Ravenheart Gloom Help
Shadowlion
We got 2 with 6 heroes, can't pass "To the rescue", too many monsters.Also I looked at wiki it said greater darknesses will spawn 5 darknessses, each of them will spawn 6 tormentor after death, how can I deal with 30+ mobs in 1 fight?
Schnellburg
Kill the darkness 1 at a time. Problem solved.
Shadowlion
Do they separate? Otherwise it will be hard since got to bring massive aoe skills for "to the rescue".
Ok Dont Panic
Well first of all, what heros are you running because other wise we cant help you.
NM / HM?
Cons?
Look at using the Platoon way builds if you are taking 2 people + heros. And consumables also help
If you want to use a more balanced build then try a panic mesmer. They can considerably decrease the damage done
NM / HM?
Cons?
Look at using the Platoon way builds if you are taking 2 people + heros. And consumables also help
If you want to use a more balanced build then try a panic mesmer. They can considerably decrease the damage done
Shadowlion
I am a panic mesmer, with my dervish friend. We got 2 monks, 2 SF ele with Maelstrom, 1 earth ele and 1 mm with aura of the lich. the problem is too many demons in the last few waves.
Ok Dont Panic
are you using cons? and try taking a prot Rit hero :3
Shadowlion
What is cons? Which hero shall I drop off?
Shadowlion
So replace with necro and mesmer?
Ok Dont Panic
necros rits and mesmers do a lot more damage
drkn
I've cleaned Gloom as primairy mes running a bit tackled discordway build + having my rit fiancee run SoS spiritmancer, with additional defensive heroes (one prot, one heal, one wards/nukes/snares). With careful pulling, it's walk in a park. No cons. Hint: a dervish can be a spiritmancer as well.
Though it's the easy way, a panic mes and a AoHM derv might do as well.
Though it's the easy way, a panic mes and a AoHM derv might do as well.
Calista Blackblood
Well you can do it two ways,
Reduce Armor - Cracked armor via Weaken Armor/Spirit Rift
Armor ignoring damage - SS-Mark of pain-Visions of regret and use unstrippable buffs on your derv - Splinter Weapon (which is capable of soooo much damage)
But I'm just brainstorming (Dropping your SF and MM)
SS Necro
VoR/Tease Mesmer hero (VoR probably won't be great with a panic human though)
Channelling Ritualist hero with mighty Splinter Weapon
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Reduce Armor - Cracked armor via Weaken Armor/Spirit Rift
Armor ignoring damage - SS-Mark of pain-Visions of regret and use unstrippable buffs on your derv - Splinter Weapon (which is capable of soooo much damage)
But I'm just brainstorming (Dropping your SF and MM)
SS Necro
VoR/Tease Mesmer hero (VoR probably won't be great with a panic human though)
Channelling Ritualist hero with mighty Splinter Weapon
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I've cleaned Gloom as primairy mes running a bit tackled discordway build + having my rit fiancee run SoS spiritmancer, with additional defensive heroes (one prot, one heal, one wards/nukes/snares). With careful pulling, it's walk in a park. No cons. Hint: a dervish can be a spiritmancer as well.
Though it's the easy way, a panic mes and a AoHM derv might do as well. What? Seriously?
Though it's the easy way, a panic mes and a AoHM derv might do as well. What? Seriously?
Shadowlion
MM is a good way to trigger mark of pain, VOR won't do much damage since panic is on. I guess I will drop the earth ele for a curse necro. Then drop a SF ele for a prot Rit if necessary.
Calista Blackblood
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MM is a good way to trigger mark of pain, VOR won't do much damage since panic is on. I guess I will drop the earth ele for a curse necro. Then drop a SF ele for a prot Rit if necessary.
No your derv friend will be able to trigger it so much better if you call the target. ^ SF is extremely weak,why drop your earth ele..
Shadowlion
If he charge in alone he'll die very quickly. Since they got high armor and a lot of interruption, earth ele won't do much. Also lots of death nova will be good.
Calista Blackblood
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If he charge in alone he'll die very quickly. Since they got high armor and a lot of interruption, earth ele won't do much. Also lots of death nova will be good.
One can only assume you had wards on earth ele,a major major part of your defense. Uhh yeah don't charge in either,that is normally highly detrimental.
Ok Dont Panic
Earth ele is weaker than a sf ele now is it o.o
how about just take ursan at this rate.. hurrduur
how about just take ursan at this rate.. hurrduur
Shadowlion
Then how about the later part? Since Greater Darknesses will spawn 5 Darknesses and each of them will spawn tormentor, how could I take on 30 mobs in a fight? Even if I kill them 1 by 1 it will be hard.
