A new GvG Tournament, in January !

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

We are pleased to announce the launch of the winter 2011 Mondes Guild Wars Tournament !


This tournament is open to french guilds, and international guilds in which at least one player is french or speaks french.

As seen in the rules, even if your guild doesn't have up to 8 players, you will still be able to participate !

The tournament, based on swiss system, as in MAT, will be held in two phases :
1/ Rankings : from January 17 to January 30, 2011
2/ Eliminations : from january 31 to February 6, 2011


Registrations to the tournament will be open from December 20 to January 10.

Halls of guilds will be changed at fixed timeframe, and will be given after registrations.

What could you win ?
Small things, as the tournament is mainly organized for the sole pleasure of the encounters, not to make nababs out of you ! We have wedding costums, t shirts, and some other littles things to reward the winners.


Do not hesitate to register even if you think you wont be enough, you always gonna find some guests for you to fulfill a team, and be as much people as possible, the larger the greatest !


The news on Mondes Guild Wars Fansite
(go read that for know how to register!)
The rules

kedde

kedde

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]

Mo/A

Sounds pretty cool.

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Do americans who speak french count?

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Good luck ^.^

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Unless there's a large concentration of French GvG'ers left, you'll be hard pressed to get a proper tournament going with a restriction like that. Or maybe I'm wrong, either way, GL.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Rules say you only have to have one player on the team who speaks French. That covers a lot of territory world wise.

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

I'm just gonna ask. Why the frenchie restriction?

Good luck nonetheless.

xhappy feetx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Isle of the Nameless

Black Crescent [BC] / Stonebenders [sC] / The Rimmers [rR]

W/E

Fully supported, anything we can do to help just ask and we will be more than happy.

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ErrantVenture View Post
Do americans who speak french count?
Yes speaking french or be french for one of the guild is for communicate better with me.... My english is really bad, and it's better for you for understand rules if you have some problems for exemple.

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by keli View Post
Removed.
I'm sorry for this rule, you know I'm not Arenanet, I'm only a player like you, trying to make something for community. So if dont have all the possibility of a big company you cant blame me for that.

I had 2 choices : tournament only for french and people whith french native language and you never hear about this tournament.
Or try to open more than that this event, choice I have done. I'm sorry if some guilds are interst and cant participe, but it's better than the first choice, is'nt it?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yniel View Post
I had 2 choices : tournament only for french and people whith french native language and you never hear about this tournament.
Or try to open more than that this event, choice I have done. I'm sorry if some guilds are interst and cant participe, but it's better than the first choice, is'nt it?
It is, good job setting this up.

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yniel View Post
I'm sorry for this rule, you know I'm not Arenanet, I'm only a player like you, trying to make something for community. So if dont have all the possibility of a big company you cant blame me for that.

I had 2 choices : tournament only for french and people whith french native language and you never hear about this tournament.
Or try to open more than that this event, choice I have done. I'm sorry if some guilds are interst and cant participe, but it's better than the first choice, is'nt it?
Alright I understand. I'm going to have to find a frenchie somewhere haha. Keep it up.

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

or a player speaking french, learning french in school

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

Sounds interesting , however i will put my little critic : we know already [FuN] guild is going to win it or ...?
I mean , there should be , like someone suggested , " pro" tournament and " medium" tournament . Otherwise , it makes not much sense , you take french guilds who are usually on top20 MAT and they will form top3 of this tourney ....

Grotesque

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2010

Hex Drugs and Rockn[Roll]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yniel View Post
Yes speaking french or be french for one of the guild is for communicate better with me.... My english is really bad, and it's better for you for understand rules if you have some problems for exemple.
U have rules write in english, right?^^ And they pretty clear as far as i can see.
Maybe it's possible to ask some ur friends, or people from this forum who can speak both english and french to help u coordinate tournament? Honestly don't see the need in french guild members. Sorry for bad english =)

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Missing HB View Post
Sounds interesting , however i will put my little critic : we know already [FuN] guild is going to win it or ...?
I mean , there should be , like someone suggested , " pro" tournament and " medium" tournament . Otherwise , it makes not much sense , you take french guilds who are usually on top20 MAT and they will form top3 of this tourney ....
The problem is not, make a winner, and play only for have a winner (and yes, only good guilds, and guilds that have good reasults at MAT can win a tournament, although you can have surprises)

