Doa V.S Uwsc (which for money)

I do T1 in Uwsc and currently have gotten 100+ ectos from it....

I'm getting bord cause im saving up for Ele Obi armor

I heard you can do Doasc also, and i was wondering which is better for money

considering Cash v. hardness

DoA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UWSC

With a decent guild you can get at least 1 brace + drops a day. Much more consistent for money imo.

but then again imo, you dont SC for money

thanks! appreciate it ...more answers!

DoASC= An armbrace every 3-4 runs (ish) (about 3-4 hours worth of work).

UW: T-Way= On average 2 Ectos every hour (no to mention the failure rate)... And IF you get lucky you'll get a CC or Mini Dhuum or something that changes the statistics, but anything decent drops so rarely that you shouldn't be farming in hopes of getting one of those items.

DoA handsdown....100k every 1hr-2hr.

DoA>>>> All other SC's, I did doa with some great guilds, one run in hm took from 30 - 45min, i farmed 2-3 braces ea day.

doa sc(not crappy dwg build)

DoA, not the shitty DwG thing, but an actual speed clear.

Ok, I am in a DoASC guild, the #2 atm, untill we match Zraw's 24min, but I think we're getting there eventually.

You usually get 60k per DoASC run, which on a casual run can take anywhere between 40 and 55 minutes, depending on fails sometimes, or people lagging behind, dc's sometimes etc.

It should take you 3 runs to get an armbrace, on average, since you also should get some drops. And we do runs from about 8pm GMT+1 (sometimes earlier) until the late American hours, since we have a both European and American active member base. You can easily get an armbrace in 1 day, if you are active in the guild. I usually do 2-4 runs per day, depending on how much time I have. Having a bit of UWSC experience, I have to say I don't like it. It takes long, carries a very big fail rate, and can take very very long with the slightest fail.
In short: DoASC>>>>>>>...>>>>>>>UWSC for money. I think I've gotten like 1000e already from being in this guild, and that's from about end of august (was in Gingerbread first, then LOD and Gingerbread merged to get LOD大 end of september somewhere). So, I dunno how long you've been doing to get the 100e, but you'd have gotten the fivefold of it doing DoASC I think.

The most important part about DoASC is that you get a solid droprate, you know what you'll get. In UWSC you have the small chance of getting something nice..

Oh, and I'm of course also talking about DoASC in the real sense of the word. If you're thinking about DwG, you might as well shoot yourself in the foot or something, because that's about the feeling you'll get doing that.

1 DoA farm run = 1/3 armbrace = 8e (not including drops) in ~40mins in a fast guild or ~1hour in slower one.
1 UW run = ~3e (not including drops) in ~30min in fast guild or ~45min in slower one

DoA wins despite the appalling price of armbraces today. DoA also has several zbounties that you can get for extra cash.

Assuming we don't go lower than 24min ^^

Meh, they'll find something to match it And you know fissure wouldn't be able to sleep until he's matched you And Mike's pride wouldn't let him be the lower one either

Also, we forgot Primeval Remnants. You should get ~15 until you stop getting any regularly, which will kind of force you to do mallyx again, so that's an extra couple ecto's you get too (I sell em for 1e ea, so) After you killed mallyx you get like 2-3/run, which will narrow down to 0-1 after like 5 more runs and eventually you'll stop getting any overall.

Thanks guys!

thinking about getting my monk to doa and being HB monk, think i should?

Since the private message you sent me I'd say don't run Frostway, it's not a SC, cause it doesn't involve speed..

A monk is good, a mesmer is mandatory and an ele for bonder, if you got those, apply to a DoASC guild and you'll get moneys in no time

DwG is bad mmkay. It wont help you get into a good doasc guild either. I know when I am reviewing an app, experience in a real doasc helps, but i look for a lot more things than experience. Dont sell yourself short and go dwg.

So whud i do the doA heroway build?

You don't really seem to get it... There are ways of doing DoA besides DwG, you know.. And they aren't even difficult, they just require coordination. Guilds like ours and Zraw do DoA in casual runs anywhere between 35 (in Zraw's case) and 55 minutes. The average European runs with us lies somewhere between 45 and 55 minutes, because there are also a lot of new people who slow us down. Or just bad luck sometimes too. The American runs are more like 35-45 like Zraws's.

If you want to do real DoASC, I advise you get a mesmer, a monk and an ele to DoA, and make an assassin. The ssin doesn't have to go to DoA straight away, you won't be tanking any time soon anyways.

Don't be afraid that you won't be able to do it, there are people to teach you, and we take people without experience all the time. I do advise you to do at least a couple DwGs to learn your way around in DoA, because NEVER having been there isn't a good thing

Check this page for more info: http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_DoA_Trenchway (we run slightly different tactics though)

I would say even DwG or Heroway DoA is better money than UWSC, even if you help pay for cons. Finding a good SC group is even better.

Hey im curious what is the best sc build could anyone please explain to me or post me a link to the team build thanks, Plus if anyone in a doasc guild looking for people ill jion i have had alot of exp with previous types of doasc thanks

I am not one of the Guild Wars elite in this thread, and can't say that I've ever cleared DoA in 24 minutes.

But I have been involved in normal mode DwG or "Glaiveway" pugs and hard mode "Frostway" pugs (I usually do the ST role, it's lots of fun for me) -- and I have had success, fun, and tons of loot from the DoA groups that I've been in.

So, to counter the disdain in this thread for DwG-style groups, it's not all that bad. I've had a few fun afternoons doing these, and have 6 tormented weapons to show for it. Good times.

Definitely don't need to run trenchway to get good money from DoA. DWG is popular, especially during zaishen bounties...and it's easy. It's not hard to get into a SC guild with the right game experience, but it's hard to be trusted enough to run a role in such an elitist-filled system.

I don't think we ever rejected an application based on experience. We know people can't be as experienced as some of us, and we all had to learn it ourselves. The high-end guilds have a couple of requirements they want you to meet (certain professions with certain ranks, certain PvE skills etc.) and if you have those, they will trial you, and if you show potential i.e. if you're able to listen to directions, you shouldn't be in any trouble getting in any guild. If you however show total lack of understanding of how your skills work (for example, cast Backfire on a melee target) and use your build bad, or are slow on every spike and show no potential to improve over an extended period of time, then you will eventually be rejected.

So, please, don't depict us as being elitists who look down upon people that aren't as experienced as us, because we aren't, we always give people the chance to learn and improve.

as a monk i love doa over uw anyday, doa I can jump into a pug dwg group and finish the thing, try that in uw and like me u will still be waiting to finish the damn area off.

Is nice to see the elte Doa guilds give advice and respect too thouse of us that just play for fun,unlike the idots in TOA ,if u arent a pro go away is there most usefull help.

So in All Doa is better for everyone to make money on and alos alot more fun as if u are pro u go hard or if not u can get along and still do an elete area and accually feel good about playing.

ps. Bright Star Shine , your attitude and respect is much needed in the game maybey it might rub off on some of the "pros" and make the game better ,keep up the great advice and help, you are an asset to your guild and the game

cheers