Ok Dont Panic
kill them one at a time.. buy luring them away. you have Panic.. 6 foes at a time.. isnt that scary... and they are Dervs at the end. I mean. Dervs..
Shadowlion
So
1 panic mesmer
2 SF ele with wards
1 MM necro
1 Curse necro with SS
2 monks
1 dervish
Ok or change 1 monk to rit?
1 panic mesmer
2 SF ele with wards
1 MM necro
1 Curse necro with SS
2 monks
1 dervish
Ok or change 1 monk to rit?
Ok Dont Panic
No change the eles >< The SF eles dont do nearly as much damage as a rit would. Changing out even one SF ele to a Clamour of Souls rit would probably be a huge improvment.
My opinion is.
DwG mesmer - human
-Panic hero
-SoS Rit
-UA monk
DwG dervish - human
-ST rit
-MM necro
-Clamour rit
this might be a better alternative ><
My opinion is.
DwG mesmer - human
-Panic hero
-SoS Rit
-UA monk
DwG dervish - human
-ST rit
-MM necro
-Clamour rit
this might be a better alternative ><
Calista Blackblood
Shadowlion
They don't just do direct damage, also aoe knockdown/interrupt with burning. Also with cracked armor they should perform better.
As for the mm, they form a wall but also able to inflict aoe damage when they die.
As for the mm, they form a wall but also able to inflict aoe damage when they die.
Calista Blackblood
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They don't just do direct damage, also aoe knockdown/interrupt with burning. Also with cracked armor they should perform better.
As for the mm, they form a wall but also able to inflict aoe damage when they die. Burning isn't that great of a condition,especially vs lvl 28 foes.Meteor Shower? Foes should be dead long before the minions really..
As for the mm, they form a wall but also able to inflict aoe damage when they die. Burning isn't that great of a condition,especially vs lvl 28 foes.Meteor Shower? Foes should be dead long before the minions really..
Ok Dont Panic
If you only have one melee and if he is attacking you are going to need some heavy hex removal k?
o and burning on foes that have smite conditions and stuff is strong!
o and burning on foes that have smite conditions and stuff is strong!
Shadowlion
I just think it's not impossible to beat this with SF eles.
FoxBat
Illusion clumsiness mesmer, splinter weapon/arage/strength of honor for the derv, and maybe some smite AoE are going to do a ton more for you than fire. Especially since cry of pain + death nova should already hit the degen cap. Aura of the Lich on your MM is worth it for this quest, disable and micro, there are points where your army will be nearly dead and you will be knee deep in bodies, this gets some resilient minions up very fast. There are enough hexes here that avatar of dwayna is worth considering, although panic + some smite can do wonders.
Ok Dont Panic
honestly i really think you should drop the SF eles... there is a lot better damage dealing heros and builds than SF ><
Net The Nabi
Why would you come asking for advice, and then outright ignore the biggest piece of it you've gotten? It seems to be the general consensus to drop the SF eles IN THIS INSTANCE. So, why not? Your goal is to pass right? Not to pass with SF eles.
Shadowlion
Ok I will drop them, but not sure how to build a good channeling rit, can I go with 2 SoS necro replace the 2 ele?
Calista Blackblood
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Ok I will drop them, but not sure how to build a good channeling rit, can I go with 2 SoS necro replace the 2 ele?
No you can only have one of each spirit.
Essence Snow
Carboplatin
I would drop both SF eles, they just aren't that useful in doa imo.
You can replace those 2 eles with any 2 of the following:
1 SF ele for a SoS rit with Ancestor's rage and splinter weapon.
1 SF ele for either an Energy surge mes or an ineptitude mesmer.
1 SF ele for ST communing rit (this might be an overkill imo)
bring mark of pain on the curse necro as well (if your derv is not doing holy dmg)
and in case you really didn't know, Cons = consumables
You can replace those 2 eles with any 2 of the following:
1 SF ele for a SoS rit with Ancestor's rage and splinter weapon.
1 SF ele for either an Energy surge mes or an ineptitude mesmer.
1 SF ele for ST communing rit (this might be an overkill imo)
bring mark of pain on the curse necro as well (if your derv is not doing holy dmg)
and in case you really didn't know, Cons = consumables
Shadowlion
Why use rit for SoS? I don't understand.
Life Bringing
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Why use rit for SoS? I don't understand.
Because it's a build made up entirely of rit skills that has access to spirit siphon?
Shadowlion
I don't know much about that build, I will try to get my own build for SoS curse necro. Also, can I bring Jora? She's my favorite.
Essence Snow
Now I'm just confused at why you are posting. You ask for help yet ignore everyone's advice.
WarcryOfTruth
Shadowlion
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Now I'm just confused at why you are posting. You ask for help yet ignore everyone's advice.
I know nothing about those builds, so I can only try to build myself.