New Sword- PDS!
Mac_Eanruig
I'm a huge fan of the Dragon Swords....they are IMO one of the best looking in the game. On my main toon....i run the full set.
Firey Dragon
Icy Dragon
and Vamp Dragon.
But that still leaves 1 equip spot open....
and after getting the full set it hit me that for
a W/R poison is one of the best conditions you can use.
And the VDS skin is awsome. I thought if we had a Poisonous Dragon Sword
(green Flame,) that would be very usefull and would fit into the Nick the Traveler bit the same way with the VDS "Necromancer Mune often offers these to me in trade."
Could be turned to "Ranger XXX often offers these to me in trade."
or even better..."Keiran Thackery often offers these to me in trade."
Just a thought. it'd be cool to have one more in the set to kind of round it off.
Firey Dragon
Icy Dragon
and Vamp Dragon.
But that still leaves 1 equip spot open....
and after getting the full set it hit me that for
a W/R poison is one of the best conditions you can use.
And the VDS skin is awsome. I thought if we had a Poisonous Dragon Sword
(green Flame,) that would be very usefull and would fit into the Nick the Traveler bit the same way with the VDS "Necromancer Mune often offers these to me in trade."
Could be turned to "Ranger XXX often offers these to me in trade."
or even better..."Keiran Thackery often offers these to me in trade."
Just a thought. it'd be cool to have one more in the set to kind of round it off.
Olle
/signed, not anything that takes to long to create, as the skin already exists, and a green flame would rock!
Elmindreda Farshaw
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would be cool, also make it physical damage so we can use it with 100b/MoP spike.
would be cool, also make it physical damage so we can use it with 100b/MoP spike.
Tripolityx
Pink flame for butterflies which bites orks to death \o/!!
Xsiriss
Or just let us dye the flame onan FDS too?
MithranArkanere
Let's see... sword prefixes...
Barbed
Crippling
Cruel
Poisonous
Ebon
Fiery X
Icy X
Shocking
Furious
Sundering
Vampiric X
Zealous
So... it seems there are some left.
I'd go for Zealous first.
Purple tongue for 'chaos', and you get a Soulstealer Dragon Sword.
Barbed
Crippling
Cruel
Poisonous
Ebon
Fiery X
Icy X
Shocking
Furious
Sundering
Vampiric X
Zealous
So... it seems there are some left.
I'd go for Zealous first.
Purple tongue for 'chaos', and you get a Soulstealer Dragon Sword.
Spiritz
some weapon mods id prefer if they sort of did what they say - eg firey , shocking actually s small amount of dmg as the hit would include fire dmg .I mean zeleous/vampiric do extra function so why couldnt poisonous sword inflict poison dmg just for a few secs .
kedde
Just use texmod?
newbie_of_doom
Ye, we definitely need a green posonious dragon sword. Everyone knows W/R is the best!!!!!!!!1!!!!1!
Captain Bulldozer
Am I the only one who thinks the skin on these swords is... well... kinda ugly? Compare it to say, a flaming Gladius, or a host of other nicer sword skins... changing the color of the "blade" doesn't make it much more appealing imo.
NerfHerder
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It would be neat if we could get a special modable Dragon Sword that changed color depending on the mod applied. A special animation for shocking or others would be cool. But that might be too much work to implement. I would even be happy if a few mods like Icy and Shocking shared the blue color for instance.
It would be neat if we could get a special modable Dragon Sword that changed color depending on the mod applied. A special animation for shocking or others would be cool. But that might be too much work to implement. I would even be happy if a few mods like Icy and Shocking shared the blue color for instance.
Deviant Angel
/signed
I wouldn't mind seeing other flavors of the dragon swords. I've always wanted one with green or purple flames!
NerfHerder's idea would be pretty neat as well.
I wouldn't mind seeing other flavors of the dragon swords. I've always wanted one with green or purple flames!
NerfHerder's idea would be pretty neat as well.
Mac_Eanruig
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Let's see... sword prefixes...
