Jadeite Summoning Stone
Asrai
Took a trip to the deep and saw vendor selling Jadeite Summoning Stones... Is this actually useful ?
P_A_A
It's as useful as the rest of the stones.
Carboplatin
Gaki's are the only useful ones.
RedDog91
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Gaki's are the only useful ones.
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the siege turtle can unleash all hell in dungeons heavily populated by ranged enemies
Captain Bulldozer
Some of the summoning stones are definitely worth using. I wouldn't say they are vital or anything, but they are a little more useful in general than minions or pets, except for the fact that you can only have 1 at a time.
Some of the more useful are:
Siege Turtles
Juggernaught (good for caster teams anyway)
Oni
Dream Rider
Most of the Celstials in my experience
Gaki (WTB pants for it though)
White Rabbit (hard to get)
Black Beast of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh (also hard to get)
Still, the hour long summoning sickness tends to make these stones not great. It would have been nicer if they got rid of the summoning sickness and just kept the one at a time rule. Doesn't seem like that would be OP that way, but not my call.
Some of the more useful are:
Siege Turtles
Juggernaught (good for caster teams anyway)
Oni
Dream Rider
Most of the Celstials in my experience
Gaki (WTB pants for it though)
White Rabbit (hard to get)
Black Beast of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh (also hard to get)
Still, the hour long summoning sickness tends to make these stones not great. It would have been nicer if they got rid of the summoning sickness and just kept the one at a time rule. Doesn't seem like that would be OP that way, but not my call.
Skye Marin
Gaki is nice for support healing, but I find it strips my splinter weapon a bit more than I'd like.
I really like the Celestials. Looking forward to stocking up another couple dozen.
I really like the Celestials. Looking forward to stocking up another couple dozen.
dasmitchies
Think of summoning stones as a free skill slot. Just remember you have no control over them. I agree to tone down the summoning sickness.
gremlin
Tend to agree about the summoning sickness.
Not a problem with more than one player as they can keep one summon up all the time.
Solo player has one an hour seems a little unfair as they are a great way of giving you an edge when you mess up or if a player disconnects mid mission.
Summoning stones are not essential but they add a little fun.
Not a problem with more than one player as they can keep one summon up all the time.
Solo player has one an hour seems a little unfair as they are a great way of giving you an edge when you mess up or if a player disconnects mid mission.
Summoning stones are not essential but they add a little fun.
Darcy
Jadeite SS gives you a siege turtle, which is one of the great ones.
Gennadios
I'd love to hear somebody's reasoning for Oni being a useful summon. I rolled one out of a mysterious stone in FoW the other night in the middle of the forest and it didn't survive one encounter.
Anduin
Don't forget the merchant summoning stone. Always great for those times when you get loaded down with a ton of crap to sell during a dungeon/long set of vanquishing.
Verene
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Siege Turtle is awesome in terms of power, but I tend to get annoyed at how big it is, I have to zoom all the way out to be able to really see what's going on because it blocks so much of the screen.
Ailina
The Frosty Summoning Stone doesn't get enough respect.
It can keep up daze, which is probably (one of) the most useful condition(s), on a whole bunch of enemies for a long time.
Go Snowman!
It can keep up daze, which is probably (one of) the most useful condition(s), on a whole bunch of enemies for a long time.
Go Snowman!
Captain Bulldozer
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I'd love to hear somebody's reasoning for Oni being a useful summon. I rolled one out of a mysterious stone in FoW the other night in the middle of the forest and it didn't survive one encounter.
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2 self heals (neither are great), 100% chance to double strike in melee, causes bleeding (good for teams requiring a condition...like discord for example), a KD skill, and a snare (short duration though). That's a lot of stuff for one summons. What it definitely lacks is blocking, but otherwise has a nice array of abilities. When I've used summoning stones in HM, the oni is one of the ones that tends to survive a bit longer than average... just my experience though. I doubt I would go to any special trouble to get an oni stone... but since they come from mysterious stones and you get them from the deep, they're not so hard to get. I personally would much rather see an oni come out of a mysterious stone than a grentch or a golem, etc.
One more I forgot to mention is the Smoke Phantom... those have some nice damage too, but its still elemental damage (which means it sucks in HM). And of course the merchants are useful, just not in combat
TheRaven
I'll have to give my vote to the Merchant Summoning Stone. Most awesome summon ever!!!!!!
Swahnee
The merchant summoning stone is the only one i pay attention to have when i'm going to do caravan vanquishes/dungeons. I rarely use the others so i can't say..
Star_Jewel
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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer
And of course the merchants are useful, just not in combat
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dansamy
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I dunno.... The fact that he follows you around means he'll often get involved in combat anyway. He can be quite the Leeroy at times.
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Star_Jewel
*LOL* True, true. When I first started using him, I'd freak out. "Dammit, Merchant, stop fighting everything!" But the little bugger can actually live through some abuse.
Captain Bulldozer
I'd like the merchant summons better if, when he died, he dropped one of everything he normally sells
branamanp
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The Frosty Summoning Stone doesn't get enough respect.
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nver count out the snowman
rb.widow
I actually like the Ooze, nothing like a tank or some minions holding a group together, Ooze moves in, Earthquake, BOOM Aftershock, enemies be dead.
Crystal Guardian and Raptor are also useful.
Crystal Guardian and Raptor are also useful.
DeanBB
No love for the bees? 
Verene
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I actually like the Ooze, nothing like a tank or some minions holding a group together, Ooze moves in, Earthquake, BOOM Aftershock, enemies be dead.
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Crystal Spider is a badass. Got that one while trying BFLA, and the damn thing managed to tank an entire wave on its own when we wiped. Pretty awesome (and hilarious).
Fate Crusher
Merchant gets full props for Distracting Blow.
Ooze, Crystal Guardian (MEGATRON) and Crystal Spider (STARSCREAM) are my favourite and actually decent ones that I get on a regular basis for me to notice them lol.
Only got the Black Beast once
Ooze, Crystal Guardian (MEGATRON) and Crystal Spider (STARSCREAM) are my favourite and actually decent ones that I get on a regular basis for me to notice them lol.
Only got the Black Beast once
Outerworld
Its by no means the most useful, but i love the White Rabbit mainly for its reference.
Iuris
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Merchant gets full props for Distracting Blow.
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Ailina
Yeah, the merchant is pretty kickass on his own.
Plus, you can throw like gdw or something on him and just lol as he pounds through the mobs.
I was trying to think of some awesome enemy that would make a kickass summoning stone, and the first thing I thought of was Abbadon. I mean, hey, he's a GOD, right? That's gotta be kickass!
...but then I remembered exactly how lame he was ingame.
So my vote stays with the merchie.
Plus, you can throw like gdw or something on him and just lol as he pounds through the mobs.
I was trying to think of some awesome enemy that would make a kickass summoning stone, and the first thing I thought of was Abbadon. I mean, hey, he's a GOD, right? That's gotta be kickass!
...but then I remembered exactly how lame he was ingame.
So my vote stays with the merchie.
Asrai
I had never heard of the merchant summing stone so I did a quick look up and see the traveler gives you 5 Mercantile Summoning Stones ? I assume that means each stone can only be used once. Is that true for all of the summoning stones, ie the Jade stone, etc ?
Shadow Dragon
i used a mysterious stone on fow spider run, got a ooze, that earth magic power house pulverized those poor spiders and dryders. got 4 shards out of it
30 min run down to 20
30 min run down to 20
DeanBB
Yes, Asrai, except for the Fire Imp stone they are one-shot.