Imbue Health (massive heal)
6 Life Bond
7 Shield of Absorption
8 Aegis
Mystic Healing doesn't heal for enough at 12 wind prayers, but it's cheap and spammy (2 recharge). There's not enough enchantments to match divine healing on a monk, so it's not that great.
A replacement for monks, no. It's not better than D/N orders either. I just want to see if there's a better option for powering Imbue Health spam that doesn't involve devoting a bar to it.
All in all Arcane zeal isn't all that great when you can just run a zealous scythe and an IAS.
The bar was pretty much the opposite of D/N orders, since it was defense, rather offense.
Re: Imbue health
The skill on its own isn't all that great unless you pump mysticism up. At 9 mysticism it heals for 32% of max health (anywhere from 170 to 200HP), which is not bad (basically Gift of Health at 10 with divine favor bonus). Anything lower, like 6 mysticism and you have 23% which is basically sub-orison level healing (50-60ish health total).
The original crappy iteration:
D/Mo
10+1+1 Mysticism (every 3 ranks)
11+1 Earth prayers
10 Protection Prayers
1 Healing Prayers
armor: survivor, vitae, vigor, minor mysticism, minor earth prayers
weapon :+20% enchanting of your choice (had mallyx's savagery left over from melee build, but ideally +30HP staff of enchanting...)
1 Arcane Zeal
2 Faithful Intervention (to power Zeal)
3 Vital Boon / Vital blessing (had to micro boon, so blessing could have been better)
4 Imbue Health (massive heal)
5 Protective Spirit
6 Mystic regeneration
7 Shield of Absorption
8 Aegis
To be tested:
D/Mo bonds
12+1+1 Mysticism (every 3 ranks)
12 Protection Prayers
armor: survivor, vitae, vigor, minor mysticism, minor earth prayers
weapon :+20% enchanting staff
1 Arcane Zeal
2 Balthazar's Spirit
3 Vital blessing
4 Purifying Veil / Life Attunement ( to power zeal)
5 Imbue Health (massive heal)
6 Life Bond
7 Shield of Absorption
8 Aegis
Mystic Healing doesn't heal for enough at 12 wind prayers, but it's cheap and spammy (2 recharge). There's not enough enchantments to match divine healing on a monk, so it's not that great.
A replacement for monks, no. It's not better than D/N orders either. I just want to see if there's a better option for powering Imbue Health spam that doesn't involve devoting a bar to it.
All in all Arcane zeal isn't all that great when you can just run a zealous scythe and an IAS.
The bar was pretty much the opposite of D/N orders, since it was defense, rather offense.
Re: Imbue health
The skill on its own isn't all that great unless you pump mysticism up. At 9 mysticism it heals for 32% of max health (anywhere from 170 to 200HP), which is not bad (basically Gift of Health at 10 with divine favor bonus). Anything lower, like 6 mysticism and you have 23% which is basically sub-orison level healing (50-60ish health total).
paddymew
It's very rare to ever see a +30hp scythe of +20% enchanting, since both effects are suffix bonuses. Personally, I'm wondering if it's too slow, when the e-management requires you to spam enchantments.
Luminarus
FoxBat
Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
Never said it was awesome, just wondering if there's any viable hero builds other than D/N orders.
Throw imbue health on an SoS or smiter bar? :/
Xenomortis
1st bar:
The heal is overkill and the only other things you bring to the table are Aegis and Prot Spirit.
2nd bar:
The heal is overkill and the only good thing you bring to the table is Aegis.
I would never look at Imbue Health - it's in a line only Dervs can use, that line doesn't really have anything good in it and you need to spec heavily into it for it to be worthwhile, Dervish energy management isn't great and almost always necessitates your elite, the skill costs 10 energy and has a 10 second cooldown.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
The heal is overkill and the only other things you bring to the table are Aegis and Prot Spirit.
2nd bar:
The heal is overkill and the only good thing you bring to the table is Aegis.
I would never look at Imbue Health - it's in a line only Dervs can use, that line doesn't really have anything good in it and you need to spec heavily into it for it to be worthwhile, Dervish energy management isn't great and almost always necessitates your elite, the skill costs 10 energy and has a 10 second cooldown.
Quote:
Throw imbue health on an SoS or smiter bar? :/
And get a 25 heal for 10 energy?
LifeInfusion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenomortis
I would never look at Imbue Health - it's in a line only Dervs can use, that line doesn't really have anything good in it and you need to spec heavily into it for it to be worthwhile, Dervish energy management isn't great and almost always necessitates your elite, the skill costs 10 energy and has a 10 second cooldown.
thanks for the insight.
Xenomortis
FoxBat
Quote:
Once you get away from arcane zeal you don't need excess maintained enchants anymore. I'd think of this:
smite hex
smite condition
Strength of Honor
castigation signet
RoJ
imbue health
vital boon
optional
Doesn't really abuse dervish much, but it should work.
You might consider spear or barrage type builds, at least you could get heart of fury out of your mysticism investment then.
-Makai-
I ran a Dervish healer build in JQ for a few months. Keep in mind that I stopped playing JQ a week or two before the Mesmer update, so your mileage may vary.
12 + 1 + 2 Mysticism
12 Protection Prayers
Life Sheath
Guardian
Shield of Absorption
Shielding Hands
Watchful Intervention
Imbue Health
Meditation
Pious Haste
I know everyone will hate this, but give it a shot. No one expects a Dervish healer and stupid players/bots will waste their resources on you; I can't count the number of times I stood my ground against four or five enemies. So long as you keep cycling your cheap enchantments, you're practically invincible and will not run out of energy (not sure if the Mesmer update made enchantment removal more popular, though, so watch out). Watchful and Imbue are great spike heals to use on carriers and allies that need a hand and Meditation is used in a pinch between cycles. Finally, Pious Haste is a fairly good IMS and can be swapped with Signet of Pious Restraint--Life Sheath plus the aforementioned signet has the potential to permanently cripple an enemy.
12 + 1 + 2 Mysticism
12 Protection Prayers
Life Sheath
Guardian
Shield of Absorption
Shielding Hands
Watchful Intervention
Imbue Health
Meditation
Pious Haste
I know everyone will hate this, but give it a shot. No one expects a Dervish healer and stupid players/bots will waste their resources on you; I can't count the number of times I stood my ground against four or five enemies. So long as you keep cycling your cheap enchantments, you're practically invincible and will not run out of energy (not sure if the Mesmer update made enchantment removal more popular, though, so watch out). Watchful and Imbue are great spike heals to use on carriers and allies that need a hand and Meditation is used in a pinch between cycles. Finally, Pious Haste is a fairly good IMS and can be swapped with Signet of Pious Restraint--Life Sheath plus the aforementioned signet has the potential to permanently cripple an enemy.