Summoned creatures

BoredJoe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

How about allowing more than 1 summoned creature from a stone being active in an instance. There's hardly any reason to use them imo, but allowing more than one active might add that novelty value which means they are used.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

They add damage and heals on top of your massive damage and heals you have from your builds. If you don't want them, feel free to give them to me.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

/notsigned.

I don't think summoning stones are really supposed to be useful anyway, so I don't think increasing the cap would be a good thing. Besides, why would they not have novelty value if you can only have one?

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

R/

Yes, because allowing 8 people to use a Shining Blade Warhorn to have 3 allies each totally wouldn't cause even the worst teams to rofl-stomp every single area

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

/not signed. There are enough "easy buttons" as it is.

Can you imagine a full party of 8, with 24 Shining Blade Allies, throw in a MM and a Mesmer or two spamming EVAS (using echos)? That's just nuts!

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

I could go for the summoning sickness being reduced so you could pretty much have one active all the time but multiple stones at the same time is making things too easy.

reaper with no name

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

D/

/notsigned

Summoning stones and other consumables should have never existed to begin with.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I'd rather have the sickness linked to the Summon (like the Minion count effect) so when the creature dies, it goes away and you can bring another one.

But more than one? Hehe... no.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

I like the Mysterious summoning stones and the consumables but then I am not that great a player.
Those who never need them or like a challenge can ignore them.

Games should be fun and interesting.
Anything that adds either is to be desired.

When us average players get to somewhere difficult or in my eyes absolutely *! impossible.
Instead of a mistake causing a wipe and a restart we can repair the damage grab an extra ally and try again.

Besides its fun to have a strange companion along.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoredJoe View Post
How about allowing more than 1 summoned creature from a stone being active in an instance. There's hardly any reason to use them imo, but allowing more than one active might add that novelty value which means they are used.
More than one stone....


/unsigned.


However, What I would like to see is that they undo the time penalty on it.
This is not really a problem when you have more people in the party so they
can use stones to.
But when you are on H/H party en hopefully in the near future 7 hero's
than the time penalty is a bugger.

So if there could be a possibility that they could undo the time penalty playing
with H/H than I would be more than satisfied

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

no thanks. Here is the problem: Solo farming with multiple stones because summoned creatures don't take drops. So you go around buying 1 of each type of stone and head into an area...do I really need to explain why this is a bad idea? Even if you mean letting 1 person from the party each use one(which you didn't specify btw) it's still a bad idea because then you have a party of 8, minions, spirits and 8 summon stones as well as EVAS and Asura summons?!

/notsigned

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

  • Dump a stack of Mysterious Summoning Stones
  • Suddenly, you have a party of 250+.
  • STEAM
  • ROLL
  • EVERYTHING

Limits are there for a reason. Consumables already do terrible things for PvE balance, and summoning stones don't need to become any stronger any time soon either.

Zenzai

Zenzai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
I'd rather have the sickness linked to the Summon (like the Minion count effect) so when the creature dies, it goes away and you can bring another one.

But more than one? Hehe... no.
This. More than one is too much power.

Not signed.

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
  • Dump a stack of Mysterious Summoning Stones
  • Suddenly, you have a party of 250+.
  • STEAM
  • ROLL
  • EVERYTHING
QFT
Rolling through UW and FoW with 250 summoned creatures...I don't see how that could POSSIBLY be a bad idea.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

i find the dream rider better then 90% of pugs

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

I can't see how this could possibly not be abused.

/notsigned

BoredJoe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

So what am I meant to do with 900 summoning stones, and steamrolling dungeons and areas is the whole idea (fun).

Considering how fast speed clears are, where is it really going to matter now adays?

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoredJoe View Post
So what am I meant to do with 900 summoning stones, and steamrolling dungeons and areas is the whole idea (fun).

Considering how fast speed clears are, where is it really going to matter now adays?
If this is the case, give me back my 600/smite team. North Kryta Province and Nebo Terrace were fun to steamroll.

BoredJoe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perkunas View Post
If this is the case, give me back my 600/smite team. North Kryta Province and Nebo Terrace were fun to steamroll.
Make a new thread then. This one is for mega-summoning mobs. At the very least it'll encourage people to team up with others.

reaper with no name

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoredJoe View Post
So what am I meant to do with 900 summoning stones, and steamrolling dungeons and areas is the whole idea (fun).

Considering how fast speed clears are, where is it really going to matter now adays?
This is a game intended to appeal to a wide variety of playstyles. One of the reasons low-level areas exist is to allow players who like steam-rolling things to have their fun. Tougher areas are intended for people who desire a challenge. This system allows both demographics to have fun.

If, however, every area could be steamrolled, then the latter group loses their fun. Is that fair? No, it is not.

BoredJoe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper with no name View Post
This is a game intended to appeal to a wide variety of playstyles. One of the reasons low-level areas exist is to allow players who like steam-rolling things to have their fun. Tougher areas are intended for people who desire a challenge. This system allows both demographics to have fun.

If, however, every area could be steamrolled, then the latter group loses their fun. Is that fair? No, it is not.
Considering most high end areas can be speed cleared at the moment it's hard to see why this would be any different, and this would be fairer as it doesn't require a niche build or character to steam roll the area.

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDog91 View Post
Yes, because allowing 8 people to use a Shining Blade Warhorn to have 3 allies each totally wouldn't cause even the worst teams to rofl-stomp every single area
Quoted for truth.