Wintersday Workshop 2010

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

R/

Good Luck in your exam Frustration

Shewmake

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alabama

Mo/D

@Arya: 1 hour? O.o That'd take me half a day...and it wouldn't even look that great compared to yours.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Arya, that is awesome!

And haha, Charlie, I still haven't started. I really should get moving on that already...

Free Hairnet

Free Hairnet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2010

R/Mo

Hello!
Name: Free Hairnet
Idea for entry: EotN heroes in Wintersday garb
genre of art: digital illustration

Progress gallery: http://sybya.deviantart.com/gallery/27502035

Having never done one of these contests, I'm pretty excited.

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

R/

wow, arya that looks freaking amazing! I love the marvel-comic style of your characters (if that is your influence. i used a marvel comics book to help me learn anatomy and it looks ALOT like the style). It looks like your art should explode into a bright light, but you painted right before it could.

YAEY STORIES

And for the bears; do you mean in comparison to my digital sketch? Because, funny you say that, I actuallyenlarged it (accidentally) when i drew it on the bristol board, so the bears and the chest are almost half the bristol board in size.

I haven't worked on my piece this week and probably can't until sunday onwards because I've had somethings thrown my way this week. For somereason, our math teacher wants to make class shirts. She's kind of crazy, but in an awesome way. One of our units (dont remember what its called... it was a part of factoring) she would shout "psy-psy" whenever she could cancel out fractions.
So i figured well... why not. My design for the shirt was originally a Mewtwo with an energy ball with Psy Psy (psychic-->Psy) beside him but my friend and I realized;
psyduck. so i have to recreate my design tonight and colour it (assuming it gets voted by the class)


Durrdurr i forgot the advice half!
Nemesis: Welcome! I love the melandru shrine! the detail/shading in the bark is just the way I like it ^^
Hairnet: BAHAH, i love ogden's face! Great work so far xD
Arya: You already get abovelove (that just sounds wrong...) so i figured id ask; when you paint I assume you sketch on a new layer. What do you do when you start blocking in the colour? I find that's the hardest part, for me, of digital painting. Its like that little hurdle i dont want to jump over so i just stand infront of it.

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

R/

nemesis: q.q that looks so grand. I love all the little knots and dimples in the bark, it really adds to the realism. I also really like that cloth and the post! The folds in the cloth look so natural and free :3
My only quirp is that the snow on the shrine looks like shredded fabric. Perhaps making it more rounded at the bottom could help? or if its an icicle-type effect really push the contrast. Right now it looks like someone left their armor to dry and a large cat came by and used it to sharpen his claws :P (but... in a good way? it still looks really nice D

what do you use to get such a good quality image? It can't be a scanner, because pencil + scanner = tehsaddest of all the orphans.

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

The Mists

Guild Leader of: More than Seven Deadly Sins [Sins]

Rt/

Thanks so much, it's good to hear that because I was a bit skeptical on whether or not the bark and the cloth were turning out "realistic" today. So that gives me a sigh of relief haha.
Oh yeah, I see your point. It does kind of look rather odd now that you mention it... I guess that I was starting out with the snow just kind of being on the branches, then I wanted there to be icicles hanging from the branches. Erm, I don't know how I would really define the icicles any more though since they are so small, but I think that if I just rounded them off it would look really weird too. I'll experiment with it later though and see what I come up with. I kind of like it though. Hmm, we'll see.

Bah the quality really isn't that great. I do use a scanner, not a high-end one either haha. Yes, I am very familiar with my drawings being totally annihilated by my scanner, so I'm not sure. Maybe I just got lucky this time and my scanner decided to scan nicely for once? >.>

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

R/

hm, strange about the scanner. It really doesn't look like scanned-quality. For the snow/icicles, even though they're still small you could still emphasise the crystal effect on it. Even though thats not very clear...

You know how when you look at a crystal, one side is obviously recieving light and one is obviously shadow, but there are still squares/shapes of darker colour in the light side and vice versa? You could try something like that.

Did that make anysense at all? I could perhaps find a picture to aide the description if its too confusing to decode.

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

The Mists

Guild Leader of: More than Seven Deadly Sins [Sins]

Rt/

*Shrug*

And yeah I know what you mean, that will definitely be challenge with how small they are, but I could try to maybe shade them a tad more than I have. Now that we're talking about this ice, I want to know, the water that Melandru is pouring looks frozen, right? I may have to emphasize a bit more on the shading on that too... Hrmm *stares down drawing* I'll figure something out. And nah it's not confusing, just going to be difficult to draw haha.

