Ok im sure everyone has saw that a lot of the CC shard rewards are now wintersday gift rewards.
wat does every1 think about wats going to happen to prices of the gifts, alcohol, party, and sweet pts?
obviously gift prices are going down but are the price per point going to go down aswell?
and was it a good move by Anet?
Discuss. no flaming plz and stay on topic
The new rewards
Lordshonsu
Marty Silverblade
Yeah, of course. More supply = lower prices. This just happened at Halloween. I sold a crapload of buff sugar before Halloween for 400g each, but if I tried to sell the same items now I'd get about 1/4 of that price.
mrmango
This is great. I forgot why I even wanted shards in the past.
Horace Slughorn
Ya I couldn't believe that Snowball Dominance had it's reward increased from 10 cc shards last year to 10 wintersday gifts this year.
I mean, it was quite a nice little farm already, but now it's just like... I dunno, too much? So little effort for such a high rewards seems like a good incentive to neglect the rest of the wintersday content (including the fun new repeatable quests).
I mean, it was quite a nice little farm already, but now it's just like... I dunno, too much? So little effort for such a high rewards seems like a good incentive to neglect the rest of the wintersday content (including the fun new repeatable quests).
NerfHerder
With GW2 in a year or so, I think its a good move. People that need the titles have easier access to consumable points. Event farmers who dont want/need the points will earn less gold. But, it will still be easy money.
dancing gnome
Best. Idea. Ever.
Well not ever, but a good idea. I didn't like the grindy nature of rewards, once they became titles (and titles became measured via HoM rewards) festival items became unfun, No longer did I pop them for the pleasure of popping them, I carefully hoarded and muled them onto my GWAMM toon so as not to waste them, or stacked them until I could sell them.
Bonus rewards makes actually questing and playing through content worthwhile in comparison to raptor farming or the like, much better outcome for me personally.
Well not ever, but a good idea. I didn't like the grindy nature of rewards, once they became titles (and titles became measured via HoM rewards) festival items became unfun, No longer did I pop them for the pleasure of popping them, I carefully hoarded and muled them onto my GWAMM toon so as not to waste them, or stacked them until I could sell them.
Bonus rewards makes actually questing and playing through content worthwhile in comparison to raptor farming or the like, much better outcome for me personally.
Hobbs
Hadn't heard about this. Time to Max Party methinks.
aspi
It's way, way too much. It was already too much last year, what gave them the bright idea to make it even more??
Horus Moonlight
Couldn't care either way.
Necrin Blaed
3 hours of SD farming yielded over 1500 party points from gifts alone and about 500 sweet tooth points. I've also got 1.5 stacks of eggnog and 1 stack of spiked and a lot of candy canes too.
And we've got two weeks to take advantage of all this? I could max Party, Sweet Tooth, and Drunkard in two days of straight farming...
(well Drunkard would take a little more time, but the alcohol would be there)
And we've got two weeks to take advantage of all this? I could max Party, Sweet Tooth, and Drunkard in two days of straight farming...
(well Drunkard would take a little more time, but the alcohol would be there)
distilledwill
Meh, the easier it is for me to get my hands on sweets, party items and booze the better. I'm not a big money maker, I just want to max the titles before GW2 comes around.
MithranArkanere
I will make the quests anyways. Who doesn't enjoy killing humbugs?
Well, excepting the oldest ones in LA. I don't really need any more candy offhands. Most of my heroes with an offhand slot they don't use have one of those in them.
Well, excepting the oldest ones in LA. I don't really need any more candy offhands. Most of my heroes with an offhand slot they don't use have one of those in them.
naughteblonde
I think its a good idea, obviously as there both older and new players right now who are working on their HOM.
For older players its a much quicker way of maxing sweet tooth/drunkard/party animal and adding more then the 30 points to their HOM.
For newer players, this may be their first major ingame event which will bring in a fair bit of cash and consumables allowing them to make inroads into the 30 points min as well as presenting GW as a fun and profitable form of gameplay (so buy GW2 dagnabbit!)
For older players its a much quicker way of maxing sweet tooth/drunkard/party animal and adding more then the 30 points to their HOM.
For newer players, this may be their first major ingame event which will bring in a fair bit of cash and consumables allowing them to make inroads into the 30 points min as well as presenting GW as a fun and profitable form of gameplay (so buy GW2 dagnabbit!)
Kumu Honua
Only question I have...
