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So... how does it work? Is it a reliable source?
If so, it might be a good idea to popularise it.
gwEstimator
drkn
Arduin
Let's check it out then. Supposedly AM1 is recorded.
Yup, it's in real time. Nice site.
Very helpful for a fast pricecheck as well. Thanks for the link.
Yup, it's in real time. Nice site.
Very helpful for a fast pricecheck as well. Thanks for the link.
Waldir
Looks legitimate, could be useful
Marco_vd
Nice link, it could be useful
Milennin
Yup, looks very useful. Seeing my own "WTB Superior Vigor" from like a few hours ago in it.xD
King Size
Looks nice but do they have an agreement with Anet or something? How do they do this?
Kayn
Wow, this is great. Will definitely be using this. Thanks!
ACWhammy
Wow unreal! Thanks
Warvic
This is amazing! tyvm
Gennadios
Recognized one of the spams for an Unded Varesh from a few days ago, was being sold alongside a dredge and I bought it.
Seems pretty legitimate. LOVE this.
Seems pretty legitimate. LOVE this.
Arduin
It's nice to see a certain buyer lowering his price with 5k every minute 
FoxBat
There is some kind of botting involved in this for sure, whether packet sniffing, custom client, or just screenshots being taken at regular intervals, analyzed and OCR'd. Well I guess that should be obvious to most of you, but I thought I'd make it clear for the rest.
Gennadios
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There is some kind of botting involved in this for sure, whether packet sniffing, custom client, or just screenshots being taken at regular intervals, analyzed and OCR'd. Well I guess that should be obvious to most of you, but I thought I'd make it clear for the rest.
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drkn
@FoxBat
While i have a few ideas how it might work, i'm not certain on any - so if someone possesses actual knowledge behind it and is even able to recreate it, please enlighten me
Even though it might breach EULA somehow, i hope ANet won't erase it from existence, as it's really handy thing and kudos to the guy who made it. As long as monitoring $ chat in Kamadan is all this script/bot/whatever does, it's harmless and useful.
On a side note, i think the thread might get cleaned up a bit, get OP a tad edited and be moved to PC subforum every moment - if it really works, as i haven't really processed any research on it yet (aka: haven't even bothered to check if it works
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E: it's a great way to find someone to buy a rare item from, or sell some nice stuff to someone without shouting for hours. Just checked, totally randomly, 'cockatrice' in that database. Two newest shouts:
Despite them being a month after each other, it looks funny.
While i have a few ideas how it might work, i'm not certain on any - so if someone possesses actual knowledge behind it and is even able to recreate it, please enlighten me
Even though it might breach EULA somehow, i hope ANet won't erase it from existence, as it's really handy thing and kudos to the guy who made it. As long as monitoring $ chat in Kamadan is all this script/bot/whatever does, it's harmless and useful.
On a side note, i think the thread might get cleaned up a bit, get OP a tad edited and be moved to PC subforum every moment - if it really works, as i haven't really processed any research on it yet (aka: haven't even bothered to check if it works
).E: it's a great way to find someone to buy a rare item from, or sell some nice stuff to someone without shouting for hours. Just checked, totally randomly, 'cockatrice' in that database. Two newest shouts:
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(11/11/2010 11:28:06) Kobrakai Martyr : WTS Q9 20/10 COCKATRICE EARTH STAFF PM (19/10/2010 14:23:30) X Lord Of The War X : WTB[Cockatrice r9 Earth Staff][PM]!!! |
Chrisworld
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There is some kind of botting involved in this for sure, whether packet sniffing, custom client, or just screenshots being taken at regular intervals, analyzed and OCR'd. Well I guess that should be obvious to most of you, but I thought I'd make it clear for the rest.
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drkn
BTW, anyone feels like checking if this works and ain't a malware?
Cool Name
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BTW, anyone feels like checking if this works and ain't a malware?
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Smarty
It's a very nice idea but I don't like that the character names are included - way to keep track of all those accounts with high value items on them! Removing all characters between $ and the first : would sit a lot better with me. (Yes I know that the info could be obtained quite easily from in game but it still seems wrong to record it and publicise it like this.)
drkn
@Smarty:
Downside - if someone happens to get your e-mail and decides to bruteforce your account, he might - just might - get your character name out of that database; how he would connect the e-mail and the character, just from the database, assuming he got your e-mail somehow, is beyond me.
Upside - one can search the database for someone who spammed WTS/WTB XYZ recently and then pm him in game to buy/sell XYZ much faster and more conveniently.
Downside - if someone happens to get your e-mail and decides to bruteforce your account, he might - just might - get your character name out of that database; how he would connect the e-mail and the character, just from the database, assuming he got your e-mail somehow, is beyond me.
Upside - one can search the database for someone who spammed WTS/WTB XYZ recently and then pm him in game to buy/sell XYZ much faster and more conveniently.
Star_Jewel
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It's a very nice idea but I don't like that the character names are included - way to keep track of all those accounts with high value items on them! Removing all characters between $ and the first : would sit a lot better with me. (Yes I know that the info could be obtained quite easily from in game but it still seems wrong to record it and publicise it like this.)
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However, what makes this info dangerous in the hands of hackers/scammers is what makes it useful to the honest people wanting to make a fair trade -- you don't have to be in the same district with someone at the moment they are. You could whisper them later and see if the item is still available. On the other hand, that's what forum trade is for. But since no other character/account/player information is made available, I'm not sure what a hacker/scammer could really benefit from it that they couldn't benefit from just by watching the trade-spam in-game. Except for the ability to compile/manipulate the info.