With events like this one, I try to make that people know others better.
It's an opportunity for guilds that never fight against really good guilds, to fight them and discuss with, about how to play, and so...
An occasion to learn a little, because it's not a MAT with only a purpose : a cape, and dont care about others.
It's an occasion to play, so test builds, discuss, fight others, and yes after for some guild, win, but not the most important.

infi

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

can you guys just hive him a canadian player who speaks both french and english.

problem solved! ~_~

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yniel View Post
The problem is not, make a winner, and play only for have a winner (and yes, only good guilds, and guilds that have good reasults at MAT can win a tournament, although you can have surprises)

With events like this one, I try to make that people know others better.
It's an opportunity for guilds that never fight against really good guilds, to fight them and discuss with, about how to play, and so...
An occasion to learn a little, because it's not a MAT with only a purpose : a cape, and dont care about others.
It's an occasion to play, so test builds, discuss, fight others, and yes after for some guild, win, but not the most important.
Yes , but however the point is to make a lot of guilds come. Most won't even show up if they know from start who will win it. That's why , maybe making worth opponent fights could be nice . Doing like r40 vs r50 , r60 vs r20 and r200 vs 500 , 1500 vs 1200 etc could be better than making r40 vs 1000, r20 vs 1500 , and then all less exped are out after 1 fight ....

xhappy feetx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Isle of the Nameless

Black Crescent [BC] / Stonebenders [sC] / The Rimmers [rR]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Missing HB View Post
Yes , but however the point is to make a lot of guilds come. Most won't even show up if they know from start who will win it. That's why , maybe making worth opponent fights could be nice . Doing like r40 vs r50 , r60 vs r20 and r200 vs 500 , 1500 vs 1200 etc could be better than making r40 vs 1000, r20 vs 1500 , and then all less exped are out after 1 fight ....
This sets up an unbalanced finals bracket, you can still have a losers bracket for other prizes, but you want the best guilds playing against each other in the important games, similiar to the structure of the American NCAA Basketball tournament bracketing structure.

St??phane Lo Presti

St??phane Lo Presti

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2010

Seattle

Quote:
Originally Posted by infi View Post
can you guys just hive him a canadian player who speaks both french and english.

problem solved! ~_~
It's actually her .

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Because someone ask me for that in game, here are the rules :

Quote:
Nota : all the time period are giving in french hour, so GMT +1


Part One : The tournament

I) Tournament dates


Registrations will occur from December 20,2010 , to January 10, 2011

The tournament will be divided into two phases:
1. Ranking : from 17 to 30 january
2. Eliminations : from January 31 to February 6

If we get to 20 involved teams, we’ll go for 4 rounds per guild and dates will be spread as below :

First round : to be held on January 17, 1:00am and January 21, 1:00am
Second round : to be held on January 21, 1:00am and January 24, 1:00am
Third round : to be held on January 24, 1:00am and January 28, 1:00am
Fourth round : to be held on January 28, 1:00am and January 31, 1:00am

As for eliminations : with 20 guilds, we'll keep 8 of them :
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday for the 4 first rounds
Thirsday and Friday for the semi final
Saturday Sunday for the final to be held

II) Swiss system (just like MAT)

Two phases in the tournament :
1/ Ranking
2/ Eliminations

1/ Ranking :

Number of opponents to be defined, depending on the amount of registered guilds. We are currently based on 4 guilds, which means four rounds.
The following explains the ranking in case of four rounds, and we'll keep on that same plan should the number of rounds evolve.

a) Guilds tables :

For the first round: rankings are compared to the GW ladder for the registered guilds, then list is divided into two pieces, first one for the best guilds, second one for the other. Guild n°1 in table A will face guild n°1 in table B, then n°2 will face n°2, and so on...
For the second round and following : guilds will be ranked depending of their victories and loss in previous rounds
-> once first round is done : 2 tables (A1 & B1) respectively for those who have 1victory/0defeat and those who have 0v/1d
-> once second round is done : 4 tables (A2, B2, C2, D2), respectively for 2v/0d, 1v/1d (split in two), 0v/2d
-> once third round is done : 6 tables (A3, B3, C3, D3) for 3v/0d, 2v/1d (split in 2) 1v/2d (split in 2) and 0v/3d