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

The Mists

Guild Leader of: More than Seven Deadly Sins [Sins]

Rt/

Alright good, just making sure. Oh yeah of course, it would be really odd if I made it look different than the other ice.
Thank you so much for your feedback, it is greatly appreciated!

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

@AryaBladedancer: I really like what you're making! It looks awesome and I like your style! I think the upper body seems to stretch a bit too much, but I assume it's a part of the style. Love the hips on Dwayna!

And thank you for your kind words! I thought it would be fun to have her little minions (they are bone fiends) play in the snow. The character isn't very playful, but she's a bit weak for her pet monsters. She thinks of the bone fiends as cute pets and can't help but to smirk at their play. About the "empty" space; I like to have it there to get some space into the scenery. For me, the composition doesn't get to crammed. She could sit farther away from the bone fiends as it suits her personality to sit back and observe. But I thought it was fine that way.

Fingers crossed so that the walk-through tutorial will turn out nicely, and be entertaining! Never made anything like it before. You'll all get to see how I think when I drew everything and why every little thing is the way it is ^^

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2010

@frost - looks great so far! I hope you get your Christmas scanner It's so annoying when no one can see the detail you put in >_< just because of scanner/picture quality.

@Arya - omg, how did that take you only an hour to do?! That looks amazing so far!

@Nemesis - your pic looks really great so far You did amazing shading on that tree!

@Pery - <hands over aspirin and a bag of ice> Hope your thumb feels better soon!

@Aero - thanks glad to hear that!

@Hairnet - ooh, looks good so far!

My update: with all the stuff I need to do in December, I'm not sure if I'll be able to finish my story in time with images and stuff. I'm thinking I'll cut the story in half and post the other half over time as I finish in another thread. The first half is stand-alone, but one of the plot lines wouldn't be finished until the second half. Guess I'll see how it goes...

frostkisses

frostkisses

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wisconsin

Cerberus Guardians of the [GATE]

E/

Couple of great new entries! I get so giddy when I get to see all the artwork going on ^^
On my own progress....made alot(lol) tonight... spent the last two hrs coloring and I think my hand just might fall off.
Pery, I added in some highlights like you mentioned and I'm very happy with the way its turning out. I'll post a pic tomorrow. Time for me to get to bed..it's 11pm and I have to be up at 3am for work! YAY! (/end sarcasm).

Perynne

Perynne

Site Contributor

Join Date: Oct 2006

Finland

Runners of the Rose [RR]

R/

@Thistle: Thanks! My thumb is a bit better today, I think I can manage drawing if I don't press on the pen too hard.
About your prologue, it's a very interesting read! Can't wait to read the full thing. There are a couple small grammar mistakes (such as it should be "felt like" instead of "felt that" in the first paragraph, and missing the "a" in "the sharp crack of a slap"), but they can be fixed for the final version. I offer to do proofreading, if you'd like.

@frostkisses: Eeep. Have a good day at work! Looking forward to seeing how your entry looks now.

@GeminiJuSa: Looking forward to seeing the "making of" tutorial. I love watching other people's drawing process, and your style is so unique that it'll be fun to follow.

@Nemesis: Perhaps do a bit of stronger shading between the icicle and the snow? Just to separate the two easier. Or some kind of icicle texture (if you look at one closer, you can see it has sort of "rings" around it, and it's very bumpy). And depending on the background the icicles could be drawn darker. If the background is dark, some of that darkness would show up through the icicle, but wouldn't touch the snow.
Looking good so far though. I love the frozen waterfall and the texture in the tree bark.

@Death by an Arrow: Awwww, you sound like you have a fun class. We never had t-shirts. And a teacher making funny noises, that's always awesome.

@Free Hairnet: Hello, and welcome! Glad to see another new face joining us. Your start looks awesome, I love how much expression they've all got. And hehe, Pyre reminded me of some kind of horned devil at first... until I remembered that yes, he IS that big. XD

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2010

aww, thanks Pery I actually reread the prologue and there are TONS of grammar/comma mistakes that made me grimace. I wrote that on the bus and posted it immediately once I got home before dinner without proofing, so it's sloppy D: I made a huge mistake, too, in the last sentence that won't be there in the final copy (revealed it actually was a memory and not a dream). Glad your thumb is better, too

AryaBladedancer

AryaBladedancer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

San Francisco, CA

Order of Auralus

W/Mo

I have some small updates. I started adding in some color to the characters after looking through the suggestions and I'm at a bit of a stuck point. I can't decide if I want to go with a blue Dwayna like the Avatar of Dwayna http://images.wikia.com/gw/images/8/...oncept_art.jpg or purple and gold as the concept art on the wiki shows http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6...1e9bae9ny2.jpg. I sort of feel like the gold and purple looks a little too much like Lyssa, which may be why the avatar was changed to blue and silver, but I wasn't sure if the blue and silver was too subtle still. Maybe giving her the golden magic but keeping her blue?





