Ladder is Frozen.

xhappy feetx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Isle of the Nameless

Black Crescent [BC] / Stonebenders [sC] / The Rimmers [rR]

W/E

This hasn't happened without being announced ever, and the last time it happened was 3 years ago, what is going on?

o.O?

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Might have something to do with daily AT's giving 2000 as the year

xhappy feetx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Isle of the Nameless

Black Crescent [BC] / Stonebenders [sC] / The Rimmers [rR]

W/E

Tolkano is completely messed up and bugged, this is bad

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Y2K redux?

.......

Delete HB Already

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2009

none of yo business

W/Mo

Well this explains why top 100 guilds on obs were running henchway ~_~

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

I'm still questioning the necessity of freezing the ladder for what looks to be a simple AT scheduling bug.

Also, why has there not been some kind of announcement about it yet?

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
I'm still questioning the necessity of freezing the ladder for what looks to be a simple AT scheduling bug.

Also, why has there not been some kind of announcement about it yet?

could have something to do with the short staff they keep at this time of the year.....but yeah they should have someone looking at it by now.

Simath

Simath

haha you're dumb

Join Date: Jul 2005

Moscow

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
I'm still questioning the necessity of freezing the ladder for what looks to be a simple AT scheduling bug.

Also, why has there not been some kind of announcement about it yet?
I'm still questioning why they had to permanently remove the XTH, and since I'm never going to get an answer, I'll just assume it's a combination of laziness and sucking.

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

Eh, holiday season.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simath View Post
I'm still questioning why they had to permanently remove the XTH, and since I'm never going to get an answer, I'll just assume it's a combination of laziness and sucking.
The whole system turned out to be a messy pile of crap, something crapped out last summer... or summer before, and instead of fixing the database and so on they just said "meh, GW ain't bringing cash anymore, let's ditch this thing".

And ditch they did hard.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Welcome to Guild Wars.

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simath View Post
I'm still questioning why they had to permanently remove the XTH, and since I'm never going to get an answer, I'll just assume it's a combination of laziness and sucking.
That's exactly all the point.Many questions we will probably never get an answer ( Codex arena being one of them..)
I'm not even sure they noticed the bug yet , but i hope it will be fixed fast , considering GvG was maybe the only competitive format left >>

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
why has there not been some kind of announcement about it yet?
Uhm... anyone?

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artisan Archer View Post
Uhm... anyone?
Seriously, I'll take a "we had a huge clock counting down to this moment and wanted to see what would happen" answer at this point.

Seems really unorthodox for something like this to happen with no announcement or notice at all.

moongod

moongod

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

P4n드4k트 F0rm4710n [Its heat not cheat]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
Also, why has there not been some kind of announcement about it yet?
Wintersday vacation.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Quote:
Originally Posted by moongod View Post
Wintersday vacation.
Ladder freezes don't happen by accident.

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
Ladder freezes don't happen by accident.
For once i do believe it's accident though. I wouldn't see the logic at doing a ladder reset/freeze on purpose at the point of the game , except if they're going to re-define whole GvG system..

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Missing HB View Post
For once i do believe it's accident though. I wouldn't see the logic at doing a ladder reset/freeze on purpose at the point of the game , except if they're going to re-define whole GvG system..
They didn't freeze the ladder when they changed the VoD tie breaker to lord damage. They haven't frozen the ladder for 3 years.

I wouldn't mind a complimentary reset or anything, this historic ladder thing is getting old fast and you have to admit that the ladder is more active now than it was before, matches almost instantly.


But tbh they could decide to keep the ladder frozen since you know, it's 'broken' and the way Anet deals with broken things is remove them from the game...

Grand Theft Ecto

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Mo/

Playing gvg on ladder is +0 and -0
Playing Automated Tournaments still has the k value of 25 and rating (and rank) is changed, these also still award reward points and qualifier points.
Balthazar faction and wintersday gifts are awarded in both ladder and ATs.
Champion points are not awarded in ladder nor in ATs.