Is the festival hat going to require candy cane shards in the quantity of 250 still?....
Is the festival hat going to require candy cane shards in the quantity of 250 still?....
Tom Swift
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Only question I have...
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TheGizzy
I don't know what it was like last year, but coming at this from the perspective of a newbie, I've got to say that I was really thrilled when I received 10 gifts instead of 10 candy cane shards my first time through SD.
For me, the whole "mystery" of "what will my next click bring?" is a big deal. Yes, I know it's going to be one of several specific items... but which one? How many of XYZ will I get out of this batch? How long before I make my first stack of ABC?
It's also a big boost in terms of working towards HOM stuff. I started collecting the requisite trophies for Wintersday items around Halloween, because someone suggested I do so. So I was ready with those to trade to the collectors right away... between that, and the gift rewards, and what I'm finding in random drops, I'm well on my way to amassing enough of these items to be able to go for my titles.
As a newbie, I don't have a bunch of platinum to blow buying stacks of sweet/party/alcohol points from others.
Plus, finding the various candy canes in my presents is also a pretty big deal... I'm still new, my character isn't uber buff, neither are my heroes. We do alright, and I'm learning, but I still rack up DP in many areas I want or need to do... having a nice stock of the various candy canes has some important impact on my overall game play. Those peppermint candy canes seem, to me, like bordering on mana from heaven... knowing that if I put lots of time into an area and rack up the DP in the process, I don't just have to give up and start from scratch. I can keep working at it until I get it right, or recognize that my build sucks and CHOOSE to leave.
So yeah, I'm pretty pleased with the setup... it's EXCITING for me! I'm geeked about the possibilities... and I don't feel like I'm just grinding away for nothing.
For me, the whole "mystery" of "what will my next click bring?" is a big deal. Yes, I know it's going to be one of several specific items... but which one? How many of XYZ will I get out of this batch? How long before I make my first stack of ABC?
It's also a big boost in terms of working towards HOM stuff. I started collecting the requisite trophies for Wintersday items around Halloween, because someone suggested I do so. So I was ready with those to trade to the collectors right away... between that, and the gift rewards, and what I'm finding in random drops, I'm well on my way to amassing enough of these items to be able to go for my titles.
As a newbie, I don't have a bunch of platinum to blow buying stacks of sweet/party/alcohol points from others.
Plus, finding the various candy canes in my presents is also a pretty big deal... I'm still new, my character isn't uber buff, neither are my heroes. We do alright, and I'm learning, but I still rack up DP in many areas I want or need to do... having a nice stock of the various candy canes has some important impact on my overall game play. Those peppermint candy canes seem, to me, like bordering on mana from heaven... knowing that if I put lots of time into an area and rack up the DP in the process, I don't just have to give up and start from scratch. I can keep working at it until I get it right, or recognize that my build sucks and CHOOSE to leave.
So yeah, I'm pretty pleased with the setup... it's EXCITING for me! I'm geeked about the possibilities... and I don't feel like I'm just grinding away for nothing.
FoxBat
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For me, the whole "mystery" of "what will my next click bring?" is a big deal. Yes, I know it's going to be one of several specific items... but which one? How many of XYZ will I get out of this batch? How long before I make my first stack of ABC?
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Giving 10 gifts per the non-repeatable quests would be a fine boost for "noobies." 10 per a 1-minute farm for experts is the exact opposite of that; it just makes those noobies 10 gifts worthless.
Damian Greenthumb
For those who think SD rewards are too great I suggest that you boycott that repeatable quest and stick to the others
I'll continue grinding for my sweet/party points in SD though!
I'll continue grinding for my sweet/party points in SD though!
TheGizzy
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it just makes those noobies 10 gifts worthless.
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ogre_jd
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It's not all that thrilling when you're opening 1000+ presents at a time, with no rare rewards like mini availiable in them. Which is what you will be doing after very little time with this quest.
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mrmango
I gotta get on this, push my Party title up at least.
Braxton619
Snowball Dominance
Farm it. More details are on wiki.
Farm it. More details are on wiki.
yitjuan
the great thing is there will be plenty of casuals who will end up halfway to max Party , then they have a choice whether to buy their way to max title or not.
Life Bringing
I dont understand why everyone is complaining about the increased rewards. For years people have complained that the costs to get these titles is too high. The change in rewards benefits those who are actually pursuing the title without benefiting those grinding the quests for cash.