Nemesis: Yay! So glad you came to the workshop. I really think that the frozen snow looks great on the top branches and the waterfalls look pretty good too! Maybe if you added a few drips of snow on melandru herself, like frozen water dripping from her wings or elbow area. It's coming along really great though! I didn't get the ripped cloth thing that Death said initially but I do see where he's coming from. I think that darkening the bark at the end and leaving the snow white will help with that. Right now everything is still pretty light but I imagine you'll change that towards the end.

Perynne: Thank you for the comments and the feedback, I took it into consideration and I agree that having some color really helps make the characters feel more like themselves instead of just the flat blue monotone coloring.

Tommy's: hehe, thank you, I agree that having the colors subtle will be stronger. And I appreciate the feedback, that's what the workshop is for yeah?

Aeronwen: Ah, sorry I should have been more clear. hehe. I meant I entered the Halloween workshop too late to start a progress gallery. I had already finished my submission by the time i Learned about the workshop so I only had 1-2 screenshots from the creation process. I still had a blast but I'm glad that this time I can participate more in the feedback and discussion area.

Free Hairnet: I LOVE your little sketch style, very cute even in stick form! I really love the style that you have going on here and I love that you're representing lots of different classes. I know these are just WIP shots, but I'd like to see the final image a bit bigger if possible. It's a little on the small side. Looking really good though!

DeathByAnArrow: Hehe, well, I could go on for paragraphs about painting methods, haha. To summarize, yes, I paint on multiple layers. I usually start with 3-5 and every time I do something new I do it on a new layer so I can see how it works without messing up my other stuff. I usually have a flat color canvas on the bottom, a sketch layer set to multiply on top, and in the middle I put the 'base' colors, which is what I assume you mean by blocking in color. I paint in the big basic colors beneath the sketch keeping the sketch layer on multiply so it's nice and dark. Then as I start shading and adding more detail I'll start new layers over the sketches and start covering up the line work. Hope that makes sense.

And thank you everyone for the comments!

Perynne

Perynne

Site Contributor

Join Date: Oct 2006

Finland

Runners of the Rose [RR]

R/

Wow, I kind of like both. But yes, I think for the sake of clarity, you should have Dwayna blue and perhaps have her cast golden magic. You could also think about having her headdress and the dress decorations in a yellowish hue, and then the rest as blue.
Purple Dwayna looks awesome, but like you pointed out, it's a bit too close to Lyssa...

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Nemesis-of-the-Gods

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

The Mists

Guild Leader of: More than Seven Deadly Sins [Sins]

Rt/

@Thistle Xandra: Thank you very much =]

@Perynne: Yeah I was thinking about making the edges more bumpy since icicles are an accumulation of frozen over drips; but like I said I am still torn about how small they really are and I am limited to the amount of detail that I can put into them but I can always try. Yeah I get what you are saying there; thank you ^^

@AryaBladedancer: Thanks, well everyone views art differently. I didn't see it at first either but I am open to everyone's viewpoint. Glad to hear your opinion
Oh hmm, I could probably add some drips from her left wing or something, I don't want to cover her up too much. Yeah that's a good idea to darken the areas around the snow. I was actually thinking to myself that they blended in a bit much; but then again I am not near being done haha. Oh yeah, it's still considered a sketch by my standards, I usually add more contrast toward completion of my image, just because you have to erase pencil and the darker that it is the harder it is to erase and more that it shows up, so I like to be careful. It's totally different from digital work.

As for YOUR image, it looks absolutely stunning!! I am really loving how it's coming along! I really believe that the blue/silver Dwayna would be best to use not only because it's the one that made it in the game but like you mentioned; as cool as purple/gold Dwayna looks, I do believe that it can and will get confused as Lyssa too often. Blue/silver Dwayna still has hints of gold on her armor though, so you can always play around with that. I am not really a color person, but I do think that it may look a tad bit odd having the gold magic, I don't know why. I like the blue-ish maybe even a whiter magic for Dwayna, with maybe like gold tints illuminating it. *shrugs* Just throwing out random thoughts. I really do like how Grenth's greens look though, they're very nice. I guess the only thing that has me torn about the whole picture is that while I do love the color-coding, I think that making the 'magics' like, green and golden, doesn't really make me think "Snowball fight" it makes me think "magic fight" so perhaps leave the circled area in their hands white and have their assigned colors drifting off of the snowball like a magical trail. Just a suggestion. One last thing, I LOVE that burst effect between the two, that very faint but still noticeable white burst adds a touch more action and motion to the picture, so definitely stick with that; I really like it.
Can't wait to see more! ^^