So this frozen ladder would seem like either a fix to stop syncing, it certainly works, or an accident. Unless people are syncing to get wintersday gifts, then its a fail on both sides.

Find this a silly solution.

xhappy feetx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Isle of the Nameless

Black Crescent [BC] / Stonebenders [sC] / The Rimmers [rR]

W/E

Anet back to work tomorrow, hopefully something will be done.

Leman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xhappy feetx View Post
Anet back to work tomorrow, hopefully something will be done.
Wintersday ends tomorrow.

Otello

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

any news?

12 char

Sirius Bsns

Banned

Join Date: May 2010

PonG

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artisan Archer View Post
But tbh they could decide to keep the ladder frozen since you know, it's 'broken' and the way Anet deals with broken things is remove them from the game...
You made me chuckle with that one.

On topic though, it actually does seem that a bug is likely, but then again who knows, right? It could be that they're on vacation time and just said, " **** it, GW1 is dead anyway, and we're no longer raking in any money from it, sooooo........... yeeeaaaa....... /care".

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Wow, no response on this still? You'd think this would be a top priority issue.

Good to see that nothing's changed in my absence.

Still Number One

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

W/

We did such a good job at getting the community involved and interested in GvG, so A.Net decided to do thier part and eliminate rank discrimination in GvG once and for all!!!

xhappy feetx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Isle of the Nameless

Black Crescent [BC] / Stonebenders [sC] / The Rimmers [rR]

W/E

Ladder unfrozen.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Still no statement, though, not even off the record.

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

I've been told it was frozen last year as well? Maybe just some code they forgot to turn off?

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artisan Archer View Post
I've been told it was frozen last year as well? Maybe just some code they forgot to turn off?
afaik, it hasn't been frozen for 3 years.

Simath

Simath

haha you're dumb

Join Date: Jul 2005

Moscow

We are waiting for answers, or at the very least some sort of acknowledgment.

Grand Theft Ecto

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Mo/

DTC and cOre decided to play silly builds on an unfrozen ladder yes.


A1: lots of complaints about botting
A2: no response from Anet
R: surprise update with a huge fix and CR bombardment

B1: seemingly random ladder freeze, with 'achievement service disabled', complaints
B2: no response from Anet
R: ?

Even though A doesn't equal B, one can hope!

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grand Theft Ecto View Post
DTC and cOre decided to play silly builds on an unfrozen ladder yes.


A1: lots of complaints about botting
A2: no response from Anet
R: surprise update with a huge fix and CR bombardment

B1: seemingly random ladder freeze, with 'achievement service disabled', complaints
B2: no response from Anet
R: ?

Even though A doesn't equal B, one can hope!
Anet doesn't respond to to issues more often than not. Trying to compare two completely unrelated events separated by many months is moronic at best.

Grand Theft Ecto

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ErrantVenture View Post
Anet doesn't respond to to issues more often than not. Trying to compare two completely unrelated events separated by many months is moronic at best.
How rude, you seem upset? As pvp is on the nomination to get a general update, and the ladder doesn't just randomly freeze (or does it?); it is entirely conceivable that the accidental gvg change is related to an upcoming update.

In both cases the effects are quite major, and the lack of information is odd. We'll see what happens.

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grand Theft Ecto View Post
How rude, you seem upset? As pvp is on the nomination to get a general update, and the ladder doesn't just randomly freeze (or does it?); it is entirely conceivable that the accidental gvg change is related to an upcoming update.

In both cases the effects are quite major, and the lack of information is odd. We'll see what happens.
The lack of information isn't odd, in fact it's the norm. Don't get excited, more likely than not there was a minor server issue that caused the problem.

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

There was a bug with the ladder in the ATs, and it has been corrected according to our server team. We're sorry about the confusion and inconvenience.

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
There was a bug with the ladder in the ATs, and it has been corrected according to our server team. We're sorry about the confusion and inconvenience.
Not the most satisfying answer, but it's better than nothing. Thanks Regina.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
There was a bug with the ladder in the ATs
Oddly enough, the ATs were the one place where the Ladder was working correctly.

Do you have any further explanation of what happened?