Supply goes up, demand goes down, price goes down. Simple economics.
Supply goes up, demand goes down, price goes down. Simple economics.
NerfHerder
I'm pretty sure the increased rewards are for players to max their titles, not help you get rich.
Even though Frosty Tonics/Wintersday Gifts will be dirt cheap, you will still be able to make a few hundred platinum just from farming(SD) an hour or two a day during this event. That still leaves plenty of time for the other enjoyable wintersday festivities, which also give you rewards.
Even though Frosty Tonics/Wintersday Gifts will be dirt cheap, you will still be able to make a few hundred platinum just from farming(SD) an hour or two a day during this event. That still leaves plenty of time for the other enjoyable wintersday festivities, which also give you rewards.
Zenzai
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Never did - that is the dragon festival (well you could get one for 125 i believe - but it was not required. It was part of the redux I think. The one at the finale was free)
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Bazed
Must.Get.Home.To my computer to Chris Brown this farm.
Missing HB
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Originally Posted by Life Bringing
I dont understand why everyone is complaining about the increased rewards. For years people have complained that the costs to get these titles is too high. The change in rewards benefits those who are actually pursuing the title without benefiting those grinding the quests for cash.
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Remember people who did r12 kurzic in AB compared to farming easily MTSC now.
Remember for festive items and compare to this quest now ...
Remember for gold items and compare it to raptor or vaettir farm( ok but that's older though)...
What i mean is that it's more likely centering people on playing alone instead of team. Instead of trading , people now rather go play either their sc area without talking at all , either complete their title on their own ( future with 7 heroes too..) . What is gonna be next , some scroll to complete directly HM area??
helloeveryone
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Originally Posted by Life Bringing
I dont understand why everyone is complaining about the increased rewards. For years people have complained that the costs to get these titles is too high. The change in rewards benefits those who are actually pursuing the title without benefiting those grinding the quests for cash.
Supply goes up, demand goes down, price goes down. Simple economics. |
shure
Rewards you get from wintersday gifts are worth less, but you get 5x more gifts per quest. Where is the problem?
aspi
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Rewards you get from wintersday gifts are worth less, but you get 5x more gifts per quest. Where is the problem?
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A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by aspi
Worthless? Made a couple of milion last year from them, how is that worthless.
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Spiritz
Way i see it after a few years of wintersday - farming sd for ccs started to get boring after a while because i was going after gifts.Gifts as a reward i feel is better as it cuts down the grind as i get the gifts i need.
Tom Swift
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Last time I checked, you needed at least one shard to participate in the x-mas finalle and get the hat, but still.
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MithranArkanere
You can get one shard from the kids in the area when you give them a gift (excepting from one in LA, that gives green wintersday gifts) or from a drop or winning a snowball fight.
There's no problem with changing the rewards to gifts.
There's no problem with changing the rewards to gifts.
Wrath of m0o
Working on GWAMM #2
This is much appreciated.
Now, if we could do something about z-keys.
The zaishen title is killing me, r7 O_o
This is much appreciated.
Now, if we could do something about z-keys.
The zaishen title is killing me, r7 O_o
aspi
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There's a space in there that you missed, and it makes a big difference in the meaning of the post.
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Todoni
from what I remember...for the Grenth versus Dwayne contest on Jan 01, we need CC shards to play. If your circle lost, you lost your cc shard. If your circle won, you gained some shards. Plus playing once gained a hat. So I did once for Dwayna, and once for Grenth, then parked myself in a circle for the remainder of the 24 hour period. I think I needed about 45 shards to ensure I had enough to tide me over during a losing streak. Then the next day, went and turned in all my shards for rainbow candy or whatever. But...I didn't take notes, so this is just an estimate.
Tom Swift
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Originally Posted by Todoni
from what I remember...for the Grenth versus Dwayne contest on Jan 01, we need CC shards to play. If your circle lost, you lost your cc shard. If your circle won, you gained some shards. Plus playing once gained a hat. So I did once for Dwayna, and once for Grenth, then parked myself in a circle for the remainder of the 24 hour period. I think I needed about 45 shards to ensure I had enough to tide me over during a losing streak. Then the next day, went and turned in all my shards for rainbow candy or whatever. But...I didn't take notes, so this is just an estimate.
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A11Eur0
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You do need shards to play but you do not need to play to get the hat. you just need to be in the district at the time the hats are given out.
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