Barbed Crippling Cruel Poisonous Ebon Fiery X Icy X Shocking Furious Sundering Vampiric X Zealous So... it seems there are some left. I'd go for Zealous first. Purple tongue for 'chaos', and you get a Soulstealer Dragon Sword. |
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Choas Dragon Sword Chaos Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship) Dmg + 15% (While Health is Above 50%) Energy gain on hit: 3 Energy regeneration -1 Armor +7 (vs. Physical Dmg.) "Gwen Thackery often gives these to me in trade." -Nick |
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Choas Dragon Sword Chaos Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship) Dmg + 15% (vs. Hexed foes) Energy gain on hit: 3 Energy regeneration -1 Armor +7 (vs. Physical Dmg.) "Gwen Thackery often gives these to me in trade." -Nick |
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Kaolin Blade Chaos Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship) Dmg + 15% (While Health is Above 50%) Energy gain on hit: 1 Energy regeneration -1 Armor +7 (vs. Physical Dmg.) |
So it's workable. Change the skin on the VDS to a Purple flame....
use stats from Kaolin Blade....bump up e drain to 3. & Vola!
Chaos/Soulstealing Dragon Sword. and would be an awsome match for the Poisonous Dragon Sword. we'd get 1 from Keriean Thackery and one from Gwen Thackery. And it's be a nice tie in with the GW beyond...
Anyone wanna take a stab at stats for a Poisonous?
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Poisonous Dragon Sword Slashing Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship) Lengthens Poision duration on foes by 33% (Stacking) Armor +7 (vs. Elemental Dmg.) "Keiran Thackery often offers these to me in trade." -Nick |
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Poisonous Dragon Sword Slashing Dmg: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship) Poisons foes on hit (5 seconds) Armor +7 (vs. Elemental Dmg.) "Keiran Thackery often offers these to me in trade." -Nick |
I'm not too keen on the idea of others. These are special items...that'd be over doing it a bit imo. a barbed dragon sword? i dunno. and how could that tie in with story @ all? With the PDS & CDS...we could tie in to Gwen & Kerian in GW beyond.
If anyone here has the skin for VDS from the GW .dat file please let me know how to get a copy. I may take a stab at photo shop. I've been painting skins on pilots & WWII planes for IL-2 Strumovik for years. might not be to hard to reskin it myself and send it to the devs.
Mac_Eanruig
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Am I the only one who thinks the skin on these swords is... well... kinda ugly? Compare it to say, a flaming Gladius, or a host of other nicer sword skins... changing the color of the "blade" doesn't make it much more appealing imo.
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No luck.
But i'd note that it does same Fire dmg instead of slashing.
Same as with the Glacial Blade with does Cold dmg.
The one problem with the idea of a posionous dragon sword is.....
well....what kind of dmg would it do? I'm thinking slashing.
But i'm open to ideas.
Marty Silverblade
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I could go for a Chaos Dragon Sword with purple flame. World work the same a VDS but insted of vamping HP it would leech E instead. that might make Illusionary Weaponry actually useful and fun again. IMO. use the same stats as VDS.
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Or This: Which might be even better with +15 vs Hex. |
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The diff. behind this sword is the +3 E drain instead of the +1 of Kaolin Blade. |
PS: I recommend against suggesting new weapon mods. More work for Anet = less chance of actually getting what you want.
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Or could work like this: |
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If anyone here has the skin for VDS from the GW .dat file please let me know how to get a copy. I may take a stab at photo shop. I've been painting skins on pilots & WWII planes for IL-2 Strumovik for years. might not be to hard to reskin it myself and send it to the devs. |
Anyway, if all you want is a weapon skin, you can just TexMod it like previous people have mentioned. People have already made pink FDS's; there's one on the Wiki.
Mac_Eanruig
Have no idea what that is.
5 years in on GW i doubt i'll start using mods at this point.
i watched one of the best PC sims ever made turned into crapola
over night with mods/hacks. Nothing like a BF-109 zipping around doing UFO batman turns while shooting down 12 P-47's with 8 mk108 30mm cannons from 2 miles away to give you that warm and fuzzy gaming feeling.
So if there's any hacking or modding going on in GW i don't wanna know about it. Ignorance is bliss.
5 years in on GW i doubt i'll start using mods at this point.
i watched one of the best PC sims ever made turned into crapola
over night with mods/hacks. Nothing like a BF-109 zipping around doing UFO batman turns while shooting down 12 P-47's with 8 mk108 30mm cannons from 2 miles away to give you that warm and fuzzy gaming feeling.
