Keiran in the Hall of Monuments
karen the healer
Can Kerian be placed or scanned in to the Hall of Monuments Fellowship Monument as a Hero? I tried but it did not work. Does he take some special armour reminant or something? If this has been asked before, forgive me.
Aycee
No, he can not.
Gabriel of Ravn
My guess is since he was just added as a hero they haven't added support for him to be placed in HoM. Not that I've tried I just keep hearing people complain about this and this is the first logical conclusion I came to.
Acehole2006
People complain but im 99% sure that this is what they intended to happen, no support or armor upgrades.
Edo123
He can't be added atm, but in future GW prolly give him some updates so he MIGHT just MIGHT get be allowed to be put in HoM ^^
FoxBat
More like YOU will be placed in Keiran Thackeray's Hall of Monuments. 
dasmitchies
It is irrelevant. HOM calculator maxes with the other heroes.
Darcy
Does he have an armor upgrade available? You can't add any hero unless you have upgraded their armor.
Marty Silverblade
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Originally Posted by Darcy
Does he have an armor upgrade available? You can't add any hero unless you have upgraded their armor.
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caballo_oscuro
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
MOX doesn't have an armor upgrade, yet is able is be added to the HoM. And no, he doesn't have any armor upgrades. When/if he's addable, he'll be listed in the HoM calculator.
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"Unlike other heroes, M.O.X. has no alternate armor sets. Its default armor set is already a prestige armor set, since a statue for M.O.X. becomes available in the Hall of Monuments when M.O.X. is unlocked. "
But there hasn't been any mention that Keiran will ever be added to the HOM. The calculator is still officially in beta though so it might still change. The idea of the fellowship monument was that you could display your favourite heroes so it's still possible it'll be added in the future...
FengShuiDove
I wouldn't expect anything from this point forward to be included in the HoM. If we get new armors, weapons, heroes, etc., from Winds of Change or future GW:B stuff, I wouldn't expect it to go in the HoM.
SpyderArachnid
Gotta remember that the HoM Calculator is in beta stages at the moment still. So it is subject to change.
So if they do add more stuff in the future, it could be likely that they do add it to the HoM.
So if they do add more stuff in the future, it could be likely that they do add it to the HoM.
dancing gnome
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
MOX doesn't have an armor upgrade, yet is able is be added to the HoM. And no, he doesn't have any armor upgrades. When/if he's addable, he'll be listed in the HoM calculator.
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It would be so clean and simple if MOX was never allowed to be added to the HoM (seeing as you don't actually do anything to get him, let alone use a hero armour on him).
As far as people saying it maxes without Keiran... there are many monuments which max without adding everything possible... in fact the hero monument is the only one which required one of every hero at the time to be added (technically it didn't count all possible hero armours though, just as long as each hero had at least one). I think the monouments are there own assets and it would bother me if they had to dedicate considerable time to create one for Keiran just so he could be added (it also sets a precent for players to constantly expect future heroes to be counted by the HoM).
If they do make Keiran count for a monument I hope they just create some generic monument which could be applied to all future heroes (I'm assuming hero monuments take considerable time which could be better spent elsewhere).
Exhibit A
I doubt making a statue would take a huge amount of time. It's not like they're creating an entirely new model, just applying a new texture to the Keiran model, scaling it up, and posing it.
Darcy
M.O.X. doesn't wear any armor so therefore couldn't have an armor upgrade. I don't see Keiran running around naked, so I would believe he might have an armor upgrade.
FoxBat
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Originally Posted by Darcy
M.O.X. doesn't wear any armor so therefore couldn't have an armor upgrade. I don't see Keiran running around naked, so I would believe he might have an armor upgrade.
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The bottom line is they didn't want to design an alternate look for Mox, who was basically a replica of existing golem models. They already made alternate colorations to cover the avatars. To be distinct yet again from that, they'd actually have to alter his model - much as armor does for players. Not only that, but they they have to establish which NPC he gets his upgrades from and with which armor type.
If Keiran does get some prestige armor, it's probably going to be some existing player armor or #$! costumes - keep in mind the latter is the only thing they get to borrow artists for from the GW2 team. This they can do easily because like most humans, his skeleton is the same as a certain player class. Maybe it's part of their plan for WoC rewards, as it's implied WoC will also be offering more hero(s).
MisterB
This link is relevant to this thread.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...ckeray_and_HoM
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...ckeray_and_HoM
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Originally Posted by John Stumme
He'll go in there at some point. Technically, the Thackenator already has alternate armor sets ready to go (Groom, Battle Damaged) but the limitation is that we don't have art for him to appear as a statue, and the HoM calculator/site would need to be updated to account for him being there.
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cosyfiep
so the answer is :
at this time you can not add him,
this may change in the future.
at this time you can not add him,
this may change in the future.
dancing gnome
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep
so the answer is :
at this time you can not add him, this may change in the future. |
As much as I like his new look I liked the old one.
Sarevok Thordin
I doubt he'll be added, the HoM calculator is kinda completed for that monument, unless they just want to make it easier.
Rushin Roulette
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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin
I doubt he'll be added, the HoM calculator is kinda completed for that monument, unless they just want to make it easier.
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Lasai
Why would we need a statue of this over rated moron now that he is a permanent fixture in my HOM.
Every day I hate him more.
I have every other hero, my fellowship is full, 30 statues.. and I will NEVER add this nonentity to it.
The only appropriate hero armor for him anyway would be an apron with the logo "Yes Dear" on it.
Every day I hate him more.
I have every other hero, my fellowship is full, 30 statues.. and I will NEVER add this nonentity to it.
The only appropriate hero armor for him anyway would be an apron with the logo "Yes Dear" on it.
