White Mantle or Peacekeeper minis

Wyndy

Wyndy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

in the know

Chronic Chaos

N/Me

Now that we can solo White Mantle and Peacekeepers as Thackerey, I was curious to know if more people are getting mini drops. Has anyone gotten one from playing the HotN missions?

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

I haven't even seen them drop confessor orders let alone anything to write home about.

Celestina

Celestina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Veritas Invictus

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Best I've gotten is a decent amount of golds.

SpyderArachnid

SpyderArachnid

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

United States

Lords Of Noh [LoN]

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Haven't seen any Confessor's Orders, but those might be WiK only drops. That is why we aren't seeing them from these White Mantle/Peacekeepers. Might be the same for the minis, seeing as those were WiK content, not HotN content.

Best thing I got so far was a R9 Gold White Reaver. Otherwise, just junk. >.<

jimbo32

jimbo32

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2008

Canada

Gentlemens Club [GC]

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I think maybe the greens are disabled in general. No WiK uniques that I've seen, and I soloed Rotscale four or five times with no sign of the green Recurve.

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo32 View Post
I think maybe the greens are disabled in general. No WiK uniques that I've seen, and I soloed Rotscale four or five times with no sign of the green Recurve.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ale_Farmer.jpg

Rotscale still drops greens

jimbo32

jimbo32

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2008

Canada

Gentlemens Club [GC]

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Interesting. Like SpyderArachnid said, maybe it's just WiK stuff that's not dropping. Anyone gotten any of those green weps?

Ailina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2010

Whats Prot Spirit [FoR]

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I've gotten a whole bunch of confessor's orders just from the doing the first mission (twice) alone. So "WiK stuff" is definitely dropping...
I think it would have been really odd to go out of their way to disable just the greens, but it's Anet, so who knows?

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yea I just kinda realized this too, after completing this with 3 characters, I never had a drop of even a confessor's order.

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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I have got confessor's orders on these missions, no greens though but thats not unusual....

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

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Not a single confessor order dropped, much less a mini.

-Martian-

-Martian-

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

Completed all quests with my full account (5 characters), not even a single confessor's order or green dropped.

fubar knobby

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/N

ailina you must be doing the normal war in kryta missions not the heart of the north follow up i`m on my 5th toon going through the follow up and have not had a confessor order or green drop. as seeing as there is a max of 2 in your party the chances of confessors orders not dropping (if they could) says 1 thing they are not dropping in the follow up hotn quest line.

Sakura Az

Sakura Az

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

The frozen north

Ambassadors Of Enlightenment [Sage]

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ive gotten a handful of cofessor orders from the keiran missions... no greens tho.

-Vodka-

-Vodka-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

UK

Mo/

I have also recieved Confessor's Orders from the Keiran missions.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

One Confessor's orders from the new content.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

The drops are almost surely working differently for the Keiran's missions than for typical WiK-enabled explorables.

As an experiment I have cleared the entire Watchtower Coast as Keiran, have observed receiving full 100% drops - always 1 drop per 1 enemy killed (no lootscaling) but have got 0 (zero) WiK specific drops. No Confessor's Orders at all. No other drop anomalies observed.

I did this part particularily because I've been solo farming WiK Watchtower Coast with my rit, getting amount of drops much below 100% (typical speed-based lootscaling) and getting always a bunch (5++) Confessor's Orders per run.


Question for people who claim they got Confessor's Orders from the new content - are you absolutely sure you had them drop while playing as Keiran or maybe got them on the run to grab the next quest enabling item?

Also a SCREENSHOT of having a Confessor's Orders drop while playing as Keiran is welcome in this thread.
I'll be playing more of this myself so will post more observations or even screens later.

EDIT: On subsequent runs the lootscaling works as normal so it's no longer 100% drops (the first run must have been different because I've started it very slowly reading and getting used to new skills and being very slow at killing then). Still zero Confessor's Orders.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Did it with 3 characters so far.
All my margrid heroes have the Rotscale bow now, I even got more than one drop in some runs (the other dragons may drop the green bow too) but I haven't seen a single WiK-specific drop in any of the runs.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

6 chars through this new content and no Confessor Orders. Not too surprising since this would be a beyond belief easy way to farm WiK related things.

I have solo farmed the base in Nebo quite a bit in the past and after just over 3 stacks of Orders I had 4 green weapons (zero miniatures). Needless to say they are quite rare as drops but your mileage may vary.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

8 Chars through new content....6 Rotscale bows...0 confessors orders

Definately would like to see some screens of them dropping while playing as Keiran, although I doubt we will.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
The drops are almost surely working differently for the Keiran's missions than for typical WiK-enabled explorables.

As an experiment I have cleared the entire Watchtower Coast as Keiran, have observed receiving full 100% drops - always 1 drop per 1 enemy killed (no lootscaling) but have got 0 (zero) WiK specific drops. No Confessor's Orders at all. No other drop anomalies observed.

I did this part particularily because I've been solo farming WiK Watchtower Coast with my rit, getting amount of drops much below 100% (typical speed-based lootscaling) and getting always a bunch (5++) Confessor's Orders per run.