We then rank the guilds in tables depending on the round duration :
-> For the tables with much more victories : faster round, better place
-> For the tables with much more defeats : longer round, better place

b) Definition of the opposing guilds :

-> For the second round : best in A1 will face best in B1, and so on...
-> For the third round : best in A2 will face best in B2, best in C2 will face best in C2, and so on...
-> For the fourth round : same thing, but with 6 tables.

c) if we get to a non-even amount of involved guilds :

Before the first round : one guild will be randomly chosen form the list. Once first round is done, it will be put in one of the tables (A1 or B1) depending of its ranking in the GW ladder and of the GW ladder ranking of the other guilds in this table.
Before second round : we choose the opposing teams, the guild left with no opponent will be exempted and put back in the tables of the follwing round, depending of its GW ladder ranking compared to the other guilds ranking
We'll keep proceeding like this for the next rounds.

2/ Eliminations :

Depending on the guilds at start, we'll pick the 4 or 8 (or 16, depending on the number of guilds, that will be fixed once registrations are done) better guilds.
The resulting list is sorted by ranks determinated from previous phase, then list is splitted into two, and the best ones of each list will face, and so on...

3/ Now, how to do if using that system, two guilds that already met have to face again ?

In the ranking phase : we'll invert two guilds that have almost the same ranking :
For ex. : if 2nd of A1 had to face the 2nd of B1 eventhough they already met in the first round, then 2nd of A1 will face 3rd of B1, and 3rd of A1 will face 2nd of B1.
In the elimination phases : if this case does occur, we'll let the guilds face again, that will give a chance to revenge.

4) Halls of guild

Guild Halls will be change at precise hours between matches (and how we'll make that, it will be say laters) :

Classement :
First changement : January 17, 1:00 am
Second changement : January 21, 1:00 am
Third changement : January 24, 1:00 am
Fourth changement : January 28, 1:00 am

Eliminations : Dans le cas de 8 guildes
Fifth changement : January 31, 1:00 am
Sixth Changement : February 03, 1:00 am
Seventh changement : February 05, 1:00 am

III) Guild players


A guild must have at least on player that speaks french.
A guild must play with at least four human players of the same guild
Players who are parts of "Mondes Guild Wars" can register in the tournament. They just can't be part of the referees of the rounds they are in.
It is accepted, in order to complete the team, to play with 4 guests, or the available NPC mercenaries in the hall.
Heroes are forbidden.

IV) Proof of victory or defeat

The two guilds have to put on the "Mondes Guild Wars" forum a screenshot of the end of the round, showing victory or defeat, name of the team's players, and duration.

V) Contestation

Any concern regarding the provided results or the guild provided screenshots must be done in the 24 hour following the end of the round. Teams must provide proof for their contestation.

VI) Sanctions

In case of a proved cheat, from the guild that provided fake results or from the guild that is contesting results, the tournament organizer reserve the right to force a replay or to disqualify the guild from the tournament.





Part Two : Guilds and players participation

I) Guild

1) Contact

In order for a guild to register into the tournament, it must by the way have a name, a tag and the capability to be contacted (IRC, ICQ, Vent, Teamspeak, forum, etc...)
A rep. must be given, and registered on the "Mondes Guild Wars" forum. He's required to go regularly on the forum, in order not to miss anything related to rounds or organization.
A miss of information cannot be given as excuse for round miss.

2) Registration of the guild

The registration to the tournament is done on the "Mondes Guild Wars" forum, by the guild representative.
The "*guild*" panel must be given as a screenshot using private message on the forum (to avoid account hacking), to the admin responsible of the tournament (Yniel) ; to be done at registration.
This screenshot must show at least for players that are part of the guild.