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

Looking great Arya, but I'd go for the blue one. Otherone reminds me of Varesh and Lyssa too much. Though perhabs you can put some purple in some places of the blue version, it could help your piece look more vivid, then it already is

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

R/

Welcome Hairnet, that’s really cute. I love their expressions.

Nemesis, wow I really like what you are doing. I think the bark looks great.

Arya, I like the top one best. I like both chars colouring better in the top pic.

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

E/

-officially lazied out- ~__~"

ierno if I'm going to finish my piece or not xD

....I'm seriously loving these wips @ O@

Arya : I'd leave her blue since purple is more of a ..Lyssa colour? xD

frostkisses

frostkisses

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wisconsin

Cerberus Guardians of the [GATE]

E/

nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
Marsh you have to!! *cries and tugs on marsh's pant leg* Q.Q

@arya- to be honest i'm liking the blue/silver more anyway, not just because its a "dwayna color" but because its less overwhelming to me than the gold is. it looks amazing thus far. cant wait to see it finished.

@nemesis- took a look at your DA gallery, really neat stuff. i love just pencil drawings. your entry so far looks great your shading is very good. im envious of your scanner lol, i wish mine looked half as good after the scan. but i definately hear you...scanners rape artwork

@hairnet- welcome to nolani! very cute so far. im a sucker for chibi-esque drawings

My update:


I took the picture kinda crooked so it looks a bit distorted, sorry bout that
Next up is to tackle the headress and the wing thing on her armor...kind of dreading it...coloring with yellows kills my eyes. Trying to decide what to do with the bit of white space behind Dwayna on either side. I think if I were to color it in it would be way too overwhelming to the rest of the piece, but I dont really think I want it white.. May end up seeing if I can photoshop a background in. I know you guys cant see the white spots behind her yet so I guess this might be a bit of a rhetorical statement lol. But I'll be revealing that as soon as I'm sure its a decent sketch.

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

None

R/

I'm actually considering dropping out aswell..
I have an awesome idea in my head. But I really don't have the funds or people to make it all happen. :/

Chicken of the Seas

Chicken of the Seas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

California, USA

Vulpes Velox [Fox]

Me/

I'm trying to get mine together but this month is going to be soooooo busy! Maybe I'll try to make the cover today. Mainly I'm waiting for towns to be decorated so I can take some screenies...

Also, I'm going to need characters in my little book (its probably going to be photoshopped partially and then printed out) so I may need to take a couple of screens of whoever can lend a hand. =P I'll probably just add you to friends and then ask when I see you online.

Hopefully I'll have the time to at least try to submit something!

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

R/

Hydralisk, is it worth sharing your idea to see whether anyone can help? I would be happy to do anything I could.

InfestedHydralisk

InfestedHydralisk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Netherlands

None

R/

Well, I was going to be needing people who have Black Dyed Monument Armor (to represent the Vanguard).
And I cannot afford the Armor for myself since I don't really play GW anymore. But even if I could that would mean that I only have 1 character.

Chicken of the Seas

Chicken of the Seas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

California, USA

Vulpes Velox [Fox]

Me/

I have monument armor. Does it matter which profession? If needed I could always dye it black.

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

@Perynne: Funy enough, making the vid showing how I did it could use it's own progress diary haha! So much work :P

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

And a "teaser" for what I'm doing;



Been working on it for 5 hours today XD Plus additional 2h from before :P

frostkisses

frostkisses

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wisconsin

Cerberus Guardians of the [GATE]

E/

@ shew- yeah sorry bout that.. lol im holding the paper while taking a pic. i'll take a better picture tomorrow. thanks for the compliment i'm glad you're entering this year, you have such a talent!

Oh_Frustration

Oh_Frustration

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Finland, [Outi] HQ

Outin Omat [Outi]

Rt/

Gemini; Whoa, nice lineart!

Arya; I'd leave the "metallic" parts golden/yellow, and the rest blue. Maybe golden magic.

Shadow Sin

Shadow Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Philippines

[Glad]

Mo/

Name: Silveas
Idea for entry: Norn, Asura, Humans, Oh my!
genre of art: Literature