So if there's any hacking or modding going on in GW i don't wanna know about it. Ignorance is bliss.
Marty Silverblade
TexMod isn't actually a mod (though I suppose it depends on your definition). All it does is modify the texture of something. So if you had a red apple, you could use TexMod to change it to a green apple, or a blue sparkly apple, or a glowing apple, etc. You could not make a second apple, change it into a banana, or make the apple dance. Anet is fine with TexMod but they aren't responsible if you screw something up with it.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/TexMod
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/TexMod
Exhibit A
Well, the Vampiric Dragon Sword does slashing, so a poisonous one probably would. Also, you should keep in mind that the VDS and IDS from Nick have no upgrades aside from the prefix.
I would like to see:
Poisonous Dragon Sword: sickly green flame
Zealous Dragon Sword: purple flame
Shocking/Ebon Dragon Swords: light yellow/brown flames
I would like to see:
Poisonous Dragon Sword: sickly green flame
Zealous Dragon Sword: purple flame
Shocking/Ebon Dragon Swords: light yellow/brown flames
Spookii
Definitely a cool idea!
/signed
/signed
Mac_Eanruig
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I'm pretty sure that's not going to work. I read somewhere that if the devs accept/implement something based on something not developed by Anet staff they have to worry about copyright or some other legal crap (I've heard this means Anet are legally obligated to not read this forum). Thus, sending them stuff to implement is probably going to get ignored. |
any work I/we did as community members was understood as pro bono. We were required to sign a standerd NDA & claim waiver. Not too bad. pretty standerd stuff.
Outside of getting new planes/skins for the sim for everyone.....we got a t-shit, IL-2 Poster....spots on the beta team (closed beta) and an autographed Copy by the Devs. & Producer, and our names/callsigns in the thank you section of the liner. Which we never asked for anything, but was just kinda a thank you for the work we did. But understanably...things probly work differnt here. So nuff bout that.
Some of those stats i sugested might be a little much.
my intention was KISS....but it never hurts to try. (KISS = Keep IT SIMPLE STUPID)
Very basic sword with poision 33% & green flame is really all i'm after.
as for textmod. does no good if i'm the only one that sees it.
no WOW factor at all like the 1st time i saw a VDS. My jaw hit the floor. lol
was a MUST HAVE. I would have sold my soul to Grenth to get one first time i saw one.
The Drunkard
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But that still leaves 1 equip spot open....
and after getting the full set it hit me that for a W/R poison is one of the best conditions you can use. |
Sorry, but I'd much rather have a re-skin of a weapon that is actually functional for my character, the glacial blade was insult enough.
/notsigned
MithranArkanere
Ice damage is VERY useful against fire titans, fire elementals and destroyers.
And you'll be enchanted most of the time by a monk while fighting them.
Also ,when fighting warriors, you'll usually change to an elemental mod, since they may have less armor against elements if they don' bring an insignia for that.
The glacial blade is maybe too limited, but it's useful, and for free.
Note that a sword can NOT deal dark, holy or chaos damage.
That's for staves ONLY.
I don't know if that if they can make one that can, but that would be too unbalanced.
You are supposed to use dervish or monks to get the damage changed to holy.
That's why it goes around armor bonuses that specify physical or elemental.
And the only sword that does not deal elemental of slashing damage is the Jitte, which is blunt, that's also physical.
And you'll be enchanted most of the time by a monk while fighting them.
Also ,when fighting warriors, you'll usually change to an elemental mod, since they may have less armor against elements if they don' bring an insignia for that.
The glacial blade is maybe too limited, but it's useful, and for free.
Note that a sword can NOT deal dark, holy or chaos damage.
That's for staves ONLY.
I don't know if that if they can make one that can, but that would be too unbalanced.
You are supposed to use dervish or monks to get the damage changed to holy.
That's why it goes around armor bonuses that specify physical or elemental.
And the only sword that does not deal elemental of slashing damage is the Jitte, which is blunt, that's also physical.
NerfHerder
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So let me get this straight...you want Anet to implement a weapon for a class that needs to invest in a secondary to fully use? You do realize that bringing poison on a warrior is useless in a non 4-by-4 situation? (IE PvE, GvG, HA).