A guild that has only 4 members can register, but the 4 members must always be present (given that they are the core of the guild), while others can be wether guests, mercenaries or newer members enrrolled after the guild registration
If the guild has a lot of members, the first 4 given doesn't matter, given they were part of the guild at start. A guild can weither field 4 of its members plus 4 mercs/guests/newly arrived, weither field up to 8 players of its own. It also doesn't matter if the guild has enough to field two separate teams !

That way we get rid off connections and now often reduced timeframe problems. The aim is to get any guild to participate if it wants to, even if they don't have enough players to fulfill a team.

3) Representatives

The player responsible for the guild registration on the "Mondes Guild Wars" forum for the tournament is taken by default as rep for the guild if no one is clearly designed.

4) Communication system

Any voice system is accepted (for ex. BattleCom, Gamevoice, Teamspeak, Ventrilo, Mumble, etc...)

II) Players

1) Names

The game names of at least four players must be visbile on the guild panel provided at registration.

2) Age

The player by the time of registration must be at least 12 (© Guild Wars-Reglementation)

3) Language

Any nationality is accepted, given the guild includes at least one french speaking player.


Part Three : Complementary rules to the base organization

I) Rules

1) General : Obligation of respecting the rules

The rules hereby specified for the tournament are mandatory for the tounament participants. Registration implies that rules have been read, understood, and accepted (NdT: petit ajout qui me semblait approprié)

2)Modifications can be done in Guild Wars© rules, tournaments rules aren't definitive either.

Tournaments held by GW-Mondes Persistants are subject to change of rules by Arena-Net and Nc Soft.
Rules for "Mondes Guild Wars" tournament will be adapted for parts or totality in order to take any game data in consideration.
A change in the rules can be done during the tournament and is immediately relevant. Every modification in rules will be announced on the "Mondes Guild Wars" forum, in the publicly available section named "*Tournois*".

3) Secret :

Any private message content, from admin or regarding concern, are strictly confidential. Publication of those contents without approbation is forbidden.

II) Responsability of participants

1) Responsability of the tournament promoter (Mondes Guild Wars)

The promoter is responsabile for every tournament related operation, which includes :
Announce and promote the tournament sufficiently in advance
Provide the tournament supervision

2) Responsability for guilds/players

Players (and guilds) must follow the rules and directives established by Mondes Guild Wars.
Players/Guilds must always behave with respect and fair play towards other players and supervisors.
Players/Guilds cannot manipulate rankings. Manipulation means any action aiming at modify points and ranks in the ranking resulting from the fights between guilds. deliberately losing a round or asking the opponent to do so are examples of such manipulations, points and ranks being modified without any game occuring.
Should the rules be not respected, the concerned guilds will be excluded from tournament.
In cas of dispute between players/guilds, Mondes Guild Wars and its representatives reserve the right to take the final decision itselves as the last resort

3) Responsability of Guild Wars-Mondes Persistants representatives

During tournament, a "Mondes Guild Wars" Rep. can be present to ensure encounter dates and time constraints are respected, apply/interpret the rules, or apply penalties.
Mondes Guild Wars representatives are nominated from Mondes Guild Wars staff of admin, writers, moderators, graphists and developpers. Any people which present himself as Mondes Guild Wars representative must be able to provide the proof of it.
Mondes Guild Wars representatives must report to supervisors any warning disqualification or penalty given during the tournament, be it directly, or in the encounter sum up.
Mondes Guilde Wars representatives are also required to respect the rules established for the tournaments.

III) Tournament Operation

1) Guilds registration

Any guild that wants to register MUST have the minimal players in guild as authorized for the tournament.
During the registration the guild representative must provide the guild name and tag.
Only players (and accounts) registered on the the guild panel will be able to take part in the encounters hereby specified, as members of their guild. Others will be considered as guests.

2) Leaving or Joining a guild during tournament

For players, changinf from one guild to another during the tournament is accepted, however players joining a guild during tournament will be considered as guests.

3)Structure of a round

Rounds of this tournament are composed of a single battle.

4)Clocktime indications

Every given time refers to GMT+1, winter time clock in France.

5) Dates

a) Tournament dates are known and given at start of the registrations. They have to be imperatively respected.

b) Dates of encounters fixed for every battle, either by supervisors or by common decision of the teams involved, are know before the battle and must then also be imperatively respected. They also have to be annunced on the Mondes Guilde Wars forum.