Ehh, like I said, I'm on the fence.
Rafiftw
It's a matter of time till anet will contact the site owner.
drkn
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Moreso, if the site got popularised and not taken down by ANet, it advertises the sellers much more than spamming in Kama + having an active sell thread here, so it's actually a win situation for them.
Smarty
Yeah I know, logically there's no link between character name and account info in the game itself so it doesn't really matter... it just seems wrong to have it recorded like that, for no real reason I can put my finger on. Anyways, if the software's clean it's a v fast one-stop-shop to find out an up-to-date price for things at long last, so I hope ANet check it out and approve it.
Snograt
It's not software per se - to the end user it's just a website.
The owners of the site are breaking all kinds of copyright by making the site but you aren't by using it.
The owners of the site are breaking all kinds of copyright by making the site but you aren't by using it.
Scoot
Excellent site.
Raven Wing
I like the idea, easily accessible PC. But I'm also sure the creator breaks the EULA.
Regular users arent breaking any rules by using such a site, since it doesnt manipulate or otherwise interfere with their gw client or the traffic between that player and anet servers.
I would like to see:
1. Names edited out
2. Approval by anet so the creator of it doesnt get banned for botting or whatever.
Another thing, is that it is possible to manipulate. I could regularly go on various chars and post WTB Bow of the hierophant 55 e and other differently worded posts with prices in that range with different chars and thus make believe its worth that hoping to get it sold at that price. (while its worth 30e or less)
Regular users arent breaking any rules by using such a site, since it doesnt manipulate or otherwise interfere with their gw client or the traffic between that player and anet servers.
I would like to see:
1. Names edited out
2. Approval by anet so the creator of it doesnt get banned for botting or whatever.
Another thing, is that it is possible to manipulate. I could regularly go on various chars and post WTB Bow of the hierophant 55 e and other differently worded posts with prices in that range with different chars and thus make believe its worth that hoping to get it sold at that price. (while its worth 30e or less)
Waldir
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I like the idea, easily accessible PC. But I'm also sure the creator breaks the EULA.
Regular users arent breaking any rules by using such a site, since it doesnt manipulate or otherwise interfere with their gw client or the traffic between that player and anet servers. I would like to see: 1. Names edited out 2. Approval by anet so the creator of it doesnt get banned for botting or whatever. Another thing, is that it is possible to manipulate. I could regularly go on various chars and post WTB Bow of the hierophant 55 e and other differently worded posts with prices in that range with different chars and thus make believe its worth that hoping to get it sold at that price. (while its worth 30e or less) |
Warvic
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It's a very nice idea but I don't like that the character names are included - way to keep track of all those accounts with high value items on them! Removing all characters between $ and the first : would sit a lot better with me. (Yes I know that the info could be obtained quite easily from in game but it still seems wrong to record it and publicise it like this.)
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The only reason it's not allowed on this forums is because u can link ign's to guru accounts. So you and others are horribly over-reacting.
CalinCalin
Hey :
-IG name, can be crypted.
-the site owner is not, and was never banned for botting or smthg.
-In french comunity, the CM know this site and wait for give his opinion. (i think)
Btw u can't get banned for use this site, but the owner .... lets see.. (this site is up since ~ 2months or more)
I think this is a good idea, and it can only give good things to the community, im always sepaking with the creator and we had already speakd about the In game name problem, i think if community don't wanna see their Name on his site, he will crypt it.
-IG name, can be crypted.
-the site owner is not, and was never banned for botting or smthg.
-In french comunity, the CM know this site and wait for give his opinion. (i think)
Btw u can't get banned for use this site, but the owner .... lets see.. (this site is up since ~ 2months or more)
I think this is a good idea, and it can only give good things to the community, im always sepaking with the creator and we had already speakd about the In game name problem, i think if community don't wanna see their Name on his site, he will crypt it.
drkn
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It's a useful way for the seller to get a wider audience of possible buyers, while NOT giving out anything to hijack his account, since everyone can see your char's name in game, it doesn't come with your e-mail address attached.
CalinCalin
i agree with you, i just wanna say itz possible ...
if someone don't want to see their name on a website, they have the right, taht's all
if someone don't want to see their name on a website, they have the right, taht's all
Warvic
Oh pls i hope they don't do that. I wanted to buy some items, and found enough sellers in no time! This is a superb website I really love it.
I really love it.
Spookii
Holy crap. o_O I love you.
yitjuan
nice stuff. both for buyers (LF seller) and sellers (LF buyer) ...
Quaker
It may be interesting to see how many people posting in this thread start an "I was hacked!" thread in the coming months.
Seriously, I would want to have this checked out before I even click the link.
Seriously, I would want to have this checked out before I even click the link.
CalinCalin
Hacked by a Search Engine !
AL AGAINST GOOGLE TAYOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo..
seriously, i really don't know how he can hack you with that
( and what hacker give his In Game Name ?) itz Argos ~ lol.
AL AGAINST GOOGLE TAYOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo..
seriously, i really don't know how he can hack you with that
( and what hacker give his In Game Name ?) itz Argos ~ lol.
drkn
There's no way you can get hacked by this site, unless it silently installs some kind of keylogger on your machine, but i haven't noticed anything of that kind. And if you kind that knowing one's in-game name is enough to hack him... just take a look at Ventari's.
Leon X
Quaker, just don't answer to strangers and you'll be safe
This site really usefull though
This site really usefull though
Darcy
Just don't use it to give pricing in PC forum please. Let's keep in mind that asking price is not proof of value.
Chthon
I do wish they'd anonymize the character names so that it ceases being a convenient source for brute force account theft...