Sorry, but I'd much rather have a re-skin of a weapon that is actually functional for my character, the glacial blade was insult enough. /notsigned |
Now that I'm thinking about it, they could make a fully modable "Dragon Sword" that does slashing damage like any other sword. And, the flame could change color depending on the dye. It couldnt possibly be that difficult to make. I think that would be ideal. That way in PvP they dont know what mod you have by the color
Lore wise a FDS is one of the most powerful swords in existance. So it makes sense for this sword to get special treatment.
helloeveryone
i wonder how a "deep wound" dragon sword will look like aka DDS
Haodu
Spookii
Cruel, Barbed, Sundering, Furious, Crippling - Maybe these shouldn't be converted into Dragon Swords just because of how awkward it would be to turn it into a flame.
Poisonous, Shocking, Ebon, and Zealous might make sense.
Poisonous, Shocking, Ebon, and Zealous might make sense.
Marty Silverblade
Ebon wouldn't. My issue is this: what exactly is 'earth damage' supposed to mean? Fire damage is where intense heat and flames are applied to the target (thus burning them). Lightning damage surges through the target, shutting you down much like a tazer, in addition to possible burns. Ice damage drops your internal temperature and makes it harder/painful to move. Whats earth damage? Throwing some mud at someone? If there was an Ebon Dragon sword, would there be little rocks being spat out of the hilt (keep in mind getting hit by a rock would be blunt damage)?
FoxBat
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If there was an Ebon Dragon sword, would there be little rocks being spat out of the hilt
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(keep in mind getting hit by a rock would be blunt damage)? |
Mac_Eanruig
IN my way of thinking.....it was a logical place to arrive at.
think about it like this....
DRAGON SWORD.
What is realating to dragons as we know them from mythology....
1.Fire
2. Ice
3. Poison ...... it would reason the be IMO that most dragons would, like most reptiles be able to use poison. the ability to breath fire, ice whatever is more of a supernatiral ablity than it is a gentic defense.
I don't think this was lost onthe devs either, since the bone dragons @ Majestys Rest will poison the crap out of you using necro skills.
Thus was the basis of my idea for the Poisonous Dragon Sword. It just seemed a natural fit.
think about it like this....
DRAGON SWORD.
What is realating to dragons as we know them from mythology....
1.Fire
2. Ice
3. Poison ...... it would reason the be IMO that most dragons would, like most reptiles be able to use poison. the ability to breath fire, ice whatever is more of a supernatiral ablity than it is a gentic defense.
I don't think this was lost onthe devs either, since the bone dragons @ Majestys Rest will poison the crap out of you using necro skills.
Thus was the basis of my idea for the Poisonous Dragon Sword. It just seemed a natural fit.
Necrin Blaed
So why don't we petition that a new dyeable/moddable sword with FDS skin be added?
Make it a high end drop of course - FDS, IDS, VDS have all been devalued enough...
Make it a high end drop of course - FDS, IDS, VDS have all been devalued enough...
The Drunkard
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What if I wanted to put it on my Necro as a caster weapon? Warrior isnt the only class in the game that could use it. And its not like you cant already replicate the stats. Nothing game changing, pure cosmetic value.
Now that I'm thinking about it, they could make a fully modable "Dragon Sword" that does slashing damage like any other sword. And, the flame could change color depending on the dye. It couldnt possibly be that difficult to make. I think that would be ideal. That way in PvP they dont know what mod you have by the color Lore wise a FDS is one of the most powerful swords in existance. So it makes sense for this sword to get special treatment. |
Giving a weapon special treatment is not releasing a reskin with terrible mods. No one would use Dhuum's soul reaper if it had cold +15% while hexed +33% DW duration because it looks pretty. Hell, people don't use the VDS because vamp really isn't useful to an already useless weapon for warriors.
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Ice damage is VERY useful against fire titans, fire elementals and destroyers.
And you'll be enchanted most of the time by a monk while fighting them. Also ,when fighting warriors, you'll usually change to an elemental mod, since they may have less armor against elements if they don' bring an insignia for that. |
So we should ask Anet to spend time away from content and skill updates to release a gimped weapon that few can actually use?