Question for people who claim they got Confessor's Orders from the new content - are you absolutely sure you had them drop while playing as Keiran or maybe got them on the run to grab the next quest enabling item? Also a SCREENSHOT of having a Confessor's Orders drop while playing as Keiran is welcome in this thread.
I'll be playing more of this myself so will post more observations or even screens later.

EDIT: On subsequent runs the lootscaling works as normal so it's no longer 100% drops (the first run must have been different because I've started it very slowly reading and getting used to new skills and being very slow at killing then). Still zero Confessor's Orders.
It mus be like Yawgmoth says.

I havn't seen any orders on my runs as wel.

Sprites

Sprites

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

royaume de la lumi??re :D

LOGW

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got one confessor order , but didn't take a screenshot

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

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I have gotten two Rotscale Recurves bows on 2 runs of that mini-mission and a confessors orders, however i did not think they were rare enough to screenshot

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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I will document if I get one...

I've only run Arrowhead like 20 times, no confessor orders (plenty of badges and emblems.... grrr).

snodaard

snodaard

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Holland

[Uni]

Mo/

Rotring recurves bows always drop from rotscale I herd. or am I wrong?

Pinkest One

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2009

Ohio

Amateur Pwnography [SeKz] Officer

Mo/

Completed the 2nd quest enough times to get 3 Rotwings and not one Order.

Quote:
Originally Posted by snodaard View Post
Rotring recurves bows always drop from rotscale I herd. or am I wrong?
You're mistaken.

Ailina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2010

Whats Prot Spirit [FoR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinkest One View Post
Completed the 2nd quest enough times to get 3 Rotwings and not one Order.

Quote:
Originally Posted by snodaard View Post
Rotring recurves bows always drop from rotscale I herd. or am I wrong?
You're mistaken.


Actually, Rotwing always drops this bow, at least according to both wikis. Obviously, if you have heroes or henchies in your group, there's a chance it will drop for them, so you won't see it drop.

ALSO:
Sorry this is so late, but looking back, I'm pretty certain now that I got those confessor's orders fighting to the arrowhead. Sorry for being an idiot.

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailina View Post
Actually, Rotwing always drops this bow, at least according to both wikis. Obviously, if you have heroes or henchies in your group, there's a chance it will drop for them, so you won't see it drop.

ALSO:
Sorry this is so late, but looking back, I'm pretty certain now that I got those confessor's orders fighting to the arrowhead. Sorry for being an idiot.
Rotwing does not always drop the bow.

Killing him solo with Kieran (Miku is an ally, and does not get drops) is not guaranteed to get a bow.

I got 3 bows in a row, but a friend of mine got 0.

Xaft

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

yeah, you cant take henchmen into these quests.... and people have not gotten rotwing to drop a bow in the quest, even though your playing effectively by yourself for drop purposes, so its not a 100% drop.

kokuou

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua View Post
Rotwing does not always drop the bow.

Killing him solo with Kieran (Miku is an ally, and does not get drops) is not guaranteed to get a bow.

I got 3 bows in a row, but a friend of mine got 0.
I can confirm this. I killed Rotwing as Keiran yesterday, and no bow dropped for me.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Rotscale always drops its bow.
So... why don't we get it sometimes?
Because the source of damage that killed Rotscale came from an NPC.

In this case, that NPC would be Miku. If her attacks or conditions kill Rotscale, you won't get the bow.
I got it every single time I killed rotscale with the sniper shot, but the time it died due to bleeding, the last one that deal that condition as Miku, so I didn't got the bow.

Same happens to me in Kilroy's Dungeon. Enemies he kills won't drop anything for me.

godsie

godsie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

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it is not dependant on the source of the damage that kills rotscale - it is a random whether you get it or Miku. I was doing the kieran mission and right at the end with rotscale very low on health - Miku died and I finished rotscale off with arrow skills - I still did not end up with the bow - I assume Miku got it even though she was dead.

matter of time

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

why you consider Rotwing as exceptional boss? or as boss like one? the drop is random and this is the question of luck ... of course there are mobs with higher rate and lower one but this is a different story ... I do not think the drop appearance has sth to do with the fact the NPC or char has finished the mob ...however of course due to the fact that you kill Rotwing with 2 memeber party increases the drop rate significantly comapring to full 6 member team kill ...

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Rotscale is a boss-like foe, like the end-game bosses. It doesn't have boss glow, and it seems he doesn't have Natural Resistance like other Prophecies bosses.

vader

vader

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by godsie View Post
it is not dependant on the source of the damage that kills rotscale - it is a random whether you get it or Miku. I was doing the kieran mission and right at the end with rotscale very low on health - Miku died and I finished rotscale off with arrow skills - I still did not end up with the bow - I assume Miku got it even though she was dead.
Miku is an ally, I thought allies don't get drops.

matter of time

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
Rotscale is a boss-like foe, like the end-game bosses. It doesn't have boss glow, and it seems he doesn't have Natural Resistance like other Prophecies bosses.
thanks for this obvious info ... i was refferig to the proper naming it but ... in fact whatever it is ... my question is still valid why you think this foe has ''special'' drop mechanism?