6) Time restriction

Every team which isn't ready 15 minutes after the planified time for the battle to start will be declared loser by withdraw for this battle.

7) Guild Wars Campaigns used for the tournament

Every campaign is accepted

8) Accepted avatars

Players can use either roleplaying or PVP avatars. They can use any item their avatar can legitimately use ingame.
Guilds can switch players or change/modify avatars, but they have to keep the 4 players of the guild given at the time of registration.
If a guild is unable to fullfill a complete team of 8 players, it can decide to play with less than 8 and replace lacking members by Guild Wars NPC mercs. Their maximum number is given by rules specific to any tournament.
Heroes are forbidden.


9) Connection problems

In case of error 7 for one or many of the players during the countdown, the game as to be replayed.
In order to keep a fair play spirit, once the chronometer has been started, battle will be lead to an end eventhough an error 7 has occured.
In case of special conditions (game maintenance, restart ask by Arena-Net), after the the game was started, the game will be played again regardless of the way it begun.

10) Unsolved Disputes between players

In case of dispute, the Mondes Guild Wars team reserve the right to take the final decision. The decision will be taken having regard of screenshots taken during the fame by the different teams.

11) Special cases

Did any of the disposition specified in this rules present a gap or be not applicable, the efficiency of other dispositions or part of such dispositions will remain unchanged. In place of the inefficient or lacking dispositions, a special decision made by supervisors may become effective.

Annex I : players attitude

The Mondes Guild Wars representatives reserves the right to disqualify any guild if one or many of their players do behave against the sportive spirit, disturb the game of any player or guild, bring delays or brake in any manner the rules of this tournament.

Annex II : infractions to rules and punishment

1) Bug, bug exploit, prohibited software by Arena-Net

Any form of use of scripts or softwares that could influence the game are forbidden and sanctioned by exclusion. Should the tournament supervisors hear that a guild or player has taken unfair advantage using a bug or exploit, immediate measures would take place, every player and his guild risking immediate exclusion from the tournament for breaking the rule. Decision to do so will be taken by Tournament supervisors and judged depending of the size of the offense.

2) Effective offenses

Should an offense be seen, a private message has to be sent to the tournament supervisors using the Mondes Guild Wars forum private message system. A precise description of the incident, and proof of the offense must be given in the body of the message.
An offense must be submitted in the next 24 hours folowing the start fo the encounter.
An offense can only be submitted by private message to the tournament supervisors, in any way an offense should be made publicly available.
The supervisors will then ask the opposing side to take stance in front of those accusations. The opposing side will have a 48 hours delay by the time of the offense submit to do so.
If clear evidence of the offense is provided, then victory will be given regardless of the battle result and the concerned team be excluded from the tournament. The tournament supervisors reserves the right to exclude the concerned guild from other events and to inform the correspondant organization team of their behaviour.
Other offenses of other nature may also be submitted to the organization team, who will judge of their gravity, and take the decision to act or not depending of its judgement.

3) Free choice of Mondes Guild Wars representatives

The tournament supervisors reserves the right to exclude players or guilds from the tournament.
The tournament supervirors reserves the right to modify under special conditions the result of an encounter.
In cas of repeated or heavy offense, the organization reserves the right to take any necessary punishment.

And how to register :

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Registrations to the tournament will be open from December 20 to January 10.
Registering is easy, go to the forum entitled "GW1 - Tournois Mondes Guild Wars", specify in the topic that will be opened for this purpose on December 19th that your guild's gonna participate, then send a screenshot of you guild's panel to Yniel (below the nickname on top left, "Envoyer un message", "message privé", not "message visiteur" !) !

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Registration are open !

Go here for that : http://forums.mondespersistants.com/...post3830196550

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Some problems with the inscription on the "mondes persistants" forum, so registration are open till Wednesday, the 12 January !

Yniel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

We have reflect about this rule (one member french speaking) and it's give up.

You can register, having a french speaking member or not, but if you'll have some problems during the tournament, you have to contact a player speaking french for help you. We cant accept that you say, after, that you cant play matches because you cant understand your opponents.


I hoppe all will happend good .