Tom Swift
I doubt they want to listen to people complain if they raise the point system over 50 or take away a point because K. brings the total number of companion statues to 31.
I sort of suspect that what they will do is continue to give you 8 companion points at 30 statues and K. will mean that there will be one spare (rather like the extra titles you don't have to get for max points or the fact you don't have to get every single oppressor/tormented weapons for max)
I sort of suspect that what they will do is continue to give you 8 companion points at 30 statues and K. will mean that there will be one spare (rather like the extra titles you don't have to get for max points or the fact you don't have to get every single oppressor/tormented weapons for max)
dancing gnome
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Originally Posted by Tom Swift
I doubt they want to listen to people complain if they raise the point system over 50 or take away a point because K. brings the total number of companion statues to 31.
I sort of suspect that what they will do is continue to give you 8 companion points at 30 statues and K. will mean that there will be one spare (rather like the extra titles you don't have to get for max points or the fact you don't have to get every single oppressor/tormented weapons for max) |
A11Eur0
Too lazy to get Razah and an armor for him? Here's Keiran. No thanks.
FoxBat
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Too lazy to get Razah and an armor for him? Here's Keiran. No thanks.
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A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by FoxBat
Keiran takes a *ton* more effort to get than Razah + Armor.
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Daesu
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Originally Posted by Lasai
The only appropriate hero armor for him anyway would be an apron with the logo "Yes Dear" on it.
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Lest121
So i completed this out of boredom got my hero who will never be used....
A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by Lest121
So i completed this out of boredom got my hero who will never be used....
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Three necs, two rits, mesmer and monk I assume will be your party when 7-heroes goes live. Oh well, he'll be used by others. so sorry you wasted your precious game time.
Lest121
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Too busy with necros and rits, then?
Three necs, two rits, mesmer and monk I assume will be your party when 7-heroes goes live. Oh well, he'll be used by others. so sorry you wasted your precious game time. |
PS:Anet hurry the F up with GW2, my Hall is at 47/50 won't grind for 50/50.
Xiaquin
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Originally Posted by Lest121
I stop playing this game for 2+ years, came back in September and got bored in the beginning of December, gonna take another long break, I got him out of pure boredom, this is why he will never be played, but whatever off to play some Runes of Magic.
PS:Anet hurry the F up with GW2, my Hall is at 47/50 won't grind for 50/50. |
Daesu
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Too busy with necros and rits, then?
Three necs, two rits, mesmer and monk I assume will be your party when 7-heroes goes live. Oh well, he'll be used by others. so sorry you wasted your precious game time. |
Sure a new rit hero would be more useful, but at least a paragon hero is not as useless as an assassin hero.
FoxBat
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paragon heroes can't detect if their line-of-sight is blocked by an obstacle and to go around.
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Aside from this and their current (and unwanted) penchant for recasting aggressive unless you micro, paras do not have overwhelming AI problems. They follow your targets exactly and the class is largely spamming shouts on recharge. The bottom line is the single-target spear damage output, which you also can't buff with SoH, is not that impressive, so their viability is largely reduced to their shouts.
A11Eur0
Well I use Keiran as a ranger, with shouts. I don't use him as a spear para. I guess I'm the smart one.
Daesu
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This is a very ironic complaint to bring up versus ritualists. I do mind edges when running spirit spam heroes and flag them sometimes for the same issue. It's less of a problem even for paras since you don't necessarily have to flag them before the spirits are summoned. Either way in most zones it just isn't an issue very often and easily fixed when it is.
Aside from this and their current (and unwanted) penchant for recasting aggressive unless you micro, paras do not have overwhelming AI problems. They follow your targets exactly and the class is largely spamming shouts on recharge. The bottom line is the single-target spear damage output, which you also can't buff with SoH, is not that impressive, so their viability is largely reduced to their shouts. |
Maybe someone would find a good use for a 3-paragons team when we get the 7-heroes update, but right now I would rather have a MM or spirit spammer than an extra paragon in my team.
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Well I use Keiran as a ranger, with shouts. I don't use him as a spear para. I guess I'm the smart one.
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A11Eur0
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So it is a combination of the flawed AI and current weak spear DPS. As for shouts, you can already cover most of the useful shouts in command and motivation with the 2 paragons.
Maybe someone would find a good use for a 3-paragons team when we get the 7-heroes update, but right now I would rather have a MM or spirit spammer than an extra paragon in my team. Except bow damage is quite underwhemling also and the AI auto attacks way too much instead of using skills. |
Daesu
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Volley with buffs says hi. He can get more adrenaline than a spear para with soldier's fury to keep up adrenal shouts, which is all he's got. He gets energy from those shouts to fuel his attacks. He does it just fine. Try it some time.
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Maybe in the future someone would find a use for him as the third paragon in a 7-heroes team, but now he is useless.
yitjuan
I'm tempted to make an 8 player Spear .
ER Prot Monk , using Spirit of the Forgotten
Spirit Strength Rit
Pack Hunter
3 man Racway
JQ Mo/P with ROJ and spears
ER Prot Monk , using Spirit of the Forgotten
Spirit Strength Rit
Pack Hunter
3 man Racway
JQ Mo/P with ROJ and spears
Wrath of m0o
I'm just happy to have him on the 3 characters i've unlocked him on, love him to death. Looks forward to seeing his grandchildren in GW2, wonders who's eyes theyll have.
Still having hard time with 8 man paraway, but it adds a new twist and a new challenge. Again TY for Keiran, im not stopping untill i have him 11 times <3.
Still having hard time with 8 man paraway, but it adds a new twist and a new challenge. Again TY for Keiran, im not stopping untill i have